Which ryzen to choose?

[mrpitics]

Hi.

Im currently planning to build a pc and im trying to decide between two cpus. My budget is limitet to 990$ and IM NOT LIVING IN US BUT EUROPE ehich means higher prices than the other end of the pond 🙁 Nevertheless i managed to put together a gr8 config however im having trouble with the cpu. I cabt decide between the ryzen 3 1200 and the 2200g.

He parts:
Mobo: MSI B350M PRO-VDH
CPU:?
GPU: GIGABYTE GTX1060 MIN ITX OC 6GB( not building mini itx but this was the fastest in the price range and as far as i cab tell its as fast as a bigger 1060)
RAM: GeIL PRISTINE 2133MHZ 2X4GB KIT
STORAGE: 1TB 7.2K SATA
PSU: XILENCE XP500R7 500W

Now i wont write down the other parts likd case and screen since its irrelevant.


So... 1200 or 2200g. I know the 2200g is an apu but i heard that paired with a dgpu its a really capable 4core cpu and can be faster than the 1200. Plus kess dependant on ram speed i think. If i strech the budget i may be able to push in a 1300X. Tha has a bigger cache than both.

What do you guys think?

 

[Lutfij]

The 2200G isn't yet mature with it's drivers and the onboard isn't as powerful as a discrete GPU as you have above. I'd side with the 1200 over the 2200G. Oh right, you're going to need a DDR4-3200MHz (dual channel)ram kit to get the best out of Ryzen.

 

[herrwizo]

You are already using a discrete GPU, which kinda renders 2200g's biggest advantage, APU, pointless. Both CPUs are very close in terms of speed, with 2200G being slightly, very slightly faster.

Your mobo does not support 2200G out of the box, unless if it comes flashed with latest BIOS, and there are no guarantees that it does. So, the safest bet is to go with ryzen 3 1200 and OC it later if you wish.

1300X does not provide any meaningful advantage over 1200, since it has same number of cores and can be overclocked the same; cache does help to some extent, but it is a very small difference in the end.

Worth noting: that PSU is low quality, and you do not have an SSD as a system drive, which would make the overall feel of this system much more like 2018. Ryzens also benefit greatly from faster RAM, 2133MHz is really the bottom of the barrel.

 

[jaslion]

You are already using a discrete GPU, which kinda renders 2200g's biggest advantage, APU, pointless. Both CPUs are very close in terms of speed, with 2200G being slightly, very slightly faster.

Your mobo does not support 2200G out of the box, unless if it comes flashed with latest BIOS, and there are no guarantees that it does. So, the safest bet is to go with ryzen 3 1200 and OC it later if you wish.

1300X does not provide any meaningful advantage over 1200, since it has same number of cores and can be overclocked the same; cache does help to some extent, but it is a very small difference in the end.

Worth noting: that PSU is low quality, and you do not have an SSD as a system drive, which would make the overall feel of this system much more like 2018. Ryzens also benefit greatly from faster RAM, 2133MHz is really the bottom of the barrel.

Added on note to the psu. It cannot handle most gpu's that require a pcie 6pin. It will start coil whining extremely loudly and just shut off.

 

[mrpitics]

Ok so changed the cpu to the 1200. I picked another psu: Zalmann ZM600 GS II 600W

I know that the ram is very important but is it really somethibg i need to push? If i change my diet to stale bread for the next mobt i can push in a corsair vengance 3000mhz 8gb 2×4gb kit.

 

[mrpitics]

Also I would love to add an ssd but that is the least important part imo. I plan to add one later and migrate the system on it. Untill then i'll make due with the hdd

 

[mrpitics]

Ok so i have another possibility. I can replace the 1060 in the config for a 4 gb sapphire rx570 an that is like 60$ cheaper (!) Also has less performance but not necessarily 60$ less.
The difference can be used to put in a bit more expensive (1-2$ more) but freesync enabled LG ips screen and either a 120gb system ssd or a better cpu... say a ryzen 5 1400 or 1500x. What do you guys think?

 

[jaslion]

Ok so changed the cpu to the 1200. I picked another psu: Zalmann ZM600 GS II 600W

I know that the ram is very important but is it really somethibg i need to push? If i change my diet to stale bread for the next mobt i can push in a corsair vengance 3000mhz 8gb 2×4gb kit.

That psu is equally terrible. For ryzen get at LEAST 2666mhz ram.

 

[mrpitics]

Settled for the 3000mhz dual channel corsair. be quiet! or EVGA PSU? both 600W

 

[jaslion]

Settled for the 3000mhz dual channel corsair. be quiet! or EVGA PSU? both 600W

What bequit and what evga? Both have bad ones and good ones.

 

[mjslakeridge]

Take a look at these 2 PSU tier lists. You don't need the best available, but stay away from the low quality ones:

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

 

[mrpitics]

Thank You guys fo the help. Settled fo one of the tier2 ones changed for an 1200 added a 3000mhz dual channel kit forom corsair.