Hi,
I've looked for many different answers to what is going on. I've tried a few different things, and watched overclocking videos. Most of these examples are not the same hardware options I have. And nothing behaves the way it does in these videos where I watch people doing this.
My hardware:
Patriot Viper 4400mhz (PVS416G440C9K)
Gigabyte Auros Master x570 (Latest BIOS F22)
Ryzen 3900x (Latest chipset drivers as of 2 weeks ago)
Thermaltake RGB 3.0 AIO (Gets CPU to 32 C at idle, 69 C on Cinebench, and 74 on Ryzen Master stress test)
First, I realize I made a mistake by going with 4400mhz. This RAM is definitely on the QVL (I provided the SKU in case someone wanted to double check me), but I now understand that the a better Ryzen approach is generally 3600mhz RAM and Fabric clock speeds in a 1 to 1 ratio. And that is all I am trying to get to. But the RAM refuses to go even close to it.
I have tried the BIOS and Ryzen Master to overclock. My current OC is in Ryzen master at 2x 1533mhz RAM to 1533mhz Fabric with coupled mode on. In fact, I got all of this hardware within a week of the Ryzen 3900x release date, and was able to achieve this overclock on day 1 with the F2 BIOS. This was before the memory was added to the QVL. (To be clear, the 2x 1533 meaning how it is displayed in the application, but it is a 3066mhz actual speed. So 544mhz slower than I want it at, and what it is more than capable of achieving).
Anything higher and it would refuse to take. I'd load in, and Ryzen Master would show the defaults. I don't remember the values for sure, but I think they were something around 1200mhz RAM, and 1066 Fabric at default. Anyway, I was able to increase the overclock to 1600mhz 1:1 with F16. However, since that BIOS, I've been forced to return to 1533mhz 1:1.
I've tried it decoupled just to see if it would even be stable. I know it would have undoubtedly been worse performance, but I just wanted to see if the RAM could go higher uncoupled. Nothing else will work. I've used 1usmus' RAM calculator, and also manually enter values BOTH in BIOS and Ryzen Master. I set the voltage higher based on Patriot memory specifications. I've followed basically all the guides I can find. I've started at very low levels and incrementally increased them to find the highest stable values... and when I do it like that manually, I cannot come close to the 1533mhz 1:1 that I get when I set that in Ryzen Master, and let it handle everything else auto...
I've also used the XMP profiles. One of the profiles is posted in the QVL as the tested and working profile for the Auros Master x570... But it definitely does not work for me. I should also note that literally no values outside of the defaults will stay set in the BIOS. If I set them there, they are seemingly not applied. The values stay as I set them, but when I use something like CPUz to see my speeds and voltage, nothing has changed.
Why would this exact RAM be on the QVL list, but completely unable to come remotely close to what Gigabyte got on this motherboard? This is the Matisse QVL by the way, so they were using one of the Ryzen 3XXX cpu's to test it. Does this maybe mean they were using a Ryzen 3600, for example?
Any ideas of what I might be missing? I can provide pictures if that helps diagnose my mistakes. Thanks to anyone who has taken the time to read this, and anyone that might have suggestions.
I've looked for many different answers to what is going on. I've tried a few different things, and watched overclocking videos. Most of these examples are not the same hardware options I have. And nothing behaves the way it does in these videos where I watch people doing this.
My hardware:
Patriot Viper 4400mhz (PVS416G440C9K)
Gigabyte Auros Master x570 (Latest BIOS F22)
Ryzen 3900x (Latest chipset drivers as of 2 weeks ago)
Thermaltake RGB 3.0 AIO (Gets CPU to 32 C at idle, 69 C on Cinebench, and 74 on Ryzen Master stress test)
First, I realize I made a mistake by going with 4400mhz. This RAM is definitely on the QVL (I provided the SKU in case someone wanted to double check me), but I now understand that the a better Ryzen approach is generally 3600mhz RAM and Fabric clock speeds in a 1 to 1 ratio. And that is all I am trying to get to. But the RAM refuses to go even close to it.
I have tried the BIOS and Ryzen Master to overclock. My current OC is in Ryzen master at 2x 1533mhz RAM to 1533mhz Fabric with coupled mode on. In fact, I got all of this hardware within a week of the Ryzen 3900x release date, and was able to achieve this overclock on day 1 with the F2 BIOS. This was before the memory was added to the QVL. (To be clear, the 2x 1533 meaning how it is displayed in the application, but it is a 3066mhz actual speed. So 544mhz slower than I want it at, and what it is more than capable of achieving).
Anything higher and it would refuse to take. I'd load in, and Ryzen Master would show the defaults. I don't remember the values for sure, but I think they were something around 1200mhz RAM, and 1066 Fabric at default. Anyway, I was able to increase the overclock to 1600mhz 1:1 with F16. However, since that BIOS, I've been forced to return to 1533mhz 1:1.
I've tried it decoupled just to see if it would even be stable. I know it would have undoubtedly been worse performance, but I just wanted to see if the RAM could go higher uncoupled. Nothing else will work. I've used 1usmus' RAM calculator, and also manually enter values BOTH in BIOS and Ryzen Master. I set the voltage higher based on Patriot memory specifications. I've followed basically all the guides I can find. I've started at very low levels and incrementally increased them to find the highest stable values... and when I do it like that manually, I cannot come close to the 1533mhz 1:1 that I get when I set that in Ryzen Master, and let it handle everything else auto...
I've also used the XMP profiles. One of the profiles is posted in the QVL as the tested and working profile for the Auros Master x570... But it definitely does not work for me. I should also note that literally no values outside of the defaults will stay set in the BIOS. If I set them there, they are seemingly not applied. The values stay as I set them, but when I use something like CPUz to see my speeds and voltage, nothing has changed.
Why would this exact RAM be on the QVL list, but completely unable to come remotely close to what Gigabyte got on this motherboard? This is the Matisse QVL by the way, so they were using one of the Ryzen 3XXX cpu's to test it. Does this maybe mean they were using a Ryzen 3600, for example?
Any ideas of what I might be missing? I can provide pictures if that helps diagnose my mistakes. Thanks to anyone who has taken the time to read this, and anyone that might have suggestions.