Hi everyone,
I've had a 2 years old laptop Qosmio Toshiba, i7-3630qm, 12gb ram, gtx 670m, 1to partitioned hdd, Windows 8 64-bit.
It got through most latest games without much issues during these two years, I even ran the latest Shadow of Mordor with it at about medium settings with a decent 40-45 fps.
But I wanted to record some gaming sessions and while this is not the issue at hand, my hdd's not being able to read the game and write the video at the same time caused huge sync issues in the recorded files which led me thinking I needed a more powerful pc and preferably a desktop one. In which i will integrate ssd's at some point but its not my main concern at the moment.
Long story short, I got a desktop pc: i5-3570k, 12gb ram, gtx 650 1gb, 1to and 500gb hdds's, Windows 8 64-bit.
I should mention that the tower's casing is quite big has lot of empty space and a 3 fan cooling system.
While in the store i looked at the specs of that gtx 650 card (it was the most advanced gpu in the store, which led me to confusion) and for some reason it seemed to me that it was quite an upgrade over my laptop's gtx 670m's but it turn out that at same settings and same resolution the laptop actually manages to crank up a little more fps while interestingly, the desktop has a lower fps count (about 3-4 frames lower at medium settings) but it maintains it a much steadier pace.
Anyways, shadow of mordor's advance video settings shows in big the amount of dedicated memory to the gpu. The Laptop shows 3072mb gddr5 + 6086 mb ram system shared, while the Desktop shows 1024 mb gddr5 + 3072 mb ram system shared...
From what I understood so far, you cannot increase dedicated ram of a dedicated gpu, its hardware based, and system shared memory is a value defined by the os based on needs and available ram.
1) I do understand why that gtx 650 has less dedicated ram, it seems it was one of the cheapest option when it came out 2 years ago, so i'm no longer surprised, but i do not understand why even though the two pc's have the same available ram (12gbs), the lap top has dedicated twice as much ram to shared system memory. Is it because of the ram type, maybe some are not compatible to be shared? Also, would you say it is the difference in technology within the two cards that enables the laptop to perform better, or does the ram play a more important part in this case ?
Thats when i started to look into over clocking, thinking I could change the system shared ram and than slowly learn through overclock tweaks to solve my gtx 650's performance issues, but from what I understood, the main issue is that the card is not really suited for last generation games, even if overclocked, and even less to record in 1080p at the same time. Can anyone confirm that ?
If that is the case, I intend to upgrade the gpu, I want to do it myself but i don't have much experience with adding hardware except for ram which is quite simple.
Now I read somewhere during my research that it is possible to have a main gpu for normal usage and another one (the gtx 650 was used as an example as the secondary one) dedicated to some tasks (like processing physix'). Since I already have this gtx 650 i'm thinking why not try the same thing. But my first concern is, would it be hard to set up for someone who has no such experience? And what kind of compatibility concerns should I have, would all recent nvidia cards/dual nvidia cards setups work with this i5 cpu ? Also would i need additional cables or anything specific to know?
Finally, in the case that you would not recommend me to do a dual gpu set up or that the option is not available to me with my current rig. Which nvidia card could you recommend that would offer the most quality and performance and that would be compatible with the desktop's specs.
I've been looking into this and other issues related to it for days now, google searching, forum searching, but every problem I encounter hides another one behind it and my head got knocked out by all this new information. I would really appreciate the help. thanks.
I've had a 2 years old laptop Qosmio Toshiba, i7-3630qm, 12gb ram, gtx 670m, 1to partitioned hdd, Windows 8 64-bit.
It got through most latest games without much issues during these two years, I even ran the latest Shadow of Mordor with it at about medium settings with a decent 40-45 fps.
But I wanted to record some gaming sessions and while this is not the issue at hand, my hdd's not being able to read the game and write the video at the same time caused huge sync issues in the recorded files which led me thinking I needed a more powerful pc and preferably a desktop one. In which i will integrate ssd's at some point but its not my main concern at the moment.
Long story short, I got a desktop pc: i5-3570k, 12gb ram, gtx 650 1gb, 1to and 500gb hdds's, Windows 8 64-bit.
I should mention that the tower's casing is quite big has lot of empty space and a 3 fan cooling system.
While in the store i looked at the specs of that gtx 650 card (it was the most advanced gpu in the store, which led me to confusion) and for some reason it seemed to me that it was quite an upgrade over my laptop's gtx 670m's but it turn out that at same settings and same resolution the laptop actually manages to crank up a little more fps while interestingly, the desktop has a lower fps count (about 3-4 frames lower at medium settings) but it maintains it a much steadier pace.
Anyways, shadow of mordor's advance video settings shows in big the amount of dedicated memory to the gpu. The Laptop shows 3072mb gddr5 + 6086 mb ram system shared, while the Desktop shows 1024 mb gddr5 + 3072 mb ram system shared...
From what I understood so far, you cannot increase dedicated ram of a dedicated gpu, its hardware based, and system shared memory is a value defined by the os based on needs and available ram.
1) I do understand why that gtx 650 has less dedicated ram, it seems it was one of the cheapest option when it came out 2 years ago, so i'm no longer surprised, but i do not understand why even though the two pc's have the same available ram (12gbs), the lap top has dedicated twice as much ram to shared system memory. Is it because of the ram type, maybe some are not compatible to be shared? Also, would you say it is the difference in technology within the two cards that enables the laptop to perform better, or does the ram play a more important part in this case ?
Thats when i started to look into over clocking, thinking I could change the system shared ram and than slowly learn through overclock tweaks to solve my gtx 650's performance issues, but from what I understood, the main issue is that the card is not really suited for last generation games, even if overclocked, and even less to record in 1080p at the same time. Can anyone confirm that ?
If that is the case, I intend to upgrade the gpu, I want to do it myself but i don't have much experience with adding hardware except for ram which is quite simple.
Now I read somewhere during my research that it is possible to have a main gpu for normal usage and another one (the gtx 650 was used as an example as the secondary one) dedicated to some tasks (like processing physix'). Since I already have this gtx 650 i'm thinking why not try the same thing. But my first concern is, would it be hard to set up for someone who has no such experience? And what kind of compatibility concerns should I have, would all recent nvidia cards/dual nvidia cards setups work with this i5 cpu ? Also would i need additional cables or anything specific to know?
Finally, in the case that you would not recommend me to do a dual gpu set up or that the option is not available to me with my current rig. Which nvidia card could you recommend that would offer the most quality and performance and that would be compatible with the desktop's specs.
I've been looking into this and other issues related to it for days now, google searching, forum searching, but every problem I encounter hides another one behind it and my head got knocked out by all this new information. I would really appreciate the help. thanks.
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