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I've seen those numbers too in my own 3DM2001SE; and while those numbers
say the Ti4600 is faster than the 8500, the games I play tell it
differently. Morrowind, Q3A, Half-Life, UT2003, UT, Unreal, TR:AoD.
In these games the performance of the cards is VERY close. The Radeon
is only a few frames per sec slower with everything on and maxed at
1024x768-32. Surpringly, TR:AoD runs smoother with the 8500 than with
the Ti4600.
This is just another real life 'test' that shows me the 3DMax benches
are good for a rough idea of what performance will be like for a
particular combination of hardware and software. But then, that's all
it was meant to be.
Running both cards in the same machine playing the same games shows me
plainly the Radeon is under credited. And it cost exactly half what my
Ti4600 did. It's really moot now anyway. I gave the Radeon 8500 to a
friend and the Ti4600 is sitting on a shelf, the FX5900 is in my sons
system and I'm running the 9800 Pro.
Raj wrote:
> the 8500 and ti4600 aren't even on the same par with performance, its
> the geforce 3 that's has the same performance.( I score 13k with a
> geforce 4 ti4600 at stock speeds, now I don't think the 8500 can pass
> 10k at stock speed in 3dmark 01)
Mine showed over 11,000 in a P4-2.66/533, 1gig DDR400(333), XP Pro, Cat
4.3 set.
The Ti4600 showed just a tad over 13,000 in its last run on the same
computer.
Both cards ran Q3A in 1280x960-32 bits Demo4 at 240 to 247 fps.
Morrowind? That's a different story. Both cards showed the same FPS at
the same resolutions. Morrowind kicks the machine in the memory and
CPU. I'll say that both cards showed an absolutely gorgeous sunset,
night sky and water at very acceptable framerates, considering
everything.
McG>
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d2RHc.22323$mY2.3737@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>> jafar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 05:57:17 -0700, Leodiensian wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> Recently I've noticed comments in the posts on this board like
>>>> "...of course the FX series is terrible...".
>>>>
>>>> I was about to buy an FX 5900XT. Does anyone know the problems
>>>> people are referring to?
>>>
>>> When you're at the heady heights of the FX5900, there isn't so much
>>> of a problem. It's the lower end that is bad.
>>> You would think the FX5200 is faster and better than the Geforce 4
>>> because it is newer right?
>>> The truth of the matter is, a positively ancient Geforce 3 would
>>> beat the FX5200 hands down. You need to go beyond the FX5700 to
>>> beat the performance of the older Geforce 4!
>>> Thats what people mean.
>>
>> That's a good answer. At the 'heady heights' (har! LOL! good one
>> there!) where I like to play, the Radeon 8500-128 and GF4 Ti4600-128
>> are really on the same parr. However, my own experience shows me
>> that the FX5900-128 and Radeon 9800 Pro-128 are not that much better
>> than their older DX8 brothers. Honestly, I was expecting a bit more
>> performance from the FX5900 and Radeon 9800 Pro than I actually see
>> games wise. In anything at all 2D, these 4 cards are truly
>> excellent in that they offer great image quality, all work well with
>> the dual head and two LCD flat panel displays or mix of LCD/CRT.
>> All 4 have been fine choices for any home user doing photo/imaging
>> work. In this capacity, a fast stable mobo/processor and ram
>> selection make the most difference. A gigabyte of ram really
>> improves the speed of the image processing, and USB2 with modern
>> scanners makes image acquisition much less an odious chore of
>> wait...wait...wait.
Speed is nice.
>> So if he gets a quality mobo and ram with onboard video, he'll be
>> able to do what he wants with photo work and enjoy the speed as well.
>> McG.
>>
>>>
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