Why won't 8400 download faster than 2.7M?

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Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of course.
I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone Pentium 4
3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3 700MHz seen
and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did better and
this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5 month old 8400
with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase from its previous 2.7M
speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and installed a GHz switch, I've
tried swapping router ports with the one my wife's computer was using
and still no difference. Broadcom's control suite says I'm achieving
Gbit speed to the switch so I at loss to where the problem is. Thanks in
advance.
Paul

 

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Paul Schilter > wrote:
> Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of course.
> I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone Pentium 4
> 3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3 700MHz seen
> and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did better and
> this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5 month old 8400
> with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase from its previous 2.7M
> speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and installed a GHz switch, I've
> tried swapping router ports with the one my wife's computer was using
> and still no difference. Broadcom's control suite says I'm achieving
> Gbit speed to the switch so I at loss to where the problem is. Thanks in
> advance.
> Paul

Well the first thing to check is how fast you can transfer files from
within your network. Try sharing a large file (at least 100+MB) on your
wife's computer, and transfer it over. Time how long it takes and do
the math (note file size is measured in Bytes, but bandwith is in bits).
If the file transfers at a reasonable rate (should be getting at least
80Mbps on a 100baseT network), you know your network card is alright,
and the problem is likely on the router. Does the router have any type
of rate control that can be assigned to a specific MAC or IP (that would
explain why switching ports does nothing). Also are you sure it's a
gigabit switch (I haven't seen very many consumer ones yet -- it's
overkill for most purposes -- and ones with wifi are rarer), even if
it's only 100baseT it shouldn't matter but I'm curious the brand/model.

 

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Paul Schilter wrote:

> Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of course.
> I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone Pentium 4
> 3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3 700MHz seen
> and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did better and
> this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5 month old 8400
> with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase from its previous 2.7M
> speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and installed a GHz switch, I've
> tried swapping router ports with the one my wife's computer was using
> and still no difference. Broadcom's control suite says I'm achieving
> Gbit speed to the switch so I at loss to where the problem is. Thanks in
> advance.

Try the tweaks from here: <http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks>

--
-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

 

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Yeff wrote:
> Paul Schilter wrote:
>
>> Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of
>> course. I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone
>> Pentium 4
>> 3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3 700MHz
>> seen and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did
>> better and this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5
>> month old 8400 with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase from
>> its previous 2.7M speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and installed
>> a GHz switch, I've tried swapping router ports with the one my
>> wife's computer was using and still no difference. Broadcom's
>> control suite says I'm achieving Gbit speed to the switch so I at
>> loss to where the problem is. Thanks in advance.
>
> Try the tweaks from here: <http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks>

....and, download test from www.testmy.com or www.redvsblue.com (this is
not a test site but has very fast servers and large files). The
speakeasy servers via dslreports are erratic, IMO.

Q

 

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Nicholas Andrade wrote:
> Paul Schilter > wrote:
>
>>Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of course.
>>I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone Pentium 4
>>3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3 700MHz seen
>>and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did better and
>>this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5 month old 8400
>>with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase from its previous 2.7M
>>speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and installed a GHz switch, I've
>>tried swapping router ports with the one my wife's computer was using
>>and still no difference. Broadcom's control suite says I'm achieving
>>Gbit speed to the switch so I at loss to where the problem is. Thanks in
>>advance.
>>Paul
>
>
> Well the first thing to check is how fast you can transfer files from
> within your network. Try sharing a large file (at least 100+MB) on your
> wife's computer, and transfer it over. Time how long it takes and do
> the math (note file size is measured in Bytes, but bandwith is in bits).
> If the file transfers at a reasonable rate (should be getting at least
> 80Mbps on a 100baseT network), you know your network card is alright,
> and the problem is likely on the router. Does the router have any type
> of rate control that can be assigned to a specific MAC or IP (that would
> explain why switching ports does nothing). Also are you sure it's a
> gigabit switch (I haven't seen very many consumer ones yet -- it's
> overkill for most purposes -- and ones with wifi are rarer), even if
> it's only 100baseT it shouldn't matter but I'm curious the brand/model.
Nicholas,
The switch is a Netgear gigabit switch, it has five ports but one goes
to the router. I have the 8400 plugged into port 2 and it lights up
green indicating gigabit speed. The other ports show up as amber as the
Tivos and printer are not gigabit speed, it's connected to a Belkin
pre-N four port plus wireless router. I've looked at the router
configuration and haven't been able to see anything that could increase
or decrease speed. I'll have to try the file transfer and see what that
tells me. Thanks
Paul

 

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Jeff,
Yeah I tried dslreports web site, it said it didn't find anything wrong.
Paul

Yeff wrote:
> Paul Schilter wrote:
>
>
>>Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of course.
>>I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone Pentium 4
>>3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3 700MHz seen
>>and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did better and
>>this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5 month old 8400
>>with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase from its previous 2.7M
>>speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and installed a GHz switch, I've
>>tried swapping router ports with the one my wife's computer was using
>>and still no difference. Broadcom's control suite says I'm achieving
>>Gbit speed to the switch so I at loss to where the problem is. Thanks in
>>advance.
>
>
> Try the tweaks from here: <http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks>
>

 

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Paul Schilter" <""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net wrote:
> Jeff,
> Yeah I tried dslreports web site, it said it didn't find anything
> wrong. Paul
>
> Yeff wrote:
>> Paul Schilter wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of
>>> course. I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone
>>> Pentium 4 3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3
>>> 700MHz
>>> seen and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did
>>> better and this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5
>>> month old 8400 with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase
>>> from its previous 2.7M speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and
>>> installed a GHz switch, I've tried swapping router ports with the
>>> one my wife's computer was using and still no difference.
>>> Broadcom's control suite says I'm achieving Gbit speed to the
>>> switch so I at loss to where the problem is. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Try the tweaks from here: http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks

Power down the modem and router. Wait one minute, power up the modem
and, when it has completely booted, power up the router. This is the
standard first step to any troubleshooting of broadband connections.

 

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Paul Schilter > wrote:
>
>
> Nicholas Andrade wrote:
>
>> Paul Schilter > wrote:
>>
>>> Well I'm ready to take another crack at this, with your help of course.
>>> I upgraded my Comcast download speed to 6M. My wife's clone Pentium 4
>>> 3.2G seen an increase to 5.1M, our standby-by HP with a P3 700MHz seen
>>> and increase, so did the Inspiron 7000 with a 300 MHz P2 did better and
>>> this one is a wireless computer. My pride and joy, a 5 month old 8400
>>> with a P4 3.0 GHz and a Gbit NIC didn't increase from its previous 2.7M
>>> speed. I've changed to Cat 6 cables and installed a GHz switch, I've
>>> tried swapping router ports with the one my wife's computer was using
>>> and still no difference. Broadcom's control suite says I'm achieving
>>> Gbit speed to the switch so I at loss to where the problem is. Thanks in
>>> advance.
>>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Well the first thing to check is how fast you can transfer files from
>> within your network. Try sharing a large file (at least 100+MB) on your
>> wife's computer, and transfer it over. Time how long it takes and do
>> the math (note file size is measured in Bytes, but bandwith is in bits).
>> If the file transfers at a reasonable rate (should be getting at least
>> 80Mbps on a 100baseT network), you know your network card is alright,
>> and the problem is likely on the router. Does the router have any type
>> of rate control that can be assigned to a specific MAC or IP (that would
>> explain why switching ports does nothing). Also are you sure it's a
>> gigabit switch (I haven't seen very many consumer ones yet -- it's
>> overkill for most purposes -- and ones with wifi are rarer), even if
>> it's only 100baseT it shouldn't matter but I'm curious the brand/model.
>
> Nicholas,
> The switch is a Netgear gigabit switch, it has five ports but one
> goes to the router. I have the 8400 plugged into port 2 and it lights up
> green indicating gigabit speed. The other ports show up as amber as the
> Tivos and printer are not gigabit speed, it's connected to a Belkin
> pre-N four port plus wireless router. I've looked at the router
> configuration and haven't been able to see anything that could increase
> or decrease speed. I'll have to try the file transfer and see what that
> tells me. Thanks
> Paul

Out of curiousity, have you tried bypassing the switch entirely yet?

 

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Quaoar,
Thanks for the suggestion, I've tried this as well. :-(
Paul


Quaoar wrote:

> Power down the modem and router. Wait one minute, power up the modem
> and, when it has completely booted, power up the router. This is the
> standard first step to any troubleshooting of broadband connections.
>
>

 

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Nicholas,
Yes, I originally was plugged directly into the router. I even swapped
ports with my wife's computer, still hers downloaded faster, about 5.1
Mbps. The download speeds I'm comparing to are very similar between
http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html ,at 2.749 Mbps and
http://chi.speakeasy.net/ ,at 2.665 Mbps. Results are pretty much the
same using Mozzila Firefox or Explorer. Broadcom utility says I'm using
duplex communications and all the checks I can do in tools seem to
indicate everything is fine, the Speakeasy tweaks indicate no problem. I
haven't tried the file transfer between computers but plan to do this at
a later date.
Paul


Nicholas Andrade wrote:

> Out of curiousity, have you tried bypassing the switch entirely yet?

 

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I've found Cnet's site to be completely worthless. Anything over a 2mbps
connection and the site is unreliable -- not fast enough to work properly.

Have you tried plugging the machine into the modem without the router?

Tom
"Paul Schilter" <""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net"> wrote in message
news:guudnZ6DsfrfQg3fRVn-oA@comcast.com...
> Nicholas,
> Yes, I originally was plugged directly into the router. I even swapped
> ports with my wife's computer, still hers downloaded faster, about 5.1
> Mbps. The download speeds I'm comparing to are very similar between
> http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html ,at 2.749 Mbps and
> http://chi.speakeasy.net/ ,at 2.665 Mbps. Results are pretty much the same
> using Mozzila Firefox or Explorer. Broadcom utility says I'm using duplex
> communications and all the checks I can do in tools seem to indicate
> everything is fine, the Speakeasy tweaks indicate no problem. I haven't
> tried the file transfer between computers but plan to do this at a later
> date.
> Paul
>
>
> Nicholas Andrade wrote:
>
>> Out of curiousity, have you tried bypassing the switch entirely yet?

 

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Tom,
No I haven't tried going directly to the modem, I'll give that a try.
Thanks! I hear you as far as the unreliability of these sites, I just
wish the 8400 got a lot closer to wife's unreliable readings. I would
expect them to be similar in their download readings. The two other
computers showed an increase from their previous readings before going
to a 6 Mbps capability.
Paul


Tom Scales wrote:
> I've found Cnet's site to be completely worthless. Anything over a 2mbps
> connection and the site is unreliable -- not fast enough to work properly.
>
> Have you tried plugging the machine into the modem without the router?
>
> Tom
> "Paul Schilter" <""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net"> wrote in message
> news:guudnZ6DsfrfQg3fRVn-oA@comcast.com...
>
>>Nicholas,
>>Yes, I originally was plugged directly into the router. I even swapped
>>ports with my wife's computer, still hers downloaded faster, about 5.1
>>Mbps. The download speeds I'm comparing to are very similar between
>>http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html ,at 2.749 Mbps and
>>http://chi.speakeasy.net/ ,at 2.665 Mbps. Results are pretty much the same
>>using Mozzila Firefox or Explorer. Broadcom utility says I'm using duplex
>>communications and all the checks I can do in tools seem to indicate
>>everything is fine, the Speakeasy tweaks indicate no problem. I haven't
>>tried the file transfer between computers but plan to do this at a later
>>date.
>>Paul
>>
>>
>>Nicholas Andrade wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Out of curiousity, have you tried bypassing the switch entirely yet?
>
>
>

 

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My gut tells me it is just settings for your gigabit card. Frame size, etc.
Find some 'DSL tweaks' or 'Cable tweaks' and try them.

Although I have gigabit in my machines and don't run into these problems.

Tom
"Paul Schilter" <""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net"> wrote in message
news:yKudnRDxxbdngQzfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> Tom,
> No I haven't tried going directly to the modem, I'll give that a try.
> Thanks! I hear you as far as the unreliability of these sites, I just wish
> the 8400 got a lot closer to wife's unreliable readings. I would expect
> them to be similar in their download readings. The two other computers
> showed an increase from their previous readings before going to a 6 Mbps
> capability.
> Paul
>
>
> Tom Scales wrote:
>> I've found Cnet's site to be completely worthless. Anything over a 2mbps
>> connection and the site is unreliable -- not fast enough to work
>> properly.
>>
>> Have you tried plugging the machine into the modem without the router?
>>
>> Tom
>> "Paul Schilter" <""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net"> wrote in message
>> news:guudnZ6DsfrfQg3fRVn-oA@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Nicholas,
>>>Yes, I originally was plugged directly into the router. I even swapped
>>>ports with my wife's computer, still hers downloaded faster, about 5.1
>>>Mbps. The download speeds I'm comparing to are very similar between
>>>http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html ,at 2.749 Mbps and
>>>http://chi.speakeasy.net/ ,at 2.665 Mbps. Results are pretty much the
>>>same using Mozzila Firefox or Explorer. Broadcom utility says I'm using
>>>duplex communications and all the checks I can do in tools seem to
>>>indicate everything is fine, the Speakeasy tweaks indicate no problem. I
>>>haven't tried the file transfer between computers but plan to do this at
>>>a later date.
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>Nicholas Andrade wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Out of curiousity, have you tried bypassing the switch entirely yet?
>>
>>