Will an quad i5 4690 multitask / multithread as good as a FX 8320 ?

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Thing is i bought a FX 8320 , but having in mind an i5 4690 is like two times better ( if im right ) and having in mind also that i ll buy a r9 280x sometime and wish to high / ultra most games with 1080p without a cpu bottleneck i was thinking of replacing the fx 8320 and paying the extra money for the i5 . But im in a tight budget.Also i was also looking for future proof processors , i was thinking if next games start using at least 6 cores i wanna be ready for that . So my question is will a quad core i5 hypothetically run well games with 6 or 8 cores in the future despite being a quad core processor ? Do you think the struggle for paying those extra bucks for a i5 is worth it or maybe i should just stay with my fx 8320 and pay for an intel board with i 7 and a better graphics card later when i have plenty of money to spend ? I have a hd 7850 right now
 
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No that site isn't worth it read reviews on the fx 8370 in later games its behind the I5 or close but the 8320fx will not be as close and since you don't plan on overclocking the I5 really is the way to go. But you said you already have a 8320fx then well keep it i own the 8350fx it works decent enough for gaming. Watch dogs uses every single core the 8350fx has and it still only keeps up with an I5 anything less then that will lose...
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The 8320 is what 140$ now that makes it a great deal and superior to Intel at that price, the 8350 is closer to 170-180$ which is close to the price of an I5(locked 3.2Ghz). Boards from Intel are good for really cheap now(like 50-60$). Honestly if it was me i would go Intel over piledriver being so old now and the AM3+ socket is so old doesn't even have native usb 3.0 support or PCI-E 3.0.
 
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I would honestly just stay with the 8320 since you're on a budget and already have it.

I have an FX 6300 @ 4.5GHz and it's not even starting to struggle with 99.9% of whatever I chuck at it. An i5 is always going to be really strong even in heavily threaded games and other applications and atleast as strong if not stronger than AMD's current 8 core processors, but the real world difference that you actually see in games right now is not huge by any means and that gap is only going to close.
 
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I was not planning to OC and even if i did i would OC to 4.0 max cus aftermarket coolers like hyper 212 are really expensive here XD. But anyways the most important question was will an i5 be paired with an fx 8320 when games start using 6 or 8 cores ? Or already with 6 cores optimized games the FX 8320 will win? I also have just enough money to buy a B85M-G 1150 board but i've seen that board just has 1333 and 1600 mhz ram support only , will 1600 mhz ram be ok with an i5 4690 or even an i7 4790k in the future? Will the board Itself be good for this i5 or an i7 with the chipset it has ?
 
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I hear many people OC it but without a cooler like cooler master hyper evo 212 or even if i buy it im scared about OCing and voiding the warranty and in the worst case burning the cpu or the mobo , so i wont stick much to overclocking. Probably i can buy an i5 i just gotta ask for some borrowed money and if the seller allows me to replace it with an i5 i will do it but , the question that concerns me is Will the i5 ALWAYS be much stronger than the fx 8320 ? I mean , even if games utilize full 8 cores of it ? Because then i should go for the i 5 , cus i've been told that R9 280x and R9 290 boards make an fx 8320 be bottlenecked for bad

 
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No that site isn't worth it read reviews on the fx 8370 in later games its behind the I5 or close but the 8320fx will not be as close and since you don't plan on overclocking the I5 really is the way to go. But you said you already have a 8320fx then well keep it i own the 8350fx it works decent enough for gaming. Watch dogs uses every single core the 8350fx has and it still only keeps up with an I5 anything less then that will lose
http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmarks/page5.html
 
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Bottlenecking is well overused, sure, you could have a really bad bottleneck depending on the application but I guarantee that you won't see your FX 8320 at 100% load and unable to push the GPU any further in many games with a HD 7850 and even if you had an R9 290X, you wouldn't experience an actual bottleneck much if at all.

If you could take your FX 8320 back and pay the difference for an i5 4690, that'd be worth it definitely, I'd do the same! 😛 I think the i5 will always be stronger than any AMD FX 6-8 core processor and that the gap will narrow if games do become more heavily threaded or optimised for more cores, but I don't see that happening while the i5 is considered the gamers CPU and while Intel absolutely dominate the market. My point is that the FX 8320 will handle most situations and you already have it.

The difference can definitely be pretty substantial in some games, but which games are you planning to play at over 120FPS with a HD 7850?
 
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I actually bought the fx 8320 a month ago so i may have the chance to put more money and change it for an i5 . Also i've heard it reaches really hot temperatures when the fx is overclocked , so idk . It would be great if i could save this bucks to buy a graphics later , but for example i wanna play The Evil Within with my new cpu when it is released , and maybe with this game where if im right will ask for a powerfull cpu i might need an i5 instead of a 8320 . " watch dogs uses every single core of the fx 8350" I truly didnt know that , so what we could say is that the 8350 clocked at 4 ghz stands a chance at future games that use 8 cores ? or even there the i5 will win?
 
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So you think i wouldnt have much bottleneck if at all ? Because some weeks ago i asked a guy who said " an fx 8320 will bottleneck an r9 290 , PERIOD " And he also showed me a "chart" with estimated points for each processor , where as both processors had this points :

FX 8320 i5 4690

1st core : 100 + 1st core : 200+
2nd core : 100 + 2nd core : 200+
3rd core : 100 + 3rd core : 200+
4th : 100+ 4th core: 200+
5th: 25+
6th: 25+
7th: 25+
8th: 25+

With what he said in mind in the case its accure , fx 8320 would reach 425 points when using 4 cores , and 500 when using 8 . But the i5 will reach 800 all the time so this could mean the i5 is far better.

Anyways you said "if you could take your fx 8320 back and pay the difference that d be worth it definitely" and the reason i can is because im not using it now XD i have it closed new in da box. I also liked intel combo because of the PCI EXPRESS 3.0 and lower temperatures and no needing to overclock. So summary if i Can go with the i5 for now and a future with 8 core optimized games , i should ? And forget about the tempting feature of fx of having 8 cores for a good price ? The cpu i will use for The Evil Within , Call of duty Modern Warfare , Battlefield Hardline , Lords of the fallen , Middle Earth all games where if i can get plenty more fps with a 7850 or a 280x i would soo prefer it of course
 
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I have 2 R9 270's overclocked to the equivalent speeds of a reference R9 270X which perform on a similar level to an R9 290X in games that are well optimised for Crossfire and an FX 6300 CPU, there's literally 1 game where I have experienced a very slight CPU bottleneck and that game is an unoptimised early access alpha with erratic CPU usage. It's definitely possible that the CPU will max out before an R9 290 but you'll rarely see it and I would love to ask that guy under what circumstance will an R9 290 be bottlenecked by an FX 8320, PERIOD? Because it wouldn't even equate to 5% out of a set of scenarios.
 
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Lol, that chart is the bullshittiest thing I've seen today.
As said a dozen times now, if you can give the fx 8320 back, do it and push the money to an I5. Or, if you can't, get a nice aftermarket cooler and oc it.
As afraid as you may be, the 8320's strength lies in overclocking. On base clock, it can't even match haswell I3's.
 
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^ True, except for the I3 thing in next gen gaming a dual core processor of any kind is just nonsense over latency times. If i was him i would just keep the build he has and buy a water cooler or something and OC(My FX gets really hot on my cooler). If he could sell his CPU+board for a good amount of money he could get a decent Intel board for just 60$ and an I5 for 190$ but i'm not even sure if its worth it in next gen gaming maybe a few frames here and there unless he OC's that I5 for spends 240$ on one.

I compared an I5 haswell at 3.2ghz to my CPU in several gaming benchmarks and in some mine actually wins(rare) but in most it doesn't even matter and is over exaggerated on several fourms.

Now i will say this my CPU isn't bottlenecking my GPU at ALL in any games i play my GPU is at 99% usage and the 280x-770 are equal. Anything more then that well might bottleneck but many claim its still ok. If i had the money to spend i'd buy a I7 4790K but its not needed.
 
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Completely agree with jdwii here. Basically the chances of a bottleneck are increased as the power of the GPU increases in relation to the CPU, it's not set in stone that part A WILL bottleneck part B and most people treat a bottleneck like it's the end of the world and compensate for it by buying an overpowered CPU. In the one bottleneck I have experienced, my CPU can't keep up with both of my GPU's at full clock speeds (1050/1500) and they clock back to 1014/1400 and the performance loss is minimal to the point of being barely noticeable.
 
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I know i5 is better , i know it less power consuming , produces less heat and is more efficient but i feel i need more fundaments / explanations as why i should go with it instead xd cus i always think of games that will be released say 6 months later , right now games like The Evil Within asks for an i7 in recommended requirements, as same as Middle Earth they ask for an i7 or a fx 8350 its like they are telling me " Get 8 threads , YoU NeEd 8 ! not 4 , 8 ! " xD And i thats why i cant get my mind to buy the i5 and i emotionally stick to the FX LOL .

Quote jdwii " If he could sell his cpu + board he could get a decent intel board for just $60 " " But im not even sure if its worth it in next gen gaming " " Yeah ! Thats the question that is messing with my mind , is 4 cores really worth it for latest / next gen games? Cus if they already tell you to get an i7 with HT or a fx 8350 for recommended requirements ....

Now , talking about prices in My Country to see what you guys think , right now i payed $230 for the fx 8320 which was a "nice deal " , and if i wanna get the only i5 4690 left in the store to replace it i gotta pay $ 136 more , a total of $366 for the i5 4690 ( I know sellers prices are nuts ) .
Then about getting appropiate cooling for OC the fx 8320 where a HYPER 212EVO is around 21 dollars with shipping on ebay here the HYPER PLUS 212EVO costs $80 bucks so that cooler is scratched for a kind of budget build. The cheapest intel board with 1150 socket and pci express 3.0 i found costs 130 dollars here , jdwii if you know about a $60 dollar one with pci e 3.0 and perhaps support for i7 4790k tell me please xD. So buying an fx 8320 plus a hyper plus evo 212 here would be 50 bucks less so that cpu cooler combo wont be really worth it for me perhaps i should go with the i5 then.

My worries about overclocking is cause in summer some days i have 86 F° and also my room becomes an oven so my pc will be at the verge of painfull death if i have no proper cooling XD I like the idea cause i wanted to start with a moderate 4.0 ghz OC but do not want to make a mistake that will cost me the mobo + cpu .

 
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System requirements are often ambiguous to say the least, The Evil Within's system requirements are for how the developer 'intends' for you to run their game (which they can take and shove up their...), it's not to say that the game will work better if you have a processor with more cores and I'm willing to bet that Shadow of Mordor wouldn't run any better with an i7 over an i5. It's all well and good listing an 'i7' in the system requirements too, but the latest i7's are a hell of a lot stronger than the first generation i7's.

If you can take your FX 8320 back and get your money back and then use the cash to get an Intel motherboard and CPU, go for it! Most people would. Nobody can put an accurate estimation on a 4th generation i5's lifespan, but personally I think it will outlive an 8320/E, 8350, 8370/E, 9370 and 9790, but whether you go for an Intel build or an FX 8320 build, just enjoy it 😉 Both platforms will do what you want.
 
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That is great anti-duck , i think i got convinced about going for intel , my last doubt is , theoretically if the quad core processor was made in 2014 this year , i wont have any problems with games from here to 2 or 3 years later , even if those games use 6 or 8 cores right ? That s something that hasnt been exactly answered yet xD So i just wanted to be sure
 
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I don't think you'll have any problems, all of the i5's from 2nd gen and up are really strong processors culminating in the 4690(k) which is just ridiculously strong and it doesn't take an overwhelming beating in anything from an 8 core FX CPU. Do I think you'll take so much of a performance hit that you'll be unhappy with a 4690 when games can utilise extra threads or actually use more cores as opposed to actually being able to use 2-4 cores but spreading the load across all available cores? No I don't 😛
 
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The I5 4690k is stronger in EVERY game that uses dx11 or lower. On the same clock speed an I5 matches 8 thread performance of a fx cpu, still getting tons of better single core performance.
The 4690k is simply faster than the 8350fx.

There are some games out that utilize all cores already. None of them favours a fx over an I5.

Things MIGHT change with dx12, eliminating main thread and generally making computations easier. But then, at best (for the fx) it would perform absolutely the same as the I5.
 
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Ok so is the i5 4690 worth it even if it costs me $130 dollars more than FX 8320 and $65 dollars more than the fx 8350 ? Because im not really gonna overclock de CPU , im not into it and even if i overclocked the C M hyper 212 plus costs $80 here . And max intel processor i ll buy is 4690
 
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