Question Which system to get

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1. System
https://www.gaming.gen.tr/urun/175846/blade-3070ti-intel-i5-12400f-asus-tuf-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-gaming-oc-8gb-16gb-ram-500gb- m-2-ssd-oyun-bilgisayar/ this system 1612 dollar.

CPU : İ5 12400F

Mainboard : Asus prime B660M-K

GPU : Asus tuf gaming rtx 3070 Ti

SSD : Kingston Nv1 500gb

Ram : adata xpg gammix d30 2x8 16gb ram 3200mhz Cl 16

Computer case : Asus tuf gaming gt301

PSU : Asus tuf gaming 650B 80+ bronze


2. System

Mainbord : MSI b450m a pro Max 40 dollar or gigabyte b450m s2h v2 42 dollar

CPU : Ryzen 5 5500 170 dollar or Ryzen 5 5600 242 dollar

GPU : Asus tuf rtx 3080 OC v2 1281 dollar

Computer case : Bit Fenix nova mesh SE argb 65 dollar

PSU : High power performance Gold GD 750w 80+ Gold 68 dollar

RAM : G.skill ripjaws v 16gb 2x8 3200mhz Cl 16 73 dollar

SSD : Kingston 500gb nv1 m.2 57 dollar

  1. System : 1468 dollar.
  2. System : Ryzen 5 5500 version 1754 dollar.
  3. System : Ryzen 5 5600 version 1826 dollar.
Which is better for 1440p monitor?

Which would make sense to take?

my budget is 2000 dollar or 2062 dollar with monitor.

Monitor is Dell s2721dgf 250-300 dollar but out of stock.

Can you recommend a monitor?

Edit : 1. System 1612 dollar now.
 
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Build comparison; 1st (Intel) as baseline, 3rd (R5 5600) as alternative:

Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison

Baseline Bench: Game 159%, Desk 99%, Work 152%
CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3070-Ti
SSD: Kingston KC1000 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB

Alternative Bench: Game 194%, Desk 98%, Work 185%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3080
SSD: Kingston KC1000 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB

Note: I had to change RAM in 1st build, since the exact RAM isn't available in UserBenchmark. Same with M.2 NVMe SSD, but since both builds have same M.2 NVMe SSD, it doesn't matter.

Which is better for 1440p monitor?
The more powerful GPU you have, the better it is for higher resolutions. And 3080 is better than 3070 TI.

PSU : High power performance Gold GD 750w 80+ Gold 68 dollar
Are there any other options? Since that PSU isn't the best. E.g Corsair RM, RMx, RMi would do a lot better, or Seasonic Focus+.
 
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Build comparison; 1st (Intel) as baseline, 3rd (R5 5600) as alternative:

Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison

Baseline Bench: Game 159%, Desk 99%, Work 152%
CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3070-Ti
SSD: Kingston KC1000 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB

Alternative Bench: Game 194%, Desk 98%, Work 185%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3080
SSD: Kingston KC1000 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB

Note: I had to change RAM in 1st build, since the exact RAM isn't available in UserBenchmark. Same with M.2 NVMe SSD, but since both builds have same M.2 NVMe SSD, it doesn't matter.



The more powerful GPU you have, the better it is for higher resolutions. And 3080 is better than 3070 TI.



Are there any other options? Since that PSU isn't the best. E.g Corsair RM, RMx, RMi would do a lot better, or Seasonic Focus+.
@Aeacus or a rx6900xt xfx speedster waterblock AMD is cheaper. But this campany is rary. Usually red devil rx6900xt price = İnno3d x4 rtx 3080 price
 
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or a rx6900xt xfx speedster waterblock AMD is cheaper.
Unless you have in-depth knowledge of open loop cooling, including taking care of the open loop (which is a lot of work), don't get that EKWB RGB Waterblock Limited Edition GPU.

But this campany is rary.
You mean that XFX is rare (less known)? If so, XFX is actually mostly known for the PSUs they sell. And they do sell good PSUs. Mainly Seasonic made units.
Sure, XFX isn't as a big brand as Asus or EVGA, but thus far, they have released good products (e.g PSUs). I wouldn't have issues trusting in XFX brand.

Here's some further reading about XFX GPUs (actually all GPU brands),
link: https://www.cgdirector.com/gpu-brands-amd-nvidia/

Usually red devil rx6900xt price = İnno3d x4 rtx 3080 price
RX 6900 XT is almost equal (slightly less) than RTX 3080 in terms of specs. Hence the similar price.
Comparison: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6900-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3080/4091vs4080
 
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Unless you have in-depth knowledge of open loop cooling, including taking care of the open loop (which is a lot of work), don't get that EKWB RGB Waterblock Limited Edition GPU.



You mean that XFX is rare (less known)? If so, XFX is actually mostly known for the PSUs they sell. And they do sell good PSUs. Mainly Seasonic made units.
Sure, XFX isn't as a big brand as Asus or EVGA, but thus far, they have released good products (e.g PSUs). I wouldn't have issues trusting in XFX brand.

Here's some further reading about XFX GPUs (actually all GPU brands),
link: https://www.cgdirector.com/gpu-brands-amd-nvidia/



RX 6900 XT is almost equal (slightly less) than RTX 3080 in terms of specs. Hence the similar price.
Comparison: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6900-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3080/4091vs4080
So should i buy rtx 3080. Ok. İ don't know them. Yeah probably i can buy high power PSU because high power gd Gold PSU x dollar and corsair rm PSU 2x dollar in my country. İs This build good ? Rtx 3080 r5 5600 b450. So an extra $200 for the 3080 and it could save me a few more years?
 

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So should i buy rtx 3080
Between RX 6900 XT and RTX 3080, i, personally, would go with RTX 3080. Since Nvidia GPU drivers are much better than Radeon GPU drivers (less bugs and compatibility issues).

Yeah probably i can buy high power PSU because high power gd Gold PSU x dollar and corsair rm PSU 2x dollar in my country.
Keep in mind that PSU is the most important component inside the PC, since it powers everything.

Also, if you want to have cheap and good PSU, you have to buy two PSUs: the cheap one and the good one. And while you can cheap out on every other component inside the PC, do not cheap out on PSU. Since if you do, you may regret that in the future, and badly. Because when PSU blows up (it's common for cheap PSUs to fail without any reason at all), PSU has the magical ability to fry everything it is connected to.

E.g saving x dollar on High Power PSU, compared to Corsair RM, is far less than the cost of RTX 3080, which High Power PSU can kill. Heck, cheap PSU can fry your entire PC.

That being said, what PSU choice you actually have? Since Corsair isn't the only one to choose from. Seasonic, Super Flower, Antec, XFX, Riotoro - are just the few good ones to choose from.

İs This build good ? Rtx 3080 r5 5600 b450.
Build looks good, as long as you also get a good quality PSU.
But if you do not have money for good quality PSU, get a cheaper GPU, e.g RTX 3070, so that you can afford better PSU. Since time and time again, i've seen people able to afford 300+ bucks GPU, but not able to get 50 extra bucks for proper PSU.

Back in the day (2016), when i bought 1st parts of my Skylake build (full specs with pics in my sig), i had a choice:
  • Buy GTX 1060 6GB and cheaper, but still good Seasonic M12II-620 EVO (80+ Bronze) PSU.
  • Or GTX 1060 3GB and better, Seasonic PRIME 650 (80+ Titanium) PSU.
You can guess which option i picked.
 
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Between RX 6900 XT and RTX 3080, i, personally, would go with RTX 3080. Since Nvidia GPU drivers are much better than Radeon GPU drivers (less bugs and compatibility issues).



Keep in mind that PSU is the most important component inside the PC, since it powers everything.

Also, if you want to have cheap and good PSU, you have to buy two PSUs: the cheap one and the good one. And while you can cheap out on every other component inside the PC, do not cheap out on PSU. Since if you do, you may regret that in the future, and badly. Because when PSU blows up (it's common for cheap PSUs to fail without any reason at all), PSU has the magical ability to fry everything it is connected to.

E.g saving x dollar on High Power PSU, compared to Corsair RM, is far less than the cost of RTX 3080, which High Power PSU can kill. Heck, cheap PSU can fry your entire PC.

That being said, what PSU choice you actually have? Since Corsair isn't the only one to choose from. Seasonic, Super Flower, Antec, XFX, Riotoro - are just the few good ones to choose from.



Build looks good, as long as you also get a good quality PSU.
But if you do not have money for good quality PSU, get a cheaper GPU, e.g RTX 3070, so that you can afford better PSU. Since time and time again, i've seen people able to afford 300+ bucks GPU, but not able to get 50 extra bucks for proper PSU.

Back in the day (2016), when i bought 1st parts of my Skylake build (full specs with pics in my sig), i had a choice:
  • Buy GTX 1060 6GB and cheaper, but still good Seasonic M12II-620 EVO (80+ Bronze) PSU.
  • Or GTX 1060 3GB and better, Seasonic PRIME 650 (80+ Titanium) PSU.
You can guess which option i picked.
Ok. İs xpg core reactor 850w 80+ Gold good ? I will probably try to allocate additional budget for the PSU. There's a sale every Friday night, if I can find a cheap 3080 that'd be great.
 

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MSI b450m a pro Max
This is cheaper end of B450 chipset, with only 2 RAM slots,
specs: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-A-PRO-MAX

With MoBo, i suggest that you get yourself a one with 4 RAM slots, for at least 2 reasons:
  • any further RAM expansion is far easier, you can just add more RAM
  • if one or two RAM slots happen to die, you have 2 more RAM slots to use
galax rtx 3080 or Asus tuf 3080 or Evga ftw3 ultra 3080.
Different brands offer different features and it comes down to the price, aesthetics and/or features.

Here are few such brand comparisons of RTX 3080,
link 1: https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-geforce-rtx-3080-lineup-which-graphics-card-is-right-for-you
link 2: https://www.neogamr.net/best-rtx-3080/
link 3: https://www.gamingscan.com/best-rtx-3080/

While the big boys are covered (Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte and MSI), the smaller ones usually doesn't make their way to the top (Zotac, Galax, PNY, Palit, Gainward, Inno3D, Sapphire, Powercolor etc.). You may find few gems from smaller GPU manufacturers, but that takes luck. Going with any of the big 4 is safer bet (usually).

I, personally, prefer MSI. But Asus is also good.
If you've narrowed your selection down to a couple, might want to read each GPU review and compare them against each other, to pick the one that suits you the best.
 
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