Which one is better for gaming?

[Apheli0n1999]

What's better, 2 different systems:
1) GTX 1060 3gb With 8 GB ddr4 ram
2) GTX 1050Ti 4gb With 16 GB ddr4 ram

Which one of the 2 is better for gaming?

 

[androbourne]

Really can't say much without your full system specs. How can we tell you what is going to bottleneck your system or give you best performance based on your system age etc....

Please provide full system specs.

 

[Apheli0n1999]

Really can't say much without your full system specs. How can we tell you what is going to bottleneck your system or give you best performance based on your system age etc....

Please provide full system specs.

oh ok,
1) 1920x1080 screen res
i7-6700hq 4 cores (2,6 Ghz - Max: 3,5 Ghz)
8gb ddr4 ram
1TB HDD 7200rpm
128 gb SSD
GTX 1060 3gb

2) 1920x1080 screen res
i7-7700hq 4 cores (2,8 Ghz - 3,8 Ghz)
16gb ddr4 ram
1TB hdd 7200rpm
275 gb SSD
GTX 1050Ti 4gb

these are 2 different systems which one would do better.
hope this is enough information.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

While nVidia rules the roost from the 1060 on up, I would consider a RX 570 over the 1050 Ti. As for the given choice, which is better will depend on the situation, mainly the game in question.... tho in most cases the 1060 will be the better choice. Id suggest a 3rd option and save the $44 necessary and get the 2 x 8GB and 1060.

 

[androbourne]

You would be better off with option#2. That increased CPU would be a better combo for gaming.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

for me it would be option 2. Even though the GPU is lesser (than the 1060 in the first build) the better CPU, more ram, and a comparable GPU, and given the res is 1080p. Defo no 2 imho.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

looking at the revised specs, if you look at the benchmarks, the performance between the 7700 and 6700 is miniscule and the mobile versions show similar differentials

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1826?vs=1543

OTOH, the difference in performance between the GFX card is enormous with the 1060 finishing in 32nd place and the 1050 Ti in 55th

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.13849.0.html

Dirt 4 High settings 90.2 fps on 1060 / 74.2 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 22% faster)
BF 1 High settings 77.4 fps on 1060 / 56.7 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 37% faster)
Doom High settings 97.0 fps on 1060 / 66.4 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 46% faster)
Rise of the Tomb raider High settings 71.2 fps on 1060 / 45.8 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 55% faster)
Witcher 3 High settings 67.6 fps on 1060 / 46.7 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 46% faster)

Now let's look again at the CPUs. Clearly the ranking alone dispels the myth that the CPUs generation has a significant effect on gaming with the two CPUs placing much closer at 49th and 70th respectively,

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html

Intel 7700HQ has a performance rating of 82.2
Intel 6700HQ has a performance rating of 75.5

Making the 7700HQ only 8.8% faster than the 6700HQ ... clearly no where near enough to make up for the up to 55% difference provided by the GFX cards.

However, there really isn't a reason to actially choose... you can have a laptop built exactly to your specifications. ... why not consider both by having the laptop built with 7700HQ, 1060 and 16GB of RAM ?

What's your budget range ?

 

[Apheli0n1999]

looking at the revised specs, if you look at the benchmarks, the performance between the 7700 and 6700 is miniscule and the mobile versions show similar differentials

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1826?vs=1543

OTOH, the difference in performance between the GFX card is enormous with the 1060 finishing in 32nd place and the 1050 Ti in 55th

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.13849.0.html

Dirt 4 High settings 90.2 fps on 1060 / 74.2 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 22% faster)
BF 1 High settings 77.4 fps on 1060 / 56.7 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 37% faster)
Doom High settings 97.0 fps on 1060 / 66.4 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 46% faster)
Rise of the Tomb raider High settings 71.2 fps on 1060 / 45.8 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 55% faster)
Witcher 3 High settings 67.6 fps on 1060 / 46.7 on 1050 Ti (1060 is 46% faster)

Now let's look again at the CPUs. Clearly the ranking alone dispels the myth that the CPUs generation has a significant effect on gaming with the two CPUs placing much closer at 49th and 70th respectively,

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html

Intel 7700HQ has a performance rating of 82.2
Intel 6700HQ has a performance rating of 75.5

Making the 7700HQ only 8.8% faster than the 6700HQ ... clearly no where near enough to make up for the up to 55% difference provided by the GFX cards.

However, there really isn't a reason to actially choose... you can have a laptop built exactly to your specifications. ... why not consider both by having the laptop built with 7700HQ, 1060 and 16GB of RAM ?

What's your budget range ?

Thanks for all the info.

1300 is my max

Do you recommend any websites to order if I am going for a 7700hq, 16gb ram and 1060 card?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

No problem. Call "Larry the Laptop Guy" ... we have been having all our laptops custom by Clevo distributors for a dozen years. The last 9 or 10 have been thru Larry.

https://lpc-digital.com/product/sager-np7870-clevo-n870hp6/

17.3” Full HD (1920 x 1080) Clear IPS Wide View Angle 72% NTSC Matte
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ (6M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz)
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1060 GPU with 6GB GDDR5 Video Memory
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 PC4 2400MHz (PC4 19200) Memory (2 x 8GB)
Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled, (without Recovery Media)
Samsung® 850 EVO™ M.2 250GB SSD - (OS DRIVE)
1 TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
Intel® Dual Band Ultra Wireless - AC 8265 M.2 + Bluetooth 4.2 Combo
Full Range AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, 180W AC autoswitch Adapter
Removable 6 cells Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 62WH
LIFETIME Limited Labor and 1 Year Premium** Parts Warranty
FREE UPS Ground (CONUS Only)
Cash Price: $1,327.93

Notes:

1. Clevo does not allow their distributors to sell below a certain "price floor" ... you can however "negotiate" whatever discount you can agree on. These are "price dependent", the more yoou spend, the bigger discount you can negotiate. I'm sure you can get below the $1300 budget limit.

2. Credit Card companies charge the seller about 3% ... so you can save 3% by paying
"cash" which is defined as "Online Bank payments, Bank Wire Transfers, Bill Pay, Sure Pay, Checks & Money Orders. I pay by business check ... you can also make a deposit at any Wells Fargo Bank. personal checks work also but they have to clear first (unless drawn on Wells Fargo bank account). More here:

https://lpc-digital.com/faq/

3. A 15" model would be about $40 cheaper.

4. You could save $45 by skipping the 5400 rpm hard drive and getting a 7200 rpm SSHD.

$79 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178995
$99 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178996
Extra savings w/ promo code EMCRJRJ29, ends 8/10

The net increase in cost will be $55 and I expect the total cost after discount with the 2 TB SSHD will be between $1300 and 41325 ... Opt for the WD SSD instead of the Samsung Evo and I think you can get to $1300-$1305.

Remember the SSD only helps ya with stuff on the SSD and most of your gaming library will not be there. The SSHD will increase gaming loads speed to at least twice as fast as the 5400 rpm drive

If the next concern is ... "I never heard of Clevo", well you never heard of who actually made just about every laptop you ever did hear of. The vast majority of laptops on the market are manufactured by a small handful of Taiwan-based Original Design Manufacturers (ODM), although their production bases are located mostly in mainland China. Major relationships include:

Quanta sells to (among others) HP, Lenovo, Apple, Acer, Toshiba, Dell, Sony, Fujitsu and NEC
Compal sells to (among others) Acer, Dell, Toshiba, Lenovo and HP/Compaq
Wistron (former manufacturing & design division of Acer) sells to Dell, Acer, Lenovo and HP
Inventec sells to Toshiba, HP, Dell and Lenovo
Pegatron sells to Asus, Toshiba, Apple, Dell and Acer
Foxconn sells to Asus, Dell, HP and Apple
Flextronics (former Arima Computer Corporation notebook division) sells to HP
Clevo is best known and the manufacturer of Alienware laptops, before Dell purchased the company but sells to numerous boutique laptop providers

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-guide-v2-0-faq-and-reseller-info.91510/

CLEVO is a large Taiwanese computer company specializing in laptops. While the Clevo brand name is perhaps not widely known, their products are re-branded and sold by known boutique brand OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers)… notably Sager, VoodooPC, [WidowPC], Falcon Northwest, Eurocom, etc. They are also considered (by whoever knows about notebooks) to design and manufacturer the best of the best notebooks in terms of superior build quality and innovative designs.