Question Which one should i go for AMD RYZEN 5 3600 OR Intel Core i5-10400F?

[Zuber Khan12]

Hello Community,
Hope you are all well.
I need your suggestions, and views on this issue, i was having eyes on these 2 processors from long time but because of budget i waited. Now things seems in my favour and i am getting
AMD RYZEN 5 3600 - 122.99 $ or 9999 INR.
and
Intel Core i5 -10400F - 114.38 $ or 9299 INR.

Now both are in my budget range,

I need to know which one will be better for gaming? Which one should I go for.
Also suggest me decent MOBO for both, not looking for overclocking or anything. (I already have other parts of PC).

Both are good CPU, and almost equal in performance, i usually upgrade my PC in every 5 6 years. I am causal gamer just play to enjoy my free time.

Currently i am using AMD FX 8350 which is now 10years old and still working well. 16gb DDR3 ram, 1070 8gb card.

 

[Why_Me]

10400 / 10400F + B560 + DDR4 3200

Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

Intel's new Core i5-10400F offers a large performance jump over the previous generation Core i5-9400F because of its six-core/twelve-thread design. In this Core i5-10400F review we also test the feasibility of overclocking through BCLK, or by relaxing the PL1 and PL2 Turbo Limits.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[DavidM012]

Of only those two the 3600 is better since you'd have an upgrade path to a 5000 series cpu and I think it has an edge over the 10400f - vs on technical city seems far and away better to me.

The 10400f is lga 1200 so could go to an 11th gen later but 11th gen was a bit ignored I think.

So am4 mobo well probably any is ok for it actually you can run a 5000 series even on an a320 am4 mobo which is pretty basic so whatever you find fits your budget and available or what you like micro atx or full atx. If you change your mind and decide to go for a 5000 series cpu though you'd have a bit of hassle finding a board that supports flashback in order to update the bios.

you could get b450, b550, x370 or x570 chipsets for the zen range of cpus. You decide: Things to look out for in mobo reviews is poor sound quality. Always read the review of a product before you buy it.

I'd worry more about a good quality power supply -psu tier list depends on your GPU i've seen some people get away with an evga gq 650w gold (tier c) with an nvidia rtx 3060 but wouldn't recommend it, maybe stick to tier b if you aren't going for a monstrous GPU. Corsair tx550m looks pretty reasonable these days, the tx650m is also better priced than it used to be, at least in my region, or corsair HX.

whilst if you buy cheap 3200mhz dimms that's ok for a 3600 but if later upgrade to zen 3 5000 series cpu, zen 3 prefers 3600mhz memory.

so you just have to search your parts and hopefully cross reference with the power supply tier list and mobo site memory support list to choose memory. G.Skill trident z or trident z neo or ripjaws v are meant for ryzen, trident z neo is specifically for x570 mobos but also works on all other boards too. You can use the g,skill configurator to help search your memory.

So I imagine you're using your 1070 for now? If it goes out any time soon just be prepared with a decent power supply to facilitate a gpu upgrade.

Might also want to consider an aftermarket cooler think the standard cooler is generally ok for ryzen but my preference is always to overkill a bit. Well if you can run cooler at a reasonable price, $40 or something, why not? Could get a thermalright peerless assassin or vetroo 5 or deepcool gammamax.

 

[Zuber Khan12]

Thanks @Why_Me and @DavidM012 for you replies
It feels like tie 50/50. I feel like Ryzen 5 3600 looks better deal.

 

[geofelt]

Are you buying new or used?
If buying new, try to buy a current gen product.
Your FX-8350 has 8 processing threads and a passmark rating of 5956.
That is when all 8 are fully used.
The single thread rating is 1574.
Abysmal by today's standards.
Single thread performance is what most games need most.
That is probably true for normal desktop work also.
The R5-3600 has 12 threads and a passmark rating of 17850/2581.
The I5-10400F also has 12 threads and a passmark rating of 12357/2593
Essentially the same performance unless you run multithreaded batch apps that can fully load all cores. Either would be a nice boost.
But for your use, look at the I3-12100F. It costs $108 in the us.
8 threads and a rating of 14540/3550.
Better yet if you can find one(newly released) is the i3-13100F ($125)
Also with 8 threads and a rating of 15611/3767.

Most any LGA1700 motherboard will do.
You will need new ram for any modern upgrade.
DDR4 will be cheaper and equally as fast as DDR5.

I might add tor desktop quickness, you want a ssd for windows. I would do that first if you have not yet done so,

 

[Zuber Khan12]

Are you buying new or used?
If buying new, try to buy a current gen product.
Your FX-8350 has 8 processing threads and a passmark rating of 5956.
That is when all 8 are fully used.
The single thread rating is 1574.
Abysmal by today's standards.
Single thread performance is what most games need most.
That is probably true for normal desktop work also.
The R5-3600 has 12 threads and a passmark rating of 17850/2581.
The I5-10400F also has 12 threads and a passmark rating of 12357/2593
Essentially the same performance unless you run multithreaded batch apps that can fully load all cores. Either would be a nice boost.
But for your use, look at the I3-12100F. It costs $108 in the us.
8 threads and a rating of 14540/3550.
Better yet if you can find one(newly released) is the i3-13100F ($125)
Also with 8 threads and a rating of 15611/3767.

Most any LGA1700 motherboard will do.
You will need new ram for any modern upgrade.
DDR4 will be cheaper and equally as fast as DDR5.

I might add tor desktop quickness, you want a ssd for windows. I would do that first if you have not yet done so,

I am planning to purchase new CPU and MOBO and ram, since i am tight on budget.
And i have just looked at I3-12100F, and 13100F, how can I3-12100F having 4 core are going toe to toe with Ryzen 5 3600 in all games?? and 13100F is not available here.
And what this passing mark??

 

[geofelt]

I am planning to purchase new CPU and MOBO and ram, since i am tight on budget.
And i have just looked at I3-12100F, and 13100F, Holy Fu** how can I3-12100F having 4 core are going toe to toe with Ryzen 5 3600 in all games?? and 13100F is not available here.
And what this passing mark??

Actually your FX-8350 has only 4 cores, but each core is capable of running two threads.

The same is true of the I3-12100F. the 4 cores have hyperthreading which gives two processing threads per core.

The F suffix processors only indicates the presence of integrated graphics.

As to gaming performance, most games will not make effective use of more than 8 processing threads.
Multiplayer may be an exception.
The reason that the 12100 does so well is that it's performance per thread is better. 3550 vs. 2581.
Passmark is an organization that has a standard set of benchmarks that a user can run and report the results. It is one reasonable way to compare processors.

Try running the cpu-Z bench test on your 8350.
You should get a single thread result like 224:
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/6h7157
The 12100 will be 659.
R5-3600 will be 488
I5-10400 will be 456.

 

[Zuber Khan12]

Actually your FX-8350 has only 4 cores, but each core is capable of running two threads.

The same is true of the I3-12100F. the 4 cores have hyperthreading which gives two processing threads per core.

The F suffix processors only indicates the presence of integrated graphics.

As to gaming performance, most games will not make effective use of more than 8 processing threads.
Multiplayer may be an exception.
The reason that the 12100 does so well is that it's performance per thread is better. 3550 vs. 2581.
Passmark is an organization that has a standard set of benchmarks that a user can run and report the results. It is one reasonable way to compare processors.

Try running the cpu-Z bench test on your 8350.
You should get a single thread result like 224:
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/6h7157
The 12100 will be 659.
R5-3600 will be 488
I5-10400 will be 456.

" Actually your FX-8350 has only 4 cores, but each core is capable of running two threads. "
I learned new thing after 10 year about my FX-8350 damnnn..... I thought its 8core .

Thanks for your response, I really learned something new from your reply

 

[DavidM012]

Actually the fx 8350 is 8 core 8 thread - is it true the fx 8350 has only 4 cores? it shares 4 fpu modules between 8 cores but no matter it's obsolete anyway.

Well perplexing is how I see it, can still run all my games at 1080p but not at the highest settings. Just now is the time when it's really hitting the wall of new games min. requirements exceeding it.

12th gen does look pretty good then you'd have to go all the way up to a 5900x to match a 12100 single threaded so it does beat out ryzen on the value front

So you'd only go bigger CPU if multithreaded was important to you - maybe compression/zips / video editing or some other 3d apps.

I've looked at cpu-z benches a lot dunno somehow it didn't twig with the 12100f. I thought it was a budget cpu and I read reviews of the b660 1700 boards but they looked a bit ropey for cpus like the 12900 etc. that people were chasing at the time.

But yes I suppose you can dial it back a bit to a 12100f although games will be getting more multithreaded, and anyway still read any mobo review to check it doesn't have poor quality audio or something.

Well I got my cpu mobo and ram way back in 2015 for £200 and I was going boggle eyed looking at reviews and prices thinking I wouldn't get anything bargain like that again but 12100 roundly beats the fx anyway.

Anyway I'll eat my perfectly preserved humble pie that I got in fallout 4, finally!

 

[Nighthawk117]

I learned new thing after 10 year about my FX-8350 damnnn..... I thought its 8core .

It's made up of 4 modules each containing 2 cores, giving you a total of 8. However within each module some resources are shared between the 2 cores where they aren't in a true 8 core CPU such as a Ryzen 7.

In terms of the CPU choice, the i5 10400 would be my preferred CPU, it's the more consistent performer in games. However the platform for the 3600 is better as on a B550 you get PCI-E 4.0 for example. The upgrade options are also better on the AMD side, this might not be relevant though if you don't intend to upgrade for several years. By which point you would be better off with a new platform. Both are vast improvements over your FX8350.

 

[DavidM012]

a lot of folks have already just gone to the 5800x3d for gaming and done with Zen 3, though it runs hot with that 3d vcache, it's been on sale lately. 14th/15th gen we'll be talking about soon probly, and more am5/ddr 5.