Which one should my friend buy?

It's not "junk", this guy has no clue what he's talking about. It's great at certain things and beats the i7 at some tasks like the aforementioned video editing, rendering, etc. as long as it's multi-core optimized.

My recommendation still stands: if he's primarily gaming, get the i7/780. If he's primarily editing, rendering or any other Photoshop/After Effects type work go with the 9590(or better yet the 8350 as it's the same chip and overclock)/280X
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the amd build, get a 8320 or 8350. The 9000 series isn't that much better but adds a lot more cons. Also board wise, don't need a crosshair, just get an asus 99 pro board for like $140. With money saved there, buy an ssd. And still have money left over.

That said, the intel build is like 10x performance that the amd build is, so no question get the intel build.
 


I haven't read a single good thing about the 9590 anywhere. It is essentially a factory overclocked 8350. The only good thing I can say about it is if you live in a cold climate, it can double as a room heater.

I certainly do know what I'm talking about. I've been building computers since the Slot 1 days, I crawl the internet reading reviews daily. I've never owned a 9590 so I don't have personal experience with it, but that may actually prove I do know what I'm talking about.

I'm not an AMD basher or an Intel fanboy. I just happen to know that the 9590 isn't worth the money or the hassle.
 
Dude...it doesn't run any hotter than a Haswell i7, please do some research before you let loose that fanboy speak. I don't doubt you've been building computers for a long time, but that doesn't say a thing about your actual information on the hardware at hand.

The 9590 has beaten the more powerful 4960X in a number of game benchmarks, encoding benchmarks, and rendering benchmarks. It runs JUST AS HOT as the 4960X, but does draw more power so I guess that's where you get confused.

Please, just look stuff up before you let your preconceived opinions and thinly-veiled Intel hardon get the best of you.
 
I have two AMD systems in my house, 5 systems total. Had 3 AMD systems, but my son just upgraded to an Intel system. I've built everyone of them.

You find one favorable review of the 9590.

I'm an electronics engineer by the way, more power equals more heat. Haswell and Ivy Bridge are hot because they've integrated the voltage regulation circuitry. It's not because they have sky high core clocks and poor IPC like AMD's current processors. The other issue is the paste that's replaced the solder used to attach the heatspreader to the die. Actually from what I understand it's not so much the TIM that was used or the fact that it wasn't solder used, but the adhesive that is used to hold the IHS to the substrate. It holds the heatspreader too far away from the die leaving a large gap for the TIM to transfer the heat through. This is why de-lidding seems to work so well. The adhesive is cleaned off and it allows the heatspreader to sit closer to the die.

AMD is where Intel was with Netburst. Because their CPU's are terribly inefficient, they have to run their clocks to 5GHz and are still slower core for core than Intel. It was the other way around when Intel was on the Netbust train and the Athlon 64 was kicking it's a$$.
 

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