Question Why B-Die for Ryzen 5000 ? F4-3600C16D-32GVKC vs F4-3200C14D-32GVK

O-steal

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Hi

I am building myself a new system on ryzen 5000 and while browsing through ram kits (2x16G), I realized that except overpriced kits (300+ Euros), no real ram goes above 3600 as XMP profile. I also realized that all sub 300 Euro B-Die verified kits are 3200 CL14 (You can find some at 3600 but you start hitting 500Euros). Knowing that going above 3733MHz with ryzen does not make real sense.

I figured => Why should I pay more to get a 3200 CL14 kit B-Die if it is to overclock it to 3600 CL16 If I can get it from an advertised 3600 CL16 not B-Die kit?

Can you bring me some arguments that would invalidate this reasoning? And answer me the following points:

  1. Is it really guaranteed that the B-Die kit will reach the 3600 CL16 ? (I ask this because my previous kit was flare x 3200CL14 and I wasn't able to go above 3200 at all. (Improve timings greatly: yes, but not the frequency even 3466 @ 1.45 CL16))
  2. If the argument to get the B-Die is that it is easier to get it to 3600 cl14 or 3733, maybe the not B-die can be also be overclocked to reach 3733 which is really close to its advertised speed, or just tighten timings while staying at the same clock?
  3. Are B-Die kits above 3200MHz (like F4-3400C16D-32GTZ ) just a scam for newbie enthusiasts to fall into (it seems to me you just pay the XMP profile above 3200MHz ) if they can juste by a 3200 CL14 and overclock it to get same perf?
  4. Is there a chance that a F4-3600C16D-32GVKC (or any equivalent 3600CL16 kit like trident Z) can happen by luck to be in fact a B-Die?
EDIT: I was mixing up zen 2 and zen 3, why question is not relevant, but the question below could still help some and myself in the future if answered
 
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