Question Which motherboard would you prefer, and why ?

[adrifoxbg]

• ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 DARK HERO

or

• MSI MEG Z790 ACE MAX

 

[faalin]

For me, i read Asus and didnt even care what the other board was. I would take Asus every day and twice on sunday. I've been using Asus boards since 2009 without any issues ( ived had 2 failed boards, 1 was to much voltage overclocking, the other was a leaking water block so no fault of Asus) and all of them have overclocked amazingly. Later this year when i build a new system, be it intel or amd ill be going with an Asus board.

 

[logainofhades]

I would take neither to be honest, as both have done me wrong over the years. I tried to get support on an Asus laptop, and they were useless. I ended up figuring out what I needed, myself, and had a local shop fix the broken component that need replacing. You know it's bad when jayztwocents drops them as a sponsor. Wish he had done that prior to building the system of his, that I won. My Z270 strix ITX was a terrible board. Buggiest board I have had in years. A fellow mod had to deal with their CS, for a motherboard RMA, and they sent him back a board that had a cracked I/O shroud. Their boards are typically overpriced, especially on the lower end of the spectrum. Skimp on features compared to say Gigabyte, at a given price point.



MSI's customer support has literally lied to me before.

 

[adrifoxbg]

For me, i read Asus and didnt even care what the other board was. I would take Asus every day and twice on sunday. I've been using Asus boards since 2009 without any issues ( ived had 2 failed boards, 1 was to much voltage overclocking, the other was a leaking water block so no fault of Asus) and all of them have overclocked amazingly. Later this year when i build a new system, be it intel or amd ill be going with an Asus board.

I also use EK water cooling, and I have few concerns with that.
Thanks for the reply.

 

[adrifoxbg]

I would take neither to be honest, as both have done me wrong over the years. I tried to get support on an Asus laptop, and they were useless. I ended up figuring out what I needed, myself, and had a local shop fix the broken component that need replacing. You know it's bad when jayztwocents drops them as a sponsor. Wish he had done that prior to building the system of his, that I won. My Z270 strix ITX was a terrible board. Buggiest board I have had in years. A fellow mod had to deal with their CS, for a motherboard RMA, and they sent him back a board that had a cracked I/O shroud. Their boards are typically overpriced, especially on the lower end of the spectrum. Skimp on features compared to say Gigabyte, at a given price point.



MSI's customer support has literally lied to me before.

Big brands always have high prices
The idea is whether MSI is still an alternative

 

[Eximo]

Personally stopped buying super high end motherboards a few boards ago. They offer little benefit over lesser boards.

The last few times I saw motherboard performance roundups, ASUS tended towards the bottom anyway and their prices are generally higher. If I recall MSI (MAG), ASRock (Taichi and Steel Legend series), and Gigabyte (Aorus) are the higher recommended brands now. ASUS Prime boards are a decent price/feature option though. Nothing wrong with a ROG board (except that time they got the capacitor in backwards), just can't justify the expense any longer.

 

[faalin]

I also use EK water cooling, and I have few concerns with that.
Thanks for the reply.

My two oops were on an Asus rampage 3 extreme LGA 1366 motherboard. The first one was on full air and just pushed way to much voltage into the board killing it. I then rebought the board and installed from DangerDen a full motherboard block and cpu block, it lasted till around 2019 when one of the screws going into the motherboard block leaked killing the board. I then replaced it with a used one off ebay and its now running under full air as a make shift storage server.


Ive had 7 different Asus intel build and one AMD over the last 15 years. I have the current one in my sig at home, an AMD one at work, and a Asus laptop. Every single one is still running weather it be by me or given to a family member.


Im not saying ASUS hasnt done some bad stuff over the years, i just have never had a issue with any of the boards i have bought or had to deal with their customer service. If an when that day comes that i feel they have done me wrong i'll move on.

 

[JeffreyP55]

• ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 DARK HERO

or

• MSI MEG Z790 ACE MAX

Both Asus and Gigabyte have rubbed me the wrong way in the past. Never owned a MSI MB. Pick your poison.

 

[adrifoxbg]

My two oops were on an Asus rampage 3 extreme LGA 1366 motherboard. The first one was on full air and just pushed way to much voltage into the board killing it. I then rebought the board and installed from DangerDen a full motherboard block and cpu block, it lasted till around 2019 when one of the screws going into the motherboard block leaked killing the board. I then replaced it with a used one off ebay and its now running under full air as a make shift storage server.


Ive had 7 different Asus intel build and one AMD over the last 15 years. I have the current one in my sig at home, an AMD one at work, and a Asus laptop. Every single one is still running weather it be by me or given to a family member.


Im not saying ASUS hasnt done some bad stuff over the years, i just have never had a issue with any of the boards i have bought or had to deal with their customer service. If an when that day comes that i feel they have done me wrong i'll move on.

Both Asus and Gigabyte have rubbed me the wrong way in the past. Pick your poison.

At the moment I can't find anything on Gigabyte of this class in my country.
As a design YES, ASUS has no competition in my opinion
But it is not important that it looks good, but that it works well.

 

[Eximo]

My Rampage Formula III half died on me, but I think that was the result of too much memory voltage over many years.

I still have my Hero VI. It worked well enough, though the onboard audio picked up a lot of noise so I did end up installing a sound card. Hilariously an ASUS Xonar with third party drivers (never could get the 1st party drivers to work)

All of my Gigabyte and ASRock boards are still fully functional.

Just don't think there is any need to pay $300-400 for a board when a $200 one will work just the same.

 

[JeffreyP55]

At the moment I can't find anything on Gigabyte of this class in my country.
As a design YES, ASUS has no competition in my opinion
But it is not important that it looks good, but that it works well.

My current rig is a AMD 5950x and Asus a x570-Pro WiFi. Noting fancy but it works well.

 

[adrifoxbg]

My Rampage Formula III half died on me, but I think that was the result of too much memory voltage over many years.

I still have my Hero VI. It worked well enough, though the onboard audio picked up a lot of noise so I did end up installing a sound card. Hilariously an ASUS Xonar with third party drivers (never could get the 1st party drivers to work)

All of my Gigabyte and ASRock boards are still fully functional.

Just don't think there is any need to pay $300-400 for a board when a $200 one will work just the same.

I agree.
I don't dream of giving money without really thinking, but I wished I could at least give it to something really good
I had to return a DARK HERO board a few days ago to RMA due to poor quality, scratched battery and I bought a new product in principle and definition
That's why I want to bet on an official ASUS distributor to get this product with the required quality.
MSI is bigger form factor, more fan headers, more rgb headers, more phase power, but still looks lower end than ASUS
I also want to give a little money for all this, but apparently there is no way

 

[Eximo]

The only downside my current motherboard has is slightly poor fan control. But since I have overkill cooling solution, just put it in silent mode and it works quite well.

 

[logainofhades]

At the moment I can't find anything on Gigabyte of this class in my country.
As a design YES, ASUS has no competition in my opinion
But it is not important that it looks good, but that it works well.

Knowing where you are buying from would go a long way for people to make suggestions.

 

[artk2219]

• ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 DARK HERO

or

• MSI MEG Z790 ACE MAX

What is the price difference? That's all i care about these days as they all work more or less the same, just make sure whatever you get has the features you want. I've got some current beef with Asus since they refused to warranty a board i bought new from microcenter within their warranty period. The warranty was supposed to go by purchase date, not date of production, it failed 2 months after the production date hit 3 years, but one month before it had hit three years from date of purchase, they refused to warranty it. That said, if its cheap enough, i wouldn't care. Good companies can sometimes make bad products, and sometimes a company thats not known for good products can make something golden.

 

[thestryker]

All of the higher end Z790 boards are basically the same as far as quality so it's a matter of what you like the looks of or has specific IO you're looking for. The exception to this is the Asus Z790 Apex/Apex Encore and Gigabyte Tachyon X where they've both opted for dual DIMM configurations and done extremely good design for the memory topology.

My last three primary systems were Asus, MSI and now Gigabyte motherboards and all have worked fine. The MSI had some issues, but I opted to not RMA as it was nothing I cared about and I didn't want to deal with the RMA process. My last two server boxes were both Asus simply because of the value/features they offered. I did not go with Asus for my X99 systems because of reports about their boards overvolting without user input which toasted systems (this was even worse with BDW as they were more sensitive than HSW).

Long story short: any big manufacturers can has problems, but for the most part they're all pretty good. Pick something based on the features you're looking for, a company you're willing to trust and the aesthetics you like.

 

[adrifoxbg]

What is the price difference? That's all i care about these days as they all work more or less the same, just make sure whatever you get has the features you want. I've got some current beef with Asus since they refused to warranty a board i bought new from microcenter within their warranty period. The warranty was supposed to go by purchase date, not date of production, it failed 2 months after the production date hit 3 years, but one month before it had hit three years from date of purchase, they refused to warranty it. That said, if its cheap enough, i wouldn't care. Good companies can sometimes make bad products, and sometimes a company thats not known for good products can make something golden.

To be honest, MSI is cheaper
bigger board, more fan and rgb headers
more power phases
But I've never used that brand and I really can't make that choice without knowing the opponent's arguments
You are lucky to have a micro center
Everything there is sealed and branded
Everything comes to us unpacked
the motherboard I returned to RMA had the same problem, registered date March 16, start date 18 01
Scratched battery, bad USB ports, and what not
What does cheap enough mean?
Lower quality at a lower price?

 

[adrifoxbg]

All of the higher end Z790 boards are basically the same as far as quality so it's a matter of what you like the looks of or has specific IO you're looking for. The exception to this is the Asus Z790 Apex/Apex Encore and Gigabyte Tachyon X where they've both opted for dual DIMM configurations and done extremely good design for the memory topology.

My last three primary systems were Asus, MSI and now Gigabyte motherboards and all have worked fine. The MSI had some issues, but I opted to not RMA as it was nothing I cared about and I didn't want to deal with the RMA process. My last two server boxes were both Asus simply because of the value/features they offered. I did not go with Asus for my X99 systems because of reports about their boards overvolting without user input which toasted systems (this was even worse with BDW as they were more sensitive than HSW).

Long story short: any big manufacturers can has problems, but for the most part they're all pretty good. Pick something based on the features you're looking for, a company you're willing to trust and the aesthetics you like.

I have never used MSI
But I can't say, after a series of RMA procedures of AUS products, I am particularly happy

 

[adrifoxbg]

In my opinion, the country of manufacture matters for quality
My old HERO motherboard was made in Vietnam and has no complaints
But a few days ago I came across a model from China DARK HERO that shocked me.
I guess the people who have this board are mostly made in Vietnam