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I'm trying to find a new router and modem as I'm still using the Mediacom provided router. I'm in between 2 things.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016EWKQAQ/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A18XVU389KP5P6
Pros: I hear the range is great and has ai mesh technology
Cons: Expensive and still need a modem with a telephone port
https://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Touchstone-TM822G-Internet-XFINITY/dp/B07C8HS8D5/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1533415998&sr=1-1&keywords=TM822G&th=1
Pros: Cheaper considering it has a modem bundled
Cons: Don't know much about Arris Products

My wifi package is 100mbps (Hopefully 200mpbs soon) and it's bundled with TV and Phone with Mediacom. If you have any other suggestions I'll happily take them (Especially if they're cheaper)
 
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You can use the coax. You need devices called MoCA. They are a little more expensive than powerline units mostly because not a lot of people have coax so there is less competition.

The only big restriction on using moca is some whole house dvr systems or systems like directtv use the same bandwidth. Some actually use moca so you can use the cable box as a network connection. It depends on the cable system. Most moca adapters work fine on most cable systems.
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We have quite a bit of device, a random check right now there are 13 devices online
 
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I'm pretty sure they allow switching out stuff as Mediacom even has a video tutorial showing how you can do it by yourself
 
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any recommended modem with phone plugs?
 
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Your best option likely is to cancel the voice service. Most people have gone to only having a cellphone.

You can likely get some VoIP package for cheaper. I know google voice was free but it been a while since i read this stuff. You would need some box to convert analog phone to network. There are many of these boxes...magicjack was one of the very common ones but there are a lot.

In most cases the ISP will not allow you to buy a modem that phone jacks. They almost always require you to lease them. This is because the voice over cable uses a special high priority channel they don't want you messing around with.

There is no fancy router that will give you better coverage really. The fundamental thing that affects it the most is the allowed radio transmit power. Most routers transmit near the legal maximum. So a inexpensive model will mostly have the same coverage...this is different than transfer speed. The end device many times though do not transmit at full power so problems with coverage tend to be the end device and not the router.

The new problem is not signal strength. It is that everyone in the neighborhood has multiple routers and are blasting them all at full power. It is more this interference that causes poor performance than the signal levels.

The recommended solution for a large house is to use 1 central router and then in rooms you get poor coverage use a AP or router running as a AP to get better WiFI. These need to be connected to the main router via ethernet cable but you can use powerline networks if ethernet is not available.
 
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You can use the coax. You need devices called MoCA. They are a little more expensive than powerline units mostly because not a lot of people have coax so there is less competition.

The only big restriction on using moca is some whole house dvr systems or systems like directtv use the same bandwidth. Some actually use moca so you can use the cable box as a network connection. It depends on the cable system. Most moca adapters work fine on most cable systems.
 
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like this? https://www.amazon.com/BAMF-Manufacturing-4330252732-MoCa-Filter/dp/B01M4ODQTS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1533486286&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=Moca&psc=1
 
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I'm guessing that means I don't have to buy a modem for it?

Update: this https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Dual-Band-Wireless-Extender-Ethernet/dp/B00FKTMWDE/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1533494431&sr=1-3&keywords=Moca+adapter seems to be $14 right now and is also supposed to extend the internet, would somthing like that do the same thing but not require a router?
 
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A moca device converts ethernet to coax. The modem although it has a coax connector is converting "cable internet" to ethernet more or less. Moca is similar but different and operates on different frequencies which makes it so it can coexist on the same cable....in most cases.

You modem does not have a the moca function so you need a external box on the router side so you can in effect connect the coax cable to the lan ports.

There are some modem that do have the ability to run moca and the cable modem function in the same box. They tend to be the rather high end modem/router devices.
 
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does the router that we found have that moca function? also, all I have to do is find a moca box, plug it into the router I have currently then the actiontec will work up and downstairs? planning to buy one for both floors since both struggle and might as well since it's on sale, what moca thing do you recommend? Thanks so much for your help!
 
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I doubt the router has moca. Generally only a modem/router combo device has moca support....and it is only a very small number. A router without a modem does not have a place to connect coax.

You can use 3 moca devices if you want. You would put 1 by the router and then 1 in each of the remote location. The only one that can be a little confusing to hook up is the one by the router. There are a couple ways to do it but it is fairly well explained in the manuals. It partially depends how the coax runs in your house and if you are going to use cable tv in the remote rooms.
 
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