[SOLVED] Which of these two is the strongest?

[TheDeadlyFeet]

I’m trying to find out if my PC is better than my friend’s PC (just wanna know)

Which of these PCs are the best in in-game performance?

I gonna buy these components soon anyway: CPU: Ryzen 9 3900x, Asus ROG Strix LC 360, Asus ROG Strix X570-F


My PC:
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Max
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X470-F
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (4x8 GB) 3600MHz
Storage: Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB
Storage 2 (Games): Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB
GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX 1070 Ti Advanced
Case: Phanteks Evolv X Mid Tower
PSU: Corsair RM750x


My Friend’s PC:
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100i RGB Platinum
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-F
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 16 GB (2x8) 3000 MHz
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD
GPU: Asus Geforce RTX 2070 Dual 8 GB OC
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 Mid Tower
PSU: Corsair RM650x

 

[Barty1884]

Why not benchmark & compare them directly? You'll know definitively then, in any given game.

For strictly gaming, I'd expect the 2700 + 2070 to outperform a 2700X +1070TI by about 10%FPS.

CPU's are similar, and the 2700 should boost to almost match the 2700X given it has the better cooling.
The 2070 is a stronger GPU vs a 1070TI, but not by huge margins (depending on the title).

For gaming, your additional 16GB RAM isn't likely to be called into play and honestly, I'm quite surprised 3600MHz is stable in a 4x8 config on 2nd Gen.

 

[saltyasian]

’m trying to find out if my PC is better than my friend’s PC (just wanna know)

Which of these PCs are the best in in-game performance?




My PC:
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x
CPU Cooler: NZXT X62
Motherboard: Gigabyte x570 AORUS pro
Memory: G.skill Trident Z Neo DDR4 16GB 3200mhz cl 16
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 512 GB
GPU: Gigabyte 5700 XT Gaming OC 8GB
Case: NZXT H510
PSU: Corsair RM750x


My Friend’s PC:
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100i RGB Platinum
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X470-F
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 16 GB (2x8) 3000 MHz
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD
GPU: Asus Geforce RTX 2070 Dual 8 GB OC
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 Mid Tower
PSU: Corsair RM650x


My 2nd Friend's PC:
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Max
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X470-F
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (4x8 GB) 3600MHz
Storage: Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB
Storage 2 (Games): Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB
GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX 1070 Ti Advanced
Case: Phanteks Evolv X Mid Tower
PSU: Corsair RM750x

 

[saltyasian]

Why not benchmark & compare them directly? You'll know definitively then, in any given game.

For strictly gaming, I'd expect the 2700 + 2070 to outperform a 2700X +1070TI by about 10%FPS.

CPU's are similar, and the 2700 should boost to almost match the 2700X given it has the better cooling.
The 2070 is a stronger GPU vs a 1070TI, but not by huge margins (depending on the title).

For gaming, your additional 16GB RAM isn't likely to be called into play and honestly, I'm quite surprised 3600MHz is stable in a 4x8 config on 2nd Gen.

His friend always lie or does something wrong, that's why i don't trust him and TheDeadlyFeet doesn't either.

 

[Barty1884]

Is the "friend" local to you two? If so, why not be physically in the same spot and then you can verify what they're doing?

 

[logainofhades]

Gaming wise, the friend's pc is better, but not by a super huge margin. The 2070 is about even with a 1080. If you are looking to improve gaming performance, a GPU would do more for you, than that CPU upgrade.

 

[saltyasian]

Gaming wise, the friend's pc is better, but not by a super huge margin. The 2070 is about even with a 1080. If you are looking to improve gaming performance, a GPU would do more for you, than that CPU upgrade.

I mean like, TheDeadlyFeet can buy a used 1080TI for 600$ or buy a new 5700XT that would hold for 3-4 years tho

 

[saltyasian]

Is the "friend" local to you two? If so, why not be physically in the same spot and then you can verify what they're doing?

He lives on the road i take to school so yeah, he also messed his pc real hard. The GPU shuts down at random times and stuff like that, it won't be a good benchmark. Thats the problem with that friend, he doesn't want to refund the GPU and get a brand new one. He says he can't wait a week, now the problem has stopped for a while but it will come back.

mod edit language.

 

[Barty1884]

He lives on the road i take to school so yeah, he also messed his pc real hard. The GPU shuts down at random times and stuff like that, it won't be a good benchmark.

Well then.... I guess the question is, why does it matter?
Could be running a 2080TI and 9900K, but if it randomly shuts down on them, the theoretical performance doesn't matter, does it?

Surely even something like an i5-2500K + GTX 770 (random example) is "better" than any system that can't reliably game?

 

[TheDeadlyFeet]

His friend always lie or does something wrong, that's why i don't trust him and TheDeadlyFeet doesn't either.

That's true...

For some reason he just normally says "Actually my PC is better than yours, because I have a better GPU than you". I know that RTX 2070 is better than GTX 1070 Ti, but that's just like max 10% with 2700 or so.

Besides, what I think is that mine is better for in-game performance and system.

Since I oc'ed my CPU from 3.7GHz to 4.0GHz in Base clock, I have 32 GB RAM and oc'ed it to 3200MHz (it's 3600MHz, but I can't go further than 3200MHz on 2nd gen, 3rd gen can go over 3600MHz). And at last as for the two ssds which is very good.

I don't say that these things like RAM, SSD, etc. means that mine is better, but I "assume" that mine is better.

I gonna talk to my friend and we shall benchmark our PCs and just get over with it.

 

[Rogue Leader]

@saltyasian @TheDeadlyFeet STOP spamming the forum with your dispute. I merged your new thread in here. Keep it to one topic or you'll all be banned.

 

[Barty1884]

That's true...

For some reason he just normally says "Actually my PC is better than yours, because I have a better GPU than you". I know that RTX 2070 is better than GTX 1070 Ti, but that's just like max 10% with 2700 or so.

Besides, what I think is that mine is better for in-game performance and system.

For strictly gaming, he's not wrong.

Since I oc'ed my CPU from 3.7GHz to 4.0GHz in Base clock, I have 32 GB RAM and oc'ed it to 3200MHz (it's 3600MHz, but I can't go further than 3200MHz on 2nd gen, 3rd gen can go over 3600MHz). And at last as for the two ssds which is very good.

I don't say that these things like RAM, SSD, etc. means that mine is better, but I "assume" that mine is better.

With a better cooler, a 2700 should be auto OC'ing itself to around 4GHz anyway. RyzenMAster can be used to verify.

16GB of RAM isn't going to do anything for you in the vast majority of games. Since your kit is 3600MHz rated, it's timings are likely looser than your friends 3000MHz kit. Ryzen likes a balance of speed & timings. 3600MHz @ CL18 (for example) may be capable of 3200MHz @ CL16..... but if your friends kit is 3000MHz @ CL15, it's probably a wash.

Two SSDs aren't doing anything for you in-game. There may be a minute difference in initial load times between a 970Pro and an 860Evo, but nothing that I'd hang my hat on as "better".