Why are there no 4k 144hz (165hz?) monitors yet?

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Ok, what follows is a bit of a long rant, BUT at the same time It's asking real questions here... despite the anger that flows through me in this post. I do ask your pardon(s) on that, but my singular question here is... why?:



Here I am asking for a reason to why no company,not even benq or asus, has even attempted to put out a 4k 144hz (or even 165hz) monitor? We have 2k from asus at 165hz on an IPS pannel. So what's the problem here? Not enough content, higher end video cards still not capable with live in-game 4k resolution?

I personally think that if you can do ips at 2k, a TN pannel at 4k would be possible.

I'm sorry, but I've been waiting quite a while now since getting my first asus 144hz monitor for a 4k variation and nothing... I haven't even heard so much as a peep out of the devs about development so far. Admitately I haven't gone out of my way just yet to find any videos or blogs or such about it, but... yea what's up here?

I for one am ready to shill out hard-earned money to asus or even benq (despite their outrageous markup). Hell I don't care about brand as I have no loyalties really. All I care about is quality of product, and thus longevity, and having 4k at at least 144hz.

Honestly I don't think there's a lack of ability to build one at that rate, I am of the mind atm that it's just that the "mid range pc" can't handle the 4k resolution in game at ultra high settings for those that would support it if any? Perhaps lack of content... but that's not stopped them before. That's what is kinda making me miffed at the moment towards the major companies... how long has 4k now been out but no one is touching the 144hz area for it? Hell, at 4k you don't need ultra-high settings anymore if the game is developed with 4k resolution in mind in the animations and textures... at this point all you would need is at most 2x or 4x AA (of any sort) and you're good unless you go ultra close.

Am I wrong? I know I have a very standoffish attitude with this post, and please do pardon that if you can. I'm just about at my wits end at waiting here. I'm normally quite patient... but 4k has now been around for how many years? June 2001 wasn't it with the IBM T220? I think we have had WAY more than enough time to get to where we need to be, and am just agast at the fact that we haven't even seen a peep of it so far? 2k? is that all we get 15 years down the road?

Am I the only one that thinks it is more than "high time" we get a 4k monitor at at least 144hz? Especially now that 2k is possible on an IPS at 165! Come on asus, benq, sony, phillips, Someone, ANYONE... yeesh...
 
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Because manufacturers don't believe that there is sufficient market to provide a return for their investment. Are you willing to pay $5K for a monitor? What about $2K? Is so then maybe manufacturers would be interested. But I am betting you aren't willing to pay above $1K and consequently the manufacturers have no motivation. You mentioned the T220. When IBM introduced it the price was $22K. Those kind of numbers make manufacturers interested...
Because manufacturers don't believe that there is sufficient market to provide a return for their investment. Are you willing to pay $5K for a monitor? What about $2K? Is so then maybe manufacturers would be interested. But I am betting you aren't willing to pay above $1K and consequently the manufacturers have no motivation. You mentioned the T220. When IBM introduced it the price was $22K. Those kind of numbers make manufacturers interested...
 
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Thank you for your responces. I kinda neglected the price range issue... you are right there. Most people are not willing to shill out that kind of money on a 4k, hell even an 8k monitor... guess I will have to wait a few more years with 1080p... or upgrade for now to 1440... or so. I myself am willing to pay up to $2k. But that is for something that proves itself a dinger... so to speak in that it proves it has longevity and quality in mind. Can't wait for this tech to drop in price though. Will be awesome in a few years when we do get it I guess... but by then we will be awaiting the 8k releases lol.
 
Ah, ok. Cool. Just figured by now lol. But either way. Thanks. but 144? And that does depend on the game
bet cs 1.5/1.6 and source can all be done at 144 with 4k... if there was a monitor that supported it. Now games like battlefield 4... yea that's another thing all together heh.

But then, I don't ever intend on display port or hdmi... I use DVI-D... so there's enough there I'm betting right?
 
No, DVI-D doesn't support 4K at 60 Hz. Even Dual-link DVI-i only supports up to 2560 × 1600 at 60 Hz.

HDMI 2.0 supports 4k @ 60 Hz.
DisplayPort 1.2 supports 4k @ 60 Hz.
DisplayPort 1.3 supports 8k @ 60 Hz. / 4k @ 120 Hz.
DisplayPort (eDP) 1.4 ...

My EVGA GTX 980 FTW cards have the following ports:

1 x Dual-link DVI-I
1 x HDMI 2.0 (Bandwidth = 18 Gbit/s)
3 x DisplayPort 1.2 (Bandwidth = 21.6 Gbit/s)
 
woh.. ok... I'm woefully out of date on what is best ... I've been out of the game WAY too long (as far as keeping up with what has what bandwidths n such). Thank you for that... So what would it take to do 144hz at 4k? 165? 200? Thank you for the help and readjustment of my faculties here. ehehm.

What is displayport 1.4a capable of? I'm not having an easy time, up late, finding this?
 
I present own two GTX 980 Ti's in SLI, and I couldn't even come close to 4K @ 144 FPS with max settings. I'm not entirely sure my setup would do 60 FPS under those circumstance. Maybe, just maybe, the Pascal replacement of the 980 Ti, will allow you to get within a reasonable distance of the kind of performance you're talking about. But you'll undoubtedly need two of those cards, and still theirs no guarantee.