[SOLVED] Will I have to wait until the Nvidia RTX 4000 series to buy a new GeForce GPU?

[fordongreeman]

So there are not enough RTX 30xx for every single person who wants one?

Even after they manufacture a new batch, all of them will sell out within a matter of minutes?

Will I have to wait ~2 years for the RTX 4000 series to be released before I can get a new GPU?

How long of a waiting list will I have to be on before I can obtain one?

Is the GPU market going to be like this indefinitely?

 

[hotaru.hino]

It'll be the same situation when that comes out. Scalping isn't a new thing. It's just worse this time around because production is at capacity and the pandemic.

 

[Wolfshadw]

So there are not enough RTX 30xx for every single person who wants one?

Correct.

Even after they manufacture a new batch, all of them will sell out within a matter of minutes?

Unknown. Depends on whether supply meets demand.

Will I have to wait ~2 years for the RTX 4000 series to be released before I can get a new GPU?

Unknown. Depends on when the release of the RTX 4000 series is and whether supply meets demand.

How long of a waiting list will I have to be on before I can obtain one?

Unknown. Impossible to tell without knowing available supply vs public demand.

Is the GPU market going to be like this indefinitely?

Unlikely, but unknown.

-Wolf sends

 

[Adam0ne]

So there are not enough RTX 30xx for every single person who wants one?

Even after they manufacture a new batch, all of them will sell out within a matter of minutes?

Will I have to wait ~2 years for the RTX 4000 series to be released before I can get a new GPU?

How long of a waiting list will I have to be on before I can obtain one?

Is the GPU market going to be like this indefinitely?

Nowadays, these components will sell very fast.

The RTX4000 may take a year at least. But it doesn't make sense to wait that long. If you need a good GPU already and have the means to pay premium, search diligently on online stores like ebay, amazon, and newegg. That's what I did last December 2020. Make an offer. You might get what you want.

There is no guarantee for waiting lists. Not even a sure way to get it unless they accepted initial payment from you. But enlist your email to be notified when in stock.

At the moment, YES, the GPU market will be like this indefinitely.

Just like my advise above, "If you need a good GPU already and have the means to pay premium, search diligently on online stores like ebay, amazon, and newegg."

Just buy brand new and it has to have the receipt from the store they purchased it from.

 

[fordongreeman]

With all previous generations of graphics cards from both AMD and Nvidia, there was never a shortage and you could very easily get one if you wanted.

What is different about today?

Are these two companies deliberately not manufacturing enough graphics cards so that they can gouge people?

 

[Gam3r01]

With all previous generations of graphics cards from both AMD and Nvidia, there was never a shortage and you could very easily get one if you wanted.

What is different about today?

GPU mining is once again profitable, and people have realized this.
They also realized that programming bots to buy every GPU they can and resell them due to low stocks is also profitable.

Combine the two and the scalpers actually have a market that is so desperate for cards that people will pay for them.
If it wasnt for stock shortages or GPU mining, people would just wait for reasonable prices so scalpers wouldnt make money. But people are buying anything they can.

 

[fordongreeman]

GPU mining is once again profitable, and people have realized this.
They also realized that programming bots to buy every GPU they can and resell them due to low stocks is also profitable.

Combine the two and the scalpers actually have a market that is so desperate for cards that people will pay for them.
If it wasnt for stock shortages or GPU mining, people would just wait for reasonable prices so scalpers wouldnt make money. But people are buying anything they can.

Maybe they should make a GPU that is meant for gaming, and a GPU that is specifically intended for mining?

Also, what the hell is mining anyway?

 

[JA50N]

I ordered mine October 15th, prepaid for it and it arrived January 30th. What they need to do I force Ebay, Kijiji, Amazon for selling anything new above 30% over MSRP on new and not allow used product that is under say 5 years old (therefore has no reason to be worth more than MSRP) to be resold at anything at all above MSRP then the Scalping will likely die a hard death. And just like New cars once they drive off the lot they are used.

 

[Adam0ne]

I ordered mine October 15th, prepaid for it and it arrived January 30th.

That's the best way to do it- prepaid.

I enlisted my email to be notified for stock last Oct 2020. I stil have not received any updates. Thats how bad the waiting list is.

 

[hotaru.hino]

With all previous generations of graphics cards from both AMD and Nvidia, there was never a shortage and you could very easily get one if you wanted.

The last two generations of NVIDIA cards were hard to get a hold of at launch. And they got increasingly harder. I recall AMD's cards weren't fairing much better either and it was to the point where stores were upping the price on them.

What is different about today?

Are these two companies deliberately not manufacturing enough graphics cards so that they can gouge people?

Production is at capacity. Among the things competing for 8nm/7nm/5nm are:

• Qualcomm's latest Snapdragon (which that family is used in like every non Apple phone in the US and Europe)
• Samsung's latest Exynos
• Apple's A12 and M1 (and think about how many iPhones/iPads they move in a given year)
• Ryzen 3000/5000 series
• Radeon 5000/6000 series
• PlayStation 5
• Xbox Series X/S
• GeForce RTX 3000 series

And there's only one company that can make 7nm/5nm. And only one company at 8nm. And the pandemic likely halted or reduced production for a good while. So we got a bunch of hot ticket items everyone wants, basically one company making them all (most of those items listed are produced by TSMC), and we're still in the middle of a pandemic. I don't think the situation is going to improve any time soon.

Maybe they should make a GPU that is meant for gaming, and a GPU that is specifically intended for mining?

NVIDIA did make mining only cards. Except you could still game on them anyway. And any determined hacker can get a so-called "game only" GPU to run a mining program. In which case, how do you even determine it's running a miner and not a game?

It's like trying to combat piracy: you can't win. You can only delay the inevitable.

 

[LordVile]

So there are not enough RTX 30xx for every single person who wants one?

Even after they manufacture a new batch, all of them will sell out within a matter of minutes?

Will I have to wait ~2 years for the RTX 4000 series to be released before I can get a new GPU?

How long of a waiting list will I have to be on before I can obtain one?

Is the GPU market going to be like this indefinitely?

Why do you want a 3000 series card? You can get older gens for a decent price still

 

[JA50N]

Why do you want a 3000 series card? You can get older gens for a decent price still

no you get older less capable cards for inflated prices, basically you bet to by a card nearing obselesence , for the same cost as when someone bought it brand new when it was cutting edge. The fact that 2080s and 1080s are still going for a G note is outrageous.

 

[LordVile]

no you get older less capable cards for inflated prices, basically you bet to by a card nearing obselesence , for the same cost as when someone bought it brand new when it was cutting edge. The fact that 2080s and 1080s are still going for a G note is outrageous.

I got a 1080Ti for like £300

 

[JA50N]

I got a 1080Ti for like £300

must be nice used groups are listing 900 GTXs for 500$ that is a 6year old card. I mean at this point I might be able to get my money back for my 1060 in my old CPU.

 

[geofelt]

Shortages will not stop until the mining craze goes away.
Possibly when Intel Xe graphics cards show up later this year, there will be sufficient supply.

 

[hotaru.hino]

Possibly when Intel Xe graphics cards show up later this year, there will be sufficient supply.

I would find it amusing if they turn out to be good, but nobody wants them anyway because "lol, it's an Intel GPU"

 

[fordongreeman]

What is TSMC?

 

[LordVile]

Shortages will not stop until the mining craze goes away.
Possibly when Intel Xe graphics cards show up later this year, there will be sufficient supply.

More when the pandemic slows down, with most places shut down or shut down when a case or two pops up it’s kinda hard to make anything at scale. All electronics are suffering from shortages now not just PC components