Whoever said those "SuperOrbs"...

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mpjesse

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Whoever said those "SuperOrbs" are not that bad of heatsinks is dillusional. Here's ANOTHER review of the crappy "SuperOrb".

http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/roundup0301/

-MP Jesse

"Signatures Suck"
 
My superorb sucks ass. I mean, a 50°C idle temp on a Duron 700?!?!?! Give me a frickin break. I mean if that Swiftech MC462 or whatever keeps a TBird 1000 at 30° at full load, something is definately wrong with the SuperOrb. Fricking horrible. I'm making my own heatsink. F*ck buying one... Just gotta determine how much money I want to spend on making one. Cuz [-peep-], It would cost about $15 in materials to build an all copper heatsink just like the Swiftech MC462, except better cuz its all copper and not aluminum pins... I want a better one though, I just don't think I wanna spend $60 on a heat sink...

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Yeah, I think that this <A HREF="http://www.micforg.co.jp/faqe.html" target="_new">link</A> on Alpha's site probably explanes why "radial" style heatsinks have problems. I'll repeat a post I made before below. I know you already read it MPJesse. I'm just adding it for those who haven't read it. Hope you don't mind.

I was reading a page on Alpha's site <A HREF="http://www.micforg.co.jp/faqe.html" target="_new">here</A> and came across this info on spiral heatsinks. It says that there is a "high pressure drop" under most conditions, in this shape of heatsink; And that "their performance is not very good".

I was just musing about the possibility of this same high pressure drop affecting other radial style heatsinks such as the Orb (no, I don't work for Alpha :smile: ).

Any thoughts?
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they suck and they crack chips. if you try to put one on your socket a it will crack the core!!!!!

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finally, maybe now those people who keep arguing with me will shut up when they see this. (you know who you are, and everyone else is out to get me...lol)

the orbs are junk.

end of story.

I wish I had a signature.
 
Well, I had a Thermaltake's chrome orb and on a Duron 800@806 it never went higher than 44c (asus a7v mobo sensor). That was a little too hot for my taste. I've just brought a fop 38 and haven't installed it. Hopefully it'll live up to it's name. Even 10 deg will make the chip last twice as long (not that i'm going to use it for the next 10 years, but it's nice to keep things kool). As far as cracking the core goes, I have no idea about the superorbs, but the base on the newer chrome orbs are more rectangular so it's damn hard to damage the die (I had to put damn heavy pressure to install the fan.)

😎 Since we cannot get what we like, let us like what we can get
 
yup. its offcial. orbs suck. my friends got one and he cant overclock AT ALL...and this is a duron 700......its damn hilarious



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Ditto
my chrome orb just wont do it. D800 at 900 47c idle 50c 3dmark, thats with 2 case fans

he who shaves has to much time.
 
ouch...thats hot

i think the day of orbs being cheap, but still effective coolers is rapidly waning....

hmmm....i must have too much time :)

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I've just this minute fitted a "hedgehog" seems better. D800 at 900 43c idle thats 6c lower than orb, have'nt had it under load yet. let ya know

he who shaves has to much time.
 
The problem is that here in Sweden it seems most computer stores only sell Orbs. I've heard a lot of bad things about this fan, so how can it be there are no alternatives here?

Gzzt bzzt.
/TJ303
 
its god punishing you guys for abba and ace of base :)

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Smoking is a major cause of statistics.
 
No, aluminum does not dissipate heat faster than copper. Not only does copper have a higher (i.e. better for heatsink) thermal conductivity, but it also has a lower specific heat. These two properties, more so the thermal conductivity, of copper allow it to absorb and radiate heat better than aluminum. I think the only reason aluminum pins are used is because aluminum is much stronger than copper, so you can have thinner aluminum rods for more surface area. If you used really thin copper rods, they'd be too brittle and prone to breakage. Silver would make the very best heat sink, but a good sized one would be several hundred dollars. Copper rods seem like they'd be much better than aluminum rods... Don't know why they're used.

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*sigh*

I have a long thread about this subject <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=627871#627871" target="_new">here</A>. It's called "The truth about copper heatsinks and aluminum ones".

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isnt "have a day" supposed to be accompanied by a smiley face that looks more or less like this: :-|

not on its side of course

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In all honesty, how highly is alpha going to talk about radial style heat sinks? Thinking that they will speak unbiased is expecting Ford to say that Chevy is a better car! HSF are a personal preference depending on what you are going to do...I know I'm going peltier w/my next system 😉

Jason
 
I have a mini super orb on my 900 Tbird and I used Arctic silver2. I have an Epox 8KTA+ MOBO. My CPU temp idles at 29 C and never goes above 35 C. Whoever says they suck ass is dillusional.

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Hmmm . . . that Arctic Silver2 must really be doing the job. I just put together a 1.2GHz T-bird system on an Asus A7V133 MoBo, put a SuperOrb on the chip (using paste, not tape), got 3 case fans, 2 more fans for the PS, a fan on each of two hard-drive bays, a fan on my V-7700, and one on the A7V133 chipset (i.e. I'm moving more hot air than a politician running for office) and I'm still hitting 47.5C at idle and around 52C after gaming for an hour. I'm not impressed, and I'm now seriously eyeing a Noisecontrol Silverado. This "Super" Orb just doesn't seem too super to me.

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I have 2 Orb running for at least 6 months now and they are great. Both 600@900. People keep on forgeting that in order to full take effect of the cooler, cool air must come into the case and hot air must leave. Until those thing are done, stop blaming the heatsink. Both run idle around 35-37 and max load at 45-46. And either system has crashed. Please make sure that you have good contact between the cpu and hs, and regular thermal paste from rs will do the job fine, but definitely take the pink stuff off.

I know other are better, it the orb works just fine and it's alot quitier then some, I know cause I just invested in a FOP38 for my new system and I tell ya, that thing can really scream louder than you know what (leave that for you to fill in).
 
I've got an 80mm case fan in the front of the case pulling air in, a 60mm case fan pushing air out right next to the proc, another 80mm case fan pushing air out at the top of the case, an 80mm PS fan sucking up air from just above the proc which leads to the second 80mm PS fan that pushes that air out the back. If that doesn't move enough air, I don't know what will short of a 747 turbine engine. Besides, I've even taken the side cover completely off the case and I'm still running hotter than 37C at idle. There never was any "pink stuff" on my fan or on my proc., and I put down a very even, thin coat of paste on the core before applying the fan. Maybe I just got a bad fan, or maybe the 1.2GHz just puts out that much more heat? I don't know.

As for noise, it's a lot more than TT advertises. They say the bottom fan is 28.3db and the top fan is 34db. If you add these together (adding db is not straight addition, there is a calculation you have to run it through) the total noise still comes out in the mid 30's. However, this thing is well above that in operation. Even Tom's agrees in his review - 55db! That's not what I would call quiet. Are there louder fans out there? Sure, but that doesn't make this one quiet. I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed. I'm moving on from this fan to something that cools and/or is quiet - I at least want one of those two. Anyone want a slightly used SuperOrb - cheap?

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me."
-Dudley Field Malone
 
I do'nt know man. It might be the different chips. I have one 80mm fan sucking in air at the front, one blowing it out the back. I think opening the case would make it worse because that way the air won't flow directly throught the case, more like just suck in and fly out the sides. I haven't really noticed a BIG difference in noise level between my old P.O.S coolermaster heatsink and my Mini Super Orb. I mean, I can hear it...but it's not a disturbing sound to me, more like a smoooth sound =P Also, different motherboards/programs alter the temperature readings differently to try to give a more "accurate" reading.

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Now it's been awhile since I took fluid dynamics so I can't back this up with equations and stuff, but with the case open, you're definitely not going to have the airflow you're describing. In fact, with all of them unplugged and a standard house fan blowing into the case, you would probably see equivalent if not better cooling. Think of it like a garden hose where water goes in one end and out the other. If you cut off one "side" of the hose, how well do you really think that water would flow?
 
Granted that with one side of the case off, the airflow will be altered and probably won't be as good. But then again, if the amount of air getting into and back out of the box is the bottleneck (i.e. the closed case is trapping heat in some way and allowing it to build up), then opening up the case could help. In my case (pardon the pun), I did see a slight temp. drop after removing one side of the case and allowing it to breathe. I'm starting to think that one 80mm in the front isn't enough to get good circulation going - I am using a full tower case. I'm also using standard ribbon cables (yeah, I know - bad news) but I do have them tied up out of the way as much as possible. Maybe a blowhole in the side with another 80mm drawing air in right over the proc. area might not be such a bad idea no matter which HSF I go with. Opinions?

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me."
-Dudley Field Malone
 
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