[SOLVED] Why is the ryzen 1700 more expensive than the ryzen 2700x

Pwigz

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Just curious as im looking to upgrade from my 1700 to either a 2700x or a 3k series. I can streaming well on my pc and game at the same time with my 1700 but i plan on upgrading my cpu soon and was wondering what ryzen cpu would be best.
 

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I went from a 1700 to a 2700X and have been mostly happy with it, and particularly so in light of the price I paid to do so. I think a similar situation will happen again later this year when (if) 4xxx drops. In the case that happens and your motherboard is up to snuff I would wait, echoing @WildCard999
 

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i could wait, but i'm not a patient man lmfao, ive read that the 3600x is the same as the 2700x but comes with a better stock cooler, and that they're basically identical. My brother has a 2700x and has been struggling with streaming tough games with even with a rtx 2070 (ik streamign doesnt have much to do with the gpu).
 

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i could wait, but i'm not a patient man lmfao, ive read that the 3600x is the same as the 2700x but comes with a better stock cooler, and that they're basically identical. My brother has a 2700x and has been struggling with streaming tough games with even with a rtx 2070 (ik streamign doesnt have much to do with the gpu).

The 3600x is 6/12 the 2700x is 8/16 cores/threads. Not the same. With the streaming I think you would want to keep the additional threads.

There could be a lot of reasons why your brothers system isn't streaming smoothly. Whole different subject.

Something else to consider here is that your RAM selection may or may not be 'ideal' for your newer generation CPU as far as speed. If you are on a 3xx motherboard you may or may not run into issue upgrading to RAM that will run optimally and stable.
 

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The 3600x is 6/12 the 2700x is 8/16 cores/threads. Not the same. With the streaming I think you would want to keep the additional threads.

There could be a lot of reasons why your brothers system isn't streaming smoothly. Whole different subject.

Something else to consider here is that your RAM selection may or may not be 'ideal' for your newer generation CPU as far as speed. If you are on a 3xx motherboard you may or may not run into issue upgrading to RAM that will run optimally and stable.
my current motherboard is the Asus Rog Strix B450-F Gaming AM4 and i have 32gb of ram that i had to downscale to 3000 mhz from 3466 due to the 1700 i believe. i believe that mobo would be fine with a 2700x correct?
 
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WildCard999

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The supported speed on the B450-F is interesting... On the Overview page it list 4400mhz however under specs it says 3466mhz. I've been trying to get ahold of ASUS to very which speeds it supports because I own this board and was considering replacing my 2x8gb at 3200 with a 2x16gb kit at 3600+ in anticipation of 4th gen. I just haven't had the time to verify as it's taking forever to get through via the chat.

I'm kind of hoping that increased speeds were supported in the newer BIOS updates...
 
The 3600x is 6/12 the 2700x is 8/16 cores/threads. Not the same. With the streaming I think you would want to keep the additional threads.
They don't have the same core counts, but performance-wise a 3600 or 3600X typically comes within 10% of a 2700X at heavily-multithreaded tasks utilizing all cores, while offering 10-15% better light to moderately-threaded performance, which will likely be more beneficial to games. Given the choice between a 3600 and a 2700X at a similar price, I would probably go for the 3600, unless tasks involving all cores was the primary concern.

What price are you seeing for the 2700X? And have you overclocked your 1700 at all? An overclocked 1700 won't perform too far behind a stock 2700X, so it might not be worth the upgrade. It might be better to just overclock your 1700 if you haven't done so already, and hold off on any processor upgrades until at least later in the year, after the 4000 series is out.