Why does this system lag ?

[DocHollow]

Hello this computer lags on games such as assassins creed 3 and Rome 2. Pleas could you give me any advice ?
FX-8150 8 core 3.6 ghz
8 GB RAM
500GB Hard drive
GTX 650 ti boost 2gb
32 inch monitor 1360 *768
windows 7 home premium 64 bit .
On games like Rome 2 even when standing still i will run really smooth for about 30 seconds then get 5 seconds of 10 to 20 fps drop, then back to normal? i dont under stand why i have scanned for viruses i still have 200 gb of disk sapce left ? pleas can someone explain to me ? My Skype if you need to message quick is UBX Monster
Or Steam Julius Caesar and my pic is a old painting? Thanks

 

[Sooth1]

What are your temps on CPU and GPU?

 

[tiny voices]

Likely the CPU. Those games are decently heavy CPU games and at that low resolution your GPU is not struggling for high settings, so your CPU will be the limiting factor. The 8150 is not great and was quickly replaced by AMD with the 8320 because of this.

What settings are you playing at? Try lowering them and see if it helps. If this happens on ALL settings, you could have a CPU/GPU overheating issue.

 

[DocHollow]

So for games like Rome 2 will the lag be solved in a patch or will i have to do something with my system? and i will check my GPU and CPU temps now .

 

[tiny voices]

Read my post about the CPU. I believe that is the problem. Games are WAY more CPU intensive at low resolutions like yours.

 

[DocHollow]

What are your temps on CPU and GPU?

When going on Rome 2 i installed a programme called Core Temp when in battle it got up to 180 deg? i thought it would of shutdown but im not sure ? and yes im using a stock cooler

 

[tiny voices]

That is 82c which is TOO HOT. You must have the cooler installed incorrectly. Did you use thermal paste? Is the fan spinning?

The CPU is throttling itself because its getting too hot.

 

[DocHollow]

That is 82c which is TOO HOT. You must have the cooler installed incorrectly. Did you use thermal paste? Is the fan spinning?

The CPU is throttling itself because its getting too hot.

Hey , yeah i am sure it is installed correctly , and the fan is sounding like a god damn jumbo jet on Rome 2 ?

 

[tiny voices]

Something is wrong. Maybe you have to cooler installed incorrectly. Is it properly seated firmly on there? you should not be able to move it, even with alot of force.

 

[DocHollow]

Something is wrong. Maybe you have to cooler installed incorrectly. Is it properly seated firmly on there? you should not be able to move it, even with alot of force.

Yeah it is defiently installed correctly would getting a new cooler make the games stop having awful FPS drop because i think my system is pretty good ? Thanks so so ,much for fast reply's

 

[tiny voices]

No. something is wrong. It is not normal to be that hot at all. You need to take the cooler off, clean off all the thermal paste with a cotton swab and rubbing alcohol. Then reinstall the cooler with new thermal paste like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIO07Mkr-n8

 

[DocHollow]

No. something is wrong. It is not normal to be that hot at all. You need to take the cooler off, clean off all the thermal paste with a cotton swab and rubbing alcohol. Then reinstall the cooler with new thermal paste like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIO07Mkr-n8

Yeah, i have dont this before to try it and i am positive it is installed correctly So will a new cooler and a cool processor stop the fps drop ?

 

[Jessie_atn]

I think his stock fan is just pure crap...try buying a nice cooler (CM has cheap ones) that and check your airflow...stock isn't fun to deal with...

 

[tiny voices]

I think his stock fan is just pure crap...try buying a nice cooler (CM has cheap ones) that and check your airflow...stock isn't fun to deal with...

Honestly 82c is not acceptable for the stock fan. It should never go up above 60.

There is another problem. You could try a different cooler, but changing coolers will not cure this. I have a Phenom 2 x4 BE 125tpd CPU running on the stock AMD cooler and it never goes above 60 under full load.

 

[Jessie_atn]

I think his stock fan is just pure crap...try buying a nice cooler (CM has cheap ones) that and check your airflow...stock isn't fun to deal with...

Honestly 82c is not acceptable for the stock fan. It should never go up above 60.

There is another problem. You could try a different cooler, but changing coolers will not cure this. I have a Phenom 2 x4 BE 125tpd CPU running on the stock AMD cooler and it never goes above 60 under full load.

Sometimes the stock fans come defective. Intel had their fair share and ruined the lives of few...i gotta change mine because it's super old and all it does is attract dust...but he should give his airflow a good check...

 

[tiny voices]

Just because a cooler is old, does not make it any more liable to attract dust.

If the fan is spinning then it is not defective.

There is another issue here. You can try a better cooler but I guarantee even if you get the temps down to where it won't throttle, it will still be far too hot and cause damage to the CPU.

I recently helped a guy who had the stock intel cooler and it wasn't seated correctly. He swore it was correctly installed.

OP if you have removed the cooler before, did you also remove the thermal paste and apply new paste CORRECTLY?

 

[Jessie_atn]

Just because a cooler is old, does not make it any more liable to attract dust.

If the fan is spinning then it is not defective.

There is another issue here. You can try a better cooler but I guarantee even if you get the temps down to where it won't throttle, it will still be far too hot and cause damage to the CPU.

I recently helped a guy who had the stock intel cooler and it wasn't seated correctly. He swore it was correctly installed.

OP if you have removed the cooler before, did you also remove the thermal paste and apply new paste CORRECTLY?

By old i mean worn out...it rarely keeps my cpu under normal temps...but it serves me well.

 

[tiny voices]

I doubt it is worn out. It uses long a life fluid hydraulic bearing which will basically never go bad. You may need new thermal paste, but your cooler is more than likely just fine.

 

[Jessie_atn]

I doubt it is worn out. It uses long a life fluid hydraulic bearing which will basically never go bad. You may need new thermal paste, but your cooler is more than likely just fine.

Yeah you're probably right, but still get the random frame drop and it gets annoying...i might invest in some filters and thermal paste along with the remover and purifier...i just wish i had a better place to store my comp.

 

[coastie65]

I don't know what the TDP is on that processor, but some of those AMDs are space heaters and should be running a third party cooler. There have been sime good suggestions made such as checking to make sure the cooler is seated properly. One thng you may want t check when this is happening, is to see how much processor is being used at the time. You could have stuff running in the backgraound that would cause the processor to run at or near 100% , which will run the temp up.

 

[DocHollow]

But pleas will getting a really good new cooler stop the god damn frame rate drops they are so fustrating ( as in making the CPU cooler )
?

 

[tiny voices]

But pleas will getting a really good new cooler stop the god damn frame rate drops they are so fustrating ( as in making the CPU cooler )
?

Dude, we do not know. It might. But, if the problem is the CPU itself, you may be out of luck. Honestly, if you cannot get the temps below 80c with a properly pasted and installed stock cooler, I do not think an aftermarket cooler will help. You have bigger problems.

 

[coastie65]

Again, when this is happening, Go into the task Manager and check your CPU usage. If it running at or near 100%, then it would drive up your temp. If it is, open the processes and see what is using so much CPU.

 

[DocHollow]

Again, when this is happening, Go into the task Manager and check your CPU usage. If it running at or near 100%, then it would drive up your temp. If it is, open the processes and see what is using so much CPU.

It goes to about 60 but why should it with 8 cores ?

 

[tiny voices]

Games use one or two cores only. Some (very few) games use 4.


The only time you will actually use all 8 cores in is video rendering or encoding.