Which is better in nvidia?

[sagarsharma10999]

Asus, MSI, ZOTAC OR gigabyte which one is better???

 

[n0ns3ns3]

its not about brands, it's about specific model and price.

 

[hellraiser06]

Nvidia GPU heirarchy: 1080ti>1080>1070ti?1070>1060>1050ti>1050>1030

By your username, I assume you are in India and for that I would go for Zotac since it carries 2+3 years warranty and is the only company that does that. It is also cheaper than the rest of the brands usually. Prices of PC hardware in India are expensive and for a graphics card, Zotac wins due to quality, reliability, warranty, and wait for it... availability.

Approximate prices of Zotac graphics cards in India:

1030 - ~5k
1050 - ~9k
1050ti - ~11k
1060 3GB mini - ~19k
1060 3GB amp - ~19k (This is not a typo. Both mini and amp are similarly priced on Amazon India, go figure)
1060 6GB mini - 23k
1060 6GB amp - ~25k
1070 - ~35 -40k
1070ti - Not yet available in India since its a new launch
1080 - ~ 50k
1080ti - ~63k

 

[faalin]

Ive owned Asus, MSI, Zotac, and EVGA. It really comes down to what model do you want (normal speed/factory OC) at what price point, what cooler comes on the card, and customer service.

When looking at those 3 points it always comes down to EVGA as the card that wins my vote. Ive dealt with their CS before on a video card and they were excelent, had to jump through some hoops for Asus. But still only use Asus ROG motherboards even with a little CS hassle.

 

[samer.forums]

MSI Gaming X series is one of the best.

Asus Strix OC comes next.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

^ MSI is the crappiest among manufacturers. it is the same quality as palit, but for the price of the top tier. which MSI never was and will never be.
It has no idea what QC is. The only good department in MSI is marketing. And it works since many (not so in the tech business) people consider their crap good.
first place would be EVGA and ASUS, then very close to them Gygabite and Zotac, and then the rest of the crap. MSI would be my last choice.

 

[jankerson]

EVGA all the way from my experience.

 

[samer.forums]

^ MSI is the crappiest among manufacturers. it is the same quality as palit, but for the price of the top tier. which MSI never was and will never be.
It has no idea what QC is. The only good department in MSI is marketing. And it works since many (not so in the tech business) people consider their crap good.
first place would be EVGA and ASUS, then very close to them Gygabite and Zotac, and then the rest of the crap. MSI would be my last choice.

proof ?

EVGA is among the highest rate of coil whine GPU in the market. every one knows that.

Asus Strix As well , MANY coil whine cards but lower rate than EVGA.

MSI GPU department is one of the best.

and the Gaming X in particular is a winner .. the lowest noise and the lowest coil whine in the market.

and you are mistaken about pricing. the Gaming X is expensive. and their Lightning cards are also top but are very expensive.

The NVIDIA Gaming X series allways got high reviews marks .

here :

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=MSI&editorschoice=1&pp=25&order=date

 

[jankerson]

Never heard coil whine out of an EVGA card.

My EVGA FTW2 GTX 1080 even at max use in benchmarking and OCed to the max is almost silent in my machine, I can barely hear it and even that it's just a quiet whooshing sound.

Quietest GPU I ever had by a long shot.

 

[samer.forums]

Never heard coil whine out of an EVGA card.

My EVGA FTW2 GTX 1080 even at max use in benchmarking and OCed to the max is almost silent in my machine, I can barely hear it and even that it's just a quiet whooshing sound.

Quietest GPU I ever had by a long shot.

I had Two GPU from EVGA with Coil whine ... and if you look enough in forums you will see how high is the rate of EVGA GPU with coil whine. we are talking about rate here not that every one who buys EVGA will get a coil whine GPU.

and the MSI gaming X more quiet than EVGA , and their cards run cooler.

 

[jankerson]

Never heard coil whine out of an EVGA card.

My EVGA FTW2 GTX 1080 even at max use in benchmarking and OCed to the max is almost silent in my machine, I can barely hear it and even that it's just a quiet whooshing sound.

Quietest GPU I ever had by a long shot.

I had Two GPU from EVGA with Coil whine ... and if you look enough in forums you will see how high is the rate of EVGA GPU with coil whine. we are talking about rate here not that every one who buys EVGA will get a coil whine GPU.

and the MSI gaming X more quiet than EVGA , and their cards run cooler.

Haven't seen mine get above 65C even maxxed out OC... And that's with the stock fan profile.

 

[samer.forums]

Never heard coil whine out of an EVGA card.

My EVGA FTW2 GTX 1080 even at max use in benchmarking and OCed to the max is almost silent in my machine, I can barely hear it and even that it's just a quiet whooshing sound.

Quietest GPU I ever had by a long shot.

I had Two GPU from EVGA with Coil whine ... and if you look enough in forums you will see how high is the rate of EVGA GPU with coil whine. we are talking about rate here not that every one who buys EVGA will get a coil whine GPU.

and the MSI gaming X more quiet than EVGA , and their cards run cooler.

Haven't seen mine get above 65C even maxxed out OC... And that's with the stock fan profile.

Good for you , I never said that EVGA is crap , I just said MSI Gaming X is better .

 

[n0ns3ns3]

proof ?

EVGA is among the highest rate of coil whine GPU in the market. every one knows that.

Asus Strix As well , MANY coil whine cards but lower rate than EVGA.

MSI GPU department is one of the best.

and the Gaming X in particular is a winner .. the lowest noise and the lowest coil whine in the market.

and you are mistaken about pricing. the Gaming X is expensive. and their Lightning cards are also top but are very expensive.

The NVIDIA Gaming X series allways got high reviews marks .

here :

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=MSI&editorschoice=1&pp=25&order=date

Lol ... funny thing is that EVGA is the only manufacturer that accepts RMA on coil whine. And it's not measured in Db or something. Just "if it's annoying, send it and we will send you new one".
there is also a step up program.
and let me see ... ooh .. removing cooler on EVGA card will not void your warranty ...
And any, EVGA SC or FTW is factory tested to be able to work on advertised clocks in harsh env.
good luck with MSI.
The Gaming X is no better than EVGA FTW (not to mention K|NGP|N variants) or top ASUS cards. though EVGA and Asus have decent QC beside engineering and MSI have marketing. So if you wish to pay for the dragon, go for it. Rational people prefer useful features. Like tons of additional thermal sensors all over the PCB on EVGA cards.
And MSI ... well, it was really fun to see JayzTwoCents with DOA 800$ MSI motherboard.
As for your link - 10 pascal cards from MSI on the same site while only 2 ASUS and 2 EVGA. That's what marketing BS is. they send x5 cards to review just to be in the headlines. but for some reason there is no Armor card (which has kinda bad cooler. especially for 1080 and 1080Ti). Anyway, to judge how good the card is engineered, look at sources like buildzoid (actually HW overclocking) or der8auer or any other non pop site. At least Gamers Nexus.
And where from your "coil whine" stat comes from ?

 

[samer.forums]

proof ?

EVGA is among the highest rate of coil whine GPU in the market. every one knows that.

Asus Strix As well , MANY coil whine cards but lower rate than EVGA.

MSI GPU department is one of the best.

and the Gaming X in particular is a winner .. the lowest noise and the lowest coil whine in the market.

and you are mistaken about pricing. the Gaming X is expensive. and their Lightning cards are also top but are very expensive.

The NVIDIA Gaming X series allways got high reviews marks .

here :

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=MSI&editorschoice=1&pp=25&order=date

Lol ... funny thing is that EVGA is the only manufacturer that accepts RMA on coil whine. And it's not measured in Db or something. Just "if it's annoying, send it and we will send you new one".
there is also a step up program.
and let me see ... ooh .. removing cooler on EVGA card will not void your warranty ...
And any, EVGA SC or FTW is factory tested to be able to work on advertised clocks in harsh env.
good luck with MSI.
The Gaming X is no better than EVGA FTW (not to mention K|NGP|N variants) or top ASUS cards. though EVGA and Asus have decent QC beside engineering and MSI have marketing. So if you wish to pay for the dragon, go for it. Rational people prefer useful features. Like tons of additional thermal sensors all over the PCB on EVGA cards.
And MSI ... well, it was really fun to see JayzTwoCents with DOA 800$ MSI motherboard.
As for your link - 10 pascal cards from MSI on the same site while only 2 ASUS and 2 EVGA. That's what marketing BS is. they send x5 cards to review just to be in the headlines. but for some reason there is no Armor card (which has kinda bad cooler. especially for 1080 and 1080Ti). Anyway, to judge how good the card is engineered, look at sources like buildzoid (actually HW overclocking) or der8auer or any other non pop site. At least Gamers Nexus.
And where from your "coil whine" stat comes from ?

I showed you proof from Reviews that MSI Gaming X gets high review marks , and allways more than EVGA of th same level if you research more. and I never mentioned the Armour when I recommended to him MSI. MSI Gaming X is a SUCCESS .

MSI is better than EVGA and reviews prove it , you do your home work.

and about the coil whine stats ? is from experience reading around forums in 20 years . does not need stats much. and most agree that MSI is among the lowest rate of coil whine. while EVGA is famous for having high rate coil whine.

and stop saying about a very good product CRAP ... this is not professional . I never said EVGA is CRAP for example , I just said Gaming X is a better choice.

The reviews never said they are crap as well , they gave all Gaming X EDITOR CHOICE and I gave you the link already.

if you want to insert motherboards in GPU discussion ? you are losing here .

as I said : MSI GPU DEPARTMENT.

I dont like MSI motherboards.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

I showed you proof from Reviews that MSI Gaming X gets high review marks , and allways more than EVGA of th same level if you research more.

MSI is better than EVGA and reviews prove it , you do your home work.

and about the coil whine stats ? is from experience reading around forums in 20 years . does not need stats much. and most agree that MSI is among the lowest rate of coil whine. while EVGA is famous for having high rate coil whine.

and stop saying about a very good product CRAP ... this is not professional . I never said EVGA is CRAP for example , I just said Gaming X is a better choice.

The reviews never said they are crap as well , they gave all Gaming X EDITOR CHOICE and I gave you the link already.

if you want to insert motherboards in GPU discussion ? you are losing here .

as I said : MSI GPU DEPARTMENT.

I dont like MSI motherboards.

"subjective feeling" coil whine rate - excellent professional point.

not so professional reviews of sponsored products - YAY, another excellent professional point. You can add HW reviews from Hardware Canucks with their pink fluffy unicorn awards and I'll laugh even more. Have any of those reviews analyze the real power capability of the card ? of course not - though kudos on opening the card and at least looking at the VRM arrangement.
so let's take 2 reviews from those so called "non paid pros" and look into their ratings:
EVGA - 9.4 https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1080_Ti_SC2/36.html
MSI Gaming X - 9.8 https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1080_Ti_Gaming_X/35.html
and let's analyze their results. MSI is the hottest beside FE and much cheaper Palit card. It has lower out of the box overclock, it lacks thermal sensors, it has 11% worse power efficiency than SC2. but it's MSI. they send a lot of cards, we want them happy so let's give them higher score.
By the way, their noise and thermal measurements are funny for the lack of the ambient temperature level. without it any noise and thermal measurement is pointless/useless info.
I guess it's enough arguments for now.

If you wish to answer, please avoid another scientific feeling.

P.S.
not trying to insult you in anyway even if it might sound like it. I'm not native EN.

 

[jankerson]

Some reviewers favor certain makes, that's obvious also so they do tend to be bias depending.

All depends on who is doing what and if they can remove their bias or not. Some are better than others at that. Also depends on who they are attached to company wise and or are getting paid to do positive reviews.

I do reviews and testing in another field so I know it can be hard sometimes so I just stick with the numbers personally no matter what it is.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

Some reviewers favor certain makes, that's obvious also so they do tend to be bias depending.

All depends on who is doing what and if they can remove their bias or not. Some are better than others at that. Also depends on who they are attached to company wise and or are getting paid to do positive reviews.

I do reviews and testing in another field so I know it can be hard sometimes so I just stick with the numbers personally no matter what it is.

Guess there is also a methodology question as well
even the most unbiased reviewer with non scientific methodology is not that good after all.

 

[jankerson]

Some reviewers favor certain makes, that's obvious also so they do tend to be bias depending.

All depends on who is doing what and if they can remove their bias or not. Some are better than others at that. Also depends on who they are attached to company wise and or are getting paid to do positive reviews.

I do reviews and testing in another field so I know it can be hard sometimes so I just stick with the numbers personally no matter what it is.

Guess there is also a methodology question as well
even the most unbiased reviewer with non scientific methodology is not that good after all.

Exactly correct.

I have seen so many cooked results in reviews of PC parts, most won't notice unless they know what to look for etc.

Why most should be taken with a grain of salt. 😉

I do my own testing once I get the parts in for the PC stuff.

 

[samer.forums]

I showed you proof from Reviews that MSI Gaming X gets high review marks , and allways more than EVGA of th same level if you research more.

MSI is better than EVGA and reviews prove it , you do your home work.

and about the coil whine stats ? is from experience reading around forums in 20 years . does not need stats much. and most agree that MSI is among the lowest rate of coil whine. while EVGA is famous for having high rate coil whine.

and stop saying about a very good product CRAP ... this is not professional . I never said EVGA is CRAP for example , I just said Gaming X is a better choice.

The reviews never said they are crap as well , they gave all Gaming X EDITOR CHOICE and I gave you the link already.

if you want to insert motherboards in GPU discussion ? you are losing here .

as I said : MSI GPU DEPARTMENT.

I dont like MSI motherboards.

"subjective feeling" coil whine rate - excellent professional point.

not so professional reviews of sponsored products - YAY, another excellent professional point. You can add HW reviews from Hardware Canucks with their pink fluffy unicorn awards and I'll laugh even more. Have any of those reviews analyze the real power capability of the card ? of course not - though kudos on opening the card and at least looking at the VRM arrangement.
so let's take 2 reviews from those so called "non paid pros" and look into their ratings:
EVGA - 9.4 https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1080_Ti_SC2/36.html
MSI Gaming X - 9.8 https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1080_Ti_Gaming_X/35.html
and let's analyze their results. MSI is the hottest beside FE and much cheaper Palit card. It has lower out of the box overclock, it lacks thermal sensors, it has 11% worse power efficiency than SC2. but it's MSI. they send a lot of cards, we want them happy so let's give them higher score.
By the way, their noise and thermal measurements are funny for the lack of the ambient temperature level. without it any noise and thermal measurement is pointless/useless info.
I guess it's enough arguments for now.

If you wish to answer, please avoid another scientific feeling.

P.S.
not trying to insult you in anyway even if it might sound like it. I'm not native EN.

stop making this thread long and crowded just because you want to say MSI is crap.

what ever you say , you called an editor choice Product "CRAP"

there is no excuse for that.

do you know what crap means ? or not ?

its not like you said EVGA is better ,no you wanted to destroy MSI all together.

have a nice day , this conversation turned from recommending a card into a flaming thread . and I wont continue this .

and finally , even Tomshardware gave it a recommendation

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-x-11g,5036-6.html

I dont think Tomshardware is biased right ? and I dont think Tomshardware gives a CRAPPY product a recommendation badge

I just gave the OP a good recommendation , and you popped in calling a Card series EVERY ONE ON THE INTERNET is giving it editor choice CRAP. the Gaming X card series is VERY POPULAR , in ALL SITES.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

stop making this thread long and crowded just because you want to say MSI is crap.

what ever you say , you called an editor choice Product "CRAP"

there is no excuse for that.

do you know what crap means ? or not ?

its not like you said EVGA is better ,no you wanted to destroy MSI all together.

have a nice day , this conversation turned from recommending a card into a flaming thread . and I wont continue this .

and finally , even Tomshardware gave it a recommendation

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-x-11g,5036-6.html

I dont think Tomshardware is biased right ? and I dont think Tomshardware gives a CRAPPY product a recommendation badge

I just gave the OP a good recommendation , and you popped in calling a Card series EVERY ONE ON THE INTERNET is giving it editor choice CRAP. the Gaming X card series is VERY POPULAR , in ALL SITES.

Man, I'm terribly sorry that I hurt your (parenting) feelings toward MSI.
in my dictionary - poor QC, overpriced products, lack of features and a lot of marketing BS = crap. you can pick any other word for that that meas - not really worth buying 😉

following your analogy, hyundai makes the best cars because they are popular and have awards - but in reality they make crappy cars.

 

[samer.forums]

stop making this thread long and crowded just because you want to say MSI is crap.

what ever you say , you called an editor choice Product "CRAP"

there is no excuse for that.

do you know what crap means ? or not ?

its not like you said EVGA is better ,no you wanted to destroy MSI all together.

have a nice day , this conversation turned from recommending a card into a flaming thread . and I wont continue this .

and finally , even Tomshardware gave it a recommendation

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-x-11g,5036-6.html

I dont think Tomshardware is biased right ? and I dont think Tomshardware gives a CRAPPY product a recommendation badge

I just gave the OP a good recommendation , and you popped in calling a Card series EVERY ONE ON THE INTERNET is giving it editor choice CRAP. the Gaming X card series is VERY POPULAR , in ALL SITES.

Man, I'm terribly sorry that I hurt your (parenting) feelings toward MSI.
in my dictionary - poor QC, overpriced products, lack of features and a lot of marketing BS = crap. you can pick any other word for that that meas - not really worth buying 😉

following your analogy, hyundai makes the best cars because they are popular and have awards - but in reality they make crappy cars.

MSI gaming X cards are Mercedes. Armour cards are not much I agree but the Gaming X are one of the best in the market.

have a nice day.

and btw I am not MSI fan , I never buy their motherboards had bad experience with them. but I never had bad experience with MSI Gaming/ Gaming X from the days of my GTX 780 ti. and I always recommended it to people I know and received thanks. being GTX 770 or 980 or w.e

and I know what I am talking about .

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gaming/29.html

anyways I am out

 

[n0ns3ns3]

MSI gaming X cards are Mercedes. Armour cards are not much I agree but the Gaming X are one of the best in the market.

have a nice day.

and btw I am not MSI fan , I never buy their motherboards had bad experience with them. but I never had bad experience with MSI Gaming/ Gaming X from the days of my GTX 780 ti. and I always recommended it to people I know and received thanks. being GTX 770 or 980 or w.e

and I know what I am talking about .

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gaming/29.html

anyways I am out

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on a serious note, in a vacuum Gaming X is not a bad card - it a very decent one. The problems with it are:
1. manufacturer = MSI
2. price.
pcpartpicker lists 1080Ti Gaming X for 767$
Similarly performing alternatives:
EVGA SC2 with their better warranty, better customer service, tons of sensors etc. is 749$
Zotac's AMP is 740$
So your mercedes analogy is correct. but only in pricing
on more serious note, all pascal cards will do the same performance wise. the real differences are the coolers, looks, warranty/service and price.
So I usually recommend to get the cheapest with a decent cooler that has a decent service in the country.
but for the manufacturers only -EVGA is undisputedly best simply because of strong engineering, best warranty/service and reasonable pricing. If gaming X was priced at 740$ - i'd have no problem with it beside the MSI part