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> Do you know if it is possible to buy is as a refill?

Buy a refill, as in replace the liquid?

Can be done. Might want to seek advice from these folks
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/index.php

I enjoyed no luck poking a hole in the top and adding ink. I enjoyed
greater luck buying tanks with rubber plugs. Refillable tanks typicaly
cost $5.00 each.. but you can spend more or less. Like most people I
threw away the orange or green things that kept the cartridges from
leaking which are helpful in refilling where $5.00 refillable tanks or
even cheaper ones come with clips that prevent the ink from flowing out
while refilling.

The stuff I buy is from inksupply.com labled MIS . You can see it
compared to canon and inkgrabber on this site
http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/inktest.html
 
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> Where can I get the equivalent of MIS or INKGRABBER inks in the uk, to
> refill my Canon.

I don't know the UK market well. The MIS stuff is believed to be
"Image Specalists". While I can say the stuff sold by Media Street
(Plug-n-Play) and MIS looks so much like "Image Specalists", I have no
idea where in the UK one can buy this stuff.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=12198835
OCP I believe are UK based. Formulabs I don't know. There is a guy
here who plugs "Cartridge World" and claims that OCP and Formulabs
(sensient), but their stuff seems to be sold in retail shops/ hole in
the wall rather than on the websites. http://www.cartridgeworld.co.uk/
- no experence what so ever nor do I know if you can just buy bottles
from them.

http://www.cartridgemonkey.com offers bottles of ink for canons, but I
know jack squat about what they offer.

Lyson inks are not listed on this test... and they claim a wider color
gambit.... which translates to it don't look like canon according to
others. I have no direct experence with it, but it's another option
that should be in the UK.

www.mediastreet.com seems to ship internationaly but looks like they
ship via UPS which means usually brokage fees above and beyond vat and
duty typicaly doubling the price. Could be worth it if you can't find
another viable solution localy, but you might want to ask them if they
have a dealer of their product in your neighborhood before considering
this. The plug and play inks which are no different from what I buy
but cost more from them, and less from others who don't seem hip to
shipping beyond the US.
 
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Thanks Zakeuke

Where can I get the equivalent of MIS or INKGRABBER inks in the uk, to
refill my Canon.


Thanks

Mike
 
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In article Mikey says...
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>
>
The larger BCI3e-Bk is pigment.
 
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> *they will not tell you who the mfg/formulator is*

To which they are you refering? Cartridge World? How do you know?
IIRC your are not in the UK so you never would have gotten a chance to
actually see them. One can always ask for look at the machines they
are using for refills. I was told by someone they use "Formulalabs" or
"OCP".

If your talking Formulalabs, OCP, or Image Specalists they are
mfg/formulators as is media street except perhaps for their plug and
play inks.

It's no more a mystery than what Canon uses. Given that their
Chromalife100 has been rated by canon as 10 years on papers not pr-101
you can imagine that the life would be rated less with the regular
Chromalife... not exactly worth spending $3000/gal on is it?
 
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zakezuke wrote:
>>*they will not tell you who the mfg/formulator is*
>
>
> To which they are you refering? Cartridge World? How do you know?
> IIRC your are not in the UK so you never would have gotten a chance to
> actually see them. One can always ask for look at the machines they
> are using for refills. I was told by someone they use "Formulalabs" or
> "OCP".
>
> If your talking Formulalabs, OCP, or Image Specalists they are
> mfg/formulators as is media street except perhaps for their plug and
> play inks.
>
> It's no more a mystery than what Canon uses. Given that their
> Chromalife100 has been rated by canon as 10 years on papers not pr-101
> you can imagine that the life would be rated less with the regular
> Chromalife... not exactly worth spending $3000/gal on is it?
>
Our local idiot troll has been stuck in this one gear since his first
posting here.
His stupid warnings/rants about who makes the ink, etc, etc, ect, ad
nauseam, is actually totally useless information the end user has no
practical need for.
The only information about inks that is useful in this ng for other
prospective users is how the ink performs or performed in their printers.
All else is bullshit, worthless and immaterial. Only those of us who
have actually used inks other than oem can realistically and truthfully
testify to their quality of performance.
He has never used after market inks and therefore is not believable. His
remarks are full of outright lies and misinformation.
My advice is to kill file the dumb ass as most of us already have done.
Let him only talk to himself.
Frank
 
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ANYPLACE. ALL OF THE SHITTY AFTERMARKET INKS ARE THE SAME OR SIMILAR.
THEY ARE MADE BY A COUPLE OF NONAME COMPANIES AND THEN SOLD TO WHORES
WHO PUT THEIR OWN LABEL ON THEM AND REFUSE TO TELL YOU WHO THE
MFG/FO0RMULATOR IS. HAPPY CLOGGING.

Mikey wrote:

>Thanks Zakeuke
>
>Where can I get the equivalent of MIS or INKGRABBER inks in the uk, to
>refill my Canon.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
 
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> What does 'hole in wall' mean?

I thought your fish 'n chip places were holes in the wall. At least
that's now northern residence described them to me, rather than large
franchises with dedicated buildings constructed specificly by the
owners usually with a wacky navel theme. Something could be lost in
translation as i've also heard of hole in the wall ATM machines.

Strip malls... business centers where a single building rents out
multiable spaces to different people. I.e. not buying or building
your own complex. Difference between Hotel. (doors inside the
building) and Motels (doors outside the building parking by your door)
I.e. I don't know if Cartridge World has their own dedicated building
or rents out a small space in a larger complex.

E.g. I prefer getting my curry from a hole in the wall rather than a
sitdown resturant as holes in the wall are more likely to be owned and
operated by natives.
 
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> At Ecom recently, Cartridge World was officially recognised as the largest
> company of its kind and also the no 1 refilling company. So they definitely
> have their own buildings!

That wouldn't be all that difficult as refilling is a rather young
business.

I wouldn't say it's definate. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they do a
very good business just their website seems rather lacking sugesting
that their primary business is a tradtional service enviroment. I
don't know the amount of space they require for their retail
business... whether they could get away with something McDonnalds or
Starbucks sized or if each location needs a whole floor. The reason I
would think hole in the wall is because the ideal place for such a
business would be the bottom level of a large office building with a
large chunk of your customers within an elevator's ride away. But I
don't know as they don't have photographs of their business.
 
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SINCE YOU JERK YOURSELF OFF SO MUCH HOW LONG DO YOU TAKE TO CUM

zakezuke wrote:

>>*they will not tell you who the mfg/formulator is*
>>
>>
>
>To which they are you refering? Cartridge World? How do you know?
>IIRC your are not in the UK so you never would have gotten a chance to
>actually see them. One can always ask for look at the machines they
>are using for refills. I was told by someone they use "Formulalabs" or
>"OCP".
>
>If your talking Formulalabs,YES OCP, or Image Specalists they are
>mfg/formulators as is media street NO except perhaps for their plug and
>play inks.
>
>It's no more a mystery than what Canon uses. Given that their
>Chromalife100 has been rated by canon as 10 years on papers not pr-101
>you can imagine that the life would be rated less with the regular
>Chromalife... not exactly worth spending $3000/gal on is it?
>
>
>
 
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Frank wrote:

> zakezuke wrote:
>
>>> *they will not tell you who the mfg/formulator is*
>>
>>
>>
>> To which they are you refering? Cartridge World? How do you know?
>> IIRC your are not in the UK so you never would have gotten a chance to
>> actually see them. One can always ask for look at the machines they
>> are using for refills. I was told by someone they use "Formulalabs" or
>> "OCP".
>>
>> If your talking Formulalabs, OCP, or Image Specalists they are
>> mfg/formulators as is media street except perhaps for their plug and
>> play inks.
>>
>> It's no more a mystery than what Canon uses. Given that their
>> Chromalife100 has been rated by canon as 10 years on papers not pr-101
>> you can imagine that the life would be rated less with the regular
>> Chromalife... not exactly worth spending $3000/gal on is it?
>>
> Our local idiot troll has been stuck in this one gear since his first
> posting here.
> His stupid warnings/rants about who makes the ink, etc, etc, ect, ad
> nauseam, is actually totally useless information the end user has no
> practical need for.
> The only information about inks that is useful in this ng for other
> prospective users is how the ink performs or performed in their printers.
> All else is bullshit, worthless and immaterial. Only those of us who
> have actually used inks other than oem can realistically and
> truthfully testify to their quality of performance.
> He has never used after market inks and therefore is not believable.
> His remarks are full of outright lies and misinformation.
> My advice is to kill file the dumb ass as most of us already have done.
> Let him only talk to himself.
> Frank

Our local idiot troll Frankie Crankie has been stuck in this one gear
since his first posting here.
His stupid warnings/rants about who makes the ink, etc, etc, ect, ad
nauseam, is actually totally useful information the end user has a
practical need for.
The only information about inks that is useful in this ng for other
prospective users is who makes it.
All else is bullshit, worthless and immaterial. Only those of us who
have actually used inks other than oem cannot realistically and
truthfully testify to their quality of performance.
I never used after market inks and therefore am not believable. My
remarks are full of outright lies and misinformation.
My advice is to kill file the dumb ass as most of us already have done.
Let him only talk to himself.

YOURS TRULY FRANKIE CRANKIE BENDING OVER FOR YOU

I KNOW FRANKIE CRANKIE
 
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> so what is new?

What's new is this apears to be a franchise so someone like your self
can not complain that it's a mom&pop operation. It means to our
resident Standford grad that this is a legit business model. It's more
support oriented than bulk product oriented so users who have issues
can drag their printer to the shop and get a cleaning. They have
retail locations all over the UK and wouldn't shock me if they expend
to europe or the americas. This means that what you consider to be
clog juice will be sold at retail stores... so you better start
printing signs now if you want your crucade to continue. Might I
reccomend "The end is near - happy clogging".

As opposed to now where it's rare to see a service center authorized or
otherwise offer 3rd party solutions.
 
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At Ecom recently, Cartridge World was officially recognised as the largest
company of its kind and also the no 1 refilling company. So they definitely
have their own buildings!

--
Regards
Stick, Oxford, UK
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"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126680331.795497.268280@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> What does 'hole in wall' mean?
>
> I thought your fish 'n chip places were holes in the wall. At least
> that's now northern residence described them to me, rather than large
> franchises with dedicated buildings constructed specificly by the
> owners usually with a wacky navel theme. Something could be lost in
> translation as i've also heard of hole in the wall ATM machines.
>
> Strip malls... business centers where a single building rents out
> multiable spaces to different people. I.e. not buying or building
> your own complex. Difference between Hotel. (doors inside the
> building) and Motels (doors outside the building parking by your door)
> I.e. I don't know if Cartridge World has their own dedicated building
> or rents out a small space in a larger complex.
>
> E.g. I prefer getting my curry from a hole in the wall rather than a
> sitdown resturant as holes in the wall are more likely to be owned and
> operated by natives.
>
 
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In article <36YVe.806$5n4.458@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
> SINCE YOU JERK YOURSELF OFF SO MUCH HOW LONG DO YOU TAKE TO CUM
>
Wow, this guy is a real expert! Always informative, and always on topic!
 
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In article <1126768666.132691.310940@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
zakezuke_us@yahoo.com says...
> > ...remind him to take his meds as recommended.
>
> Don't you mean OEM meds? After all some of those generics might cause
> clogging.
>
>
Sorry. I am probably misinformed "cuz my doctor is in da bizness" and,
of course, my caps lock isn't stuck on.
 
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IS UR DOC A GYN

Irwin Peckinloomer wrote:

>In article <1126768666.132691.310940@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
>zakezuke_us@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>>>...remind him to take his meds as recommended.
>>>
>>>
>>Don't you mean OEM meds? After all some of those generics might cause
>>clogging.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Sorry. I am probably misinformed "cuz my doctor is in da bizness" and,
>of course, my caps lock isn't stuck on.
>
>
 
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