[SOLVED] Which part to upgrade first, (mobo + GPU) or (CPU)?

[MLMDota]

Approximate Purchase Date: ideally within 3 weeks but I'm keeping an eye on second-hand marketplaces for good deals

Budget Range: £90 or so per part limit? I know I can't expect a major upgrade for that but again, second-hand I think maybe it's doable?

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Twitch livestreaming, gaming, editing/rendering video, watching YouTube

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Eventually mobo + CPU + GPU, but which first I don't know, this is what I'm asking for advice on (Current PSU: Powercool 80+ Quad 850W)

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Ebay, facebook marketplace

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Leicestershire, England, UK

Parts Preferences: anything that is compatible with the other parts of my current build

Overclocking: Maybe? I never looked into it much, mainly because I only recently replaced my PC case and fans when the previous one was basically an oven and would definitely have killed anything resembling an overclocked part LOL

SLI or Crossfire: I think no?

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I run Streamlabs OBS to stream Football Manager. The most intensive games I play offline are Dota 2 and the Souls series, so I would like to be able to stream them in case I decide to in future (Dota tanks my framerate even in borderless window when streaming and DS3 takes like literally 3 minutes to load in some assets at times - I'm guessing an upgrade to allow me to play Elden Ring will be too ambitious at this price point haha). I'm not a stickler for 60FPS ultra settings or anything, if I can play something stable 30fps on medium while streaming I'm happy

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I guess I explained in this previous section, I want a machine for livestreaming games that runs a bit better than my current one, ideally I could stream in 1080p on the above listed games.

The question I'm ultimately asking is, where will my money be best allocated first? Bottlenecking sites seem to suggest my current build is pretty balanced so I'm not sure what will provide the best value. For a bit more context, I previously tried to upgrade my GPU to a 1060 but it did not work with my current motherboard (after about 15 hours of troubleshooting) so I would need a new motherboard to upgrade the GPU and it would need to be the same size as my current one. The CPU has been through a fair bit more use than the GPU since it's been in the PC longer. I'm also open to the possibility of going for a 2 PC setup for streaming, if picking up an office PC from ebay and a capture card would be the easiest way of boosting performance by spreading the load across 2 machines.

tldr; Where will I get the most bang for my buck on an upgrade?

Current PC specs:
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Twin Frozr Edition
Motherboard: Gigabyte H61M S2PV rev 2.0
Monitor: BenQ RL2455
CPU: Intel i5-2500k
PSU: Powercool 80+ Quad 850W
8GB RAM

Thanks!

 

[Giant Hunger]

Approximate Purchase Date: ideally within 3 weeks but I'm keeping an eye on second-hand marketplaces for good deals

Budget Range: £90 or so per part limit? I know I can't expect a major upgrade for that but again, second-hand I think maybe it's doable?

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Twitch livestreaming, gaming, editing/rendering video, watching YouTube

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Eventually mobo + CPU + GPU, but which first I don't know, this is what I'm asking for advice on (Current PSU: Powercool 80+ Quad 850W)

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Ebay, facebook marketplace

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Leicestershire, England, UK

Parts Preferences: anything that is compatible with the other parts of my current build

Overclocking: Maybe? I never looked into it much, mainly because I only recently replaced my PC case and fans when the previous one was basically an oven and would definitely have killed anything resembling an overclocked part LOL

SLI or Crossfire: I think no?

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I run Streamlabs OBS to stream Football Manager. The most intensive games I play offline are Dota 2 and the Souls series, so I would like to be able to stream them in case I decide to in future (Dota tanks my framerate even in borderless window when streaming and DS3 takes like literally 3 minutes to load in some assets at times - I'm guessing an upgrade to allow me to play Elden Ring will be too ambitious at this price point haha). I'm not a stickler for 60FPS ultra settings or anything, if I can play something stable 30fps on medium while streaming I'm happy

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I guess I explained in this previous section, I want a machine for livestreaming games that runs a bit better than my current one, ideally I could stream in 1080p on the above listed games.

The question I'm ultimately asking is, where will my money be best allocated first? Bottlenecking sites seem to suggest my current build is pretty balanced so I'm not sure what will provide the best value. For a bit more context, I previously tried to upgrade my GPU to a 1060 but it did not work with my current motherboard (after about 15 hours of troubleshooting) so I would need a new motherboard to upgrade the GPU and it would need to be the same size as my current one. The CPU has been through a fair bit more use than the GPU since it's been in the PC longer. I'm also open to the possibility of going for a 2 PC setup for streaming, if picking up an office PC from ebay and a capture card would be the easiest way of boosting performance by spreading the load across 2 machines.

tldr; Where will I get the most bang for my buck on an upgrade?

Current PC specs:
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Twin Frozr Edition
Motherboard: Gigabyte H61M S2PV rev 2.0
Monitor: BenQ RL2455
CPU: Intel i5-2500k
PSU: Powercool 80+ Quad 850W
8GB RAM

Thanks!

If your going to stream i suggest you to upgrade your cpu first because its cpu intensive while streaming.
Maybe upgrade your cpu to a 6 core processor like a ryzen 5 1600 or 2600, those only cost like $100

 

[MLMDota]

If your going to stream i suggest you to upgrade your cpu first because its cpu intensive while streaming.
Maybe upgrade your cpu to a 6 core processor like a ryzen 5 1600 or 2600, those only cost like $100

Thanks for the response,
would a Ryzen 5 1600 or 2600 fit in my current motherboard or would I require a new motherboard to go with it? My processor socket is LGA1155 in the current mobo. How can I find out if an AMD processor will fit my motherboard, or will none of them?

 

[Giant Hunger]

Thanks for the response,
would a Ryzen 5 1600 or 2600 fit in my current motherboard or would I require a new motherboard to go with it? My processor socket is LGA1155 in the current mobo. How can I find out if an AMD processor will fit my motherboard, or will none of them?

Yes you will need to upgrade with a motherboard
So the motherboard which is compatible with this cpu is a a320 or a b350 or b450. Note that the b350 and a320 youll need to bios update it, if you dont know how to do that go to a repair shop and ask them to do it for you.
Heres some option
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284173611637?epid=23024762233&hash=item422a113275:g:U7sAAOSwvtNgHWMO&LH_BIN=1

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX-Motherboard/dp/B07VB2BG3X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=b450&qid=1632314993&qsid=260-8047236-9252538&s=computers&sr=1-1&sres=B07VB2BG3X%2CB07GYRW53K%2CB07FKNM8FQ%2CB07W837QSF%2CB07MWGKHR9%2CB07F6ZXNXK%2CB07V9L4RT6%2CB08K96RV9H%2CB07G36DF29%2CB07MV7LR1B%2CB07F714FT7%2CB07QK8DZQQ%2CB089XBP9HH%2CB08K91L574%2CB08L598DYN%2CB07G2N5SST%2CB07QXNJHV8%2CB08LCP4N8Q%2CB07FVYKJHR%2CB07GZW32BV&srpt=MOTHERBOARD

 

[MLMDota]

Yes you will need to upgrade with a motherboard
So the motherboard which is compatible with this cpu is a a320 or a b350 or b450
Heres some option
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284173611637?epid=23024762233&hash=item422a113275:g:U7sAAOSwvtNgHWMO&LH_BIN=1

ASUS Prime B350-Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard for sale online | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for ASUS Prime B350-Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX-Motherboard/dp/B07VB2BG3X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=b450&qid=1632314993&qsid=260-8047236-9252538&s=computers&sr=1-1&sres=B07VB2BG3X%2CB07GYRW53K%2CB07FKNM8FQ%2CB07W837QSF%2CB07MWGKHR9%2CB07F6ZXNXK%2CB07V9L4RT6%2CB08K96RV9H%2CB07G36DF29%2CB07MV7LR1B%2CB07F714FT7%2CB07QK8DZQQ%2CB089XBP9HH%2CB08K91L574%2CB08L598DYN%2CB07G2N5SST%2CB07QXNJHV8%2CB08LCP4N8Q%2CB07FVYKJHR%2CB07GZW32BV&srpt=MOTHERBOARD

I shall commit those to memory, thanks. Are there any LGA1155 CPUs that may be worth upgrading to or is this socket too limiting for upgrades? If I were to get an upgraded LGA1155 CPU, would it be difficult to get a motherboard that would accept newer GPUs I will want to get at some point?

 

[Giant Hunger]

I shall commit those to memory, thanks. Are there any LGA1155 CPUs that may be worth upgrading to or is this socket too limiting for upgrades? If I were to get an upgraded LGA1155 CPU, would it be difficult to get a motherboard that would accept newer GPUs I will want to get at some point?

Just buy a new cpu and new motherboard, you wont regret it.
oh yeah make sure you buy new ram as well, the ram your using is a ddr3, youll need to buy a ddr4 ram

 

[geofelt]

A £90 budget will not get you far.
Perhaps used on ebay.
For your needs, you want more threads and enough ram to hold them.
Total of 16gb, and a I7 2700k/3700k

 

[logainofhades]

Cheapest option to get more threads, might be to go with a compatible Xeon E3 1230, or better.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H61M-S2PV-rev-20/support#support-cpu

 

[MLMDota]

Thanks everyone! I will take a look at those i7s and Xeon E3s and see if I can spot a good deal. In the long-term I'll probably look towards AMD Ryzen for a more substantial upgrade and if I decide to pick up one of the LGA1155 CPUs, I guess I can sell it on if I upgrade to recoup some of the expense. That link for the compatible CPUs for my mobo is really useful, so thank you for that!

 

[jacob249358]

Definitly check out website like offerup and mercari for really good deals. 6c/12 would be the sweet spot for streaming. For example I found a ryzen 5 1600 for 60$ a gtx 970 for 100$ and the rest of a pc with an am4 motherboard for 100. 250$ for a complete streaming pc. It takes some searching but with some patience and luck you can save tons on the used market

 

[Giant Hunger]

Definitly check out website like offerup and mercari for really good deals. 6c/12 would be the sweet spot for streaming. For example I found a ryzen 5 1600 for 60$ a gtx 970 for 100$ and the rest of a pc with an am4 motherboard for 100. 250$ for a complete streaming pc. It takes some searching but with some patience and luck you can save tons on the used market

Thats a cool webite, thanks for sharing
I found a ryzen 5 2600 with a b450 for just $130
https://offerup.com/item/detail/1074379574?q=ryzen+5+2600

 

[DSzymborski]

And when you do upgrade your GPU, make sure and upgrade the PSU too; the current one is in the junk tier.

 

[Bob.B]

Approximate Purchase Date: ideally within 3 weeks but I'm keeping an eye on second-hand marketplaces for good deals

Budget Range: £90 or so per part limit? I know I can't expect a major upgrade for that but again, second-hand I think maybe it's doable?

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Twitch livestreaming, gaming, editing/rendering video, watching YouTube

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Eventually mobo + CPU + GPU, but which first I don't know, this is what I'm asking for advice on (Current PSU: Powercool 80+ Quad 850W)

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Ebay, facebook marketplace

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Leicestershire, England, UK

Parts Preferences: anything that is compatible with the other parts of my current build

Overclocking: Maybe? I never looked into it much, mainly because I only recently replaced my PC case and fans when the previous one was basically an oven and would definitely have killed anything resembling an overclocked part LOL

SLI or Crossfire: I think no?

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I run Streamlabs OBS to stream Football Manager. The most intensive games I play offline are Dota 2 and the Souls series, so I would like to be able to stream them in case I decide to in future (Dota tanks my framerate even in borderless window when streaming and DS3 takes like literally 3 minutes to load in some assets at times - I'm guessing an upgrade to allow me to play Elden Ring will be too ambitious at this price point haha). I'm not a stickler for 60FPS ultra settings or anything, if I can play something stable 30fps on medium while streaming I'm happy

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I guess I explained in this previous section, I want a machine for livestreaming games that runs a bit better than my current one, ideally I could stream in 1080p on the above listed games.

The question I'm ultimately asking is, where will my money be best allocated first? Bottlenecking sites seem to suggest my current build is pretty balanced so I'm not sure what will provide the best value. For a bit more context, I previously tried to upgrade my GPU to a 1060 but it did not work with my current motherboard (after about 15 hours of troubleshooting) so I would need a new motherboard to upgrade the GPU and it would need to be the same size as my current one. The CPU has been through a fair bit more use than the GPU since it's been in the PC longer. I'm also open to the possibility of going for a 2 PC setup for streaming, if picking up an office PC from ebay and a capture card would be the easiest way of boosting performance by spreading the load across 2 machines.

tldr; Where will I get the most bang for my buck on an upgrade?

Current PC specs:
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Twin Frozr Edition
Motherboard: Gigabyte H61M S2PV rev 2.0
Monitor: BenQ RL2455
CPU: Intel i5-2500k
PSU: Powercool 80+ Quad 850W
8GB RAM

Thanks!

Trying to upgrade in 125 buck pieces presents a problem.
I don't think you can get a cpu/mobo/ram combo that's an upgrade for that price.

Working with what you have see if you can bump the cpu to a 3770/3770k that should be a straight swap.

With the next 125 bump the ram to 2x8GB @ 1333.