Question Will I need a bios update?

[Deepy]

I’m confused about bios updates so here’s my build so far https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/s6FK8M

 

[WildCard999]

Probably, contact Newegg and find out what BIOS version the board has. If it's too old or they don't know then swap it to a MSI MAX board which all of them have been updated for 3rd gen or get a MSI board such as the B450 Tomahawk that supports being able to flash the BIOS without a CPU.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE

 

[Deepy]

I’m probably going to go for the msi tomahawk since it is in my budget range. Thanks a lot for the help you just gave me all the information I need

 

[WildCard999]

Your welcome.

 

[jon96789]

I would STRONGLY recommend you avoid the MSi motherboards... They are known to have crappy voltage regulators except on their TOTL boards. The regulators overheat under load and can cause the CPU to throttle down in speed until it cools down... It might not be too bad for the CPU you chosen, but it would be a potential issue if you were to upgrade the CPU down the road. The low and mid-tier MSi boards cannot handle CPUs that draw more than 65 watts.

I would look at the ASUS Prime X570P or the ASROCK X570 Pro 4... Those boards run 50-60 degrees Celsius cooler than the MSi which hits about 115-125 degrees which is excessively hot...

 

[logainofhades]

Wasting money, on fluff, for the sake of performance, is never a good idea.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($274.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($364.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Total: $1202.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 16:54 EDT-0400

 

[TJ Hooker]

I would STRONGLY recommend you avoid the MSi motherboards... They are known to have crappy voltage regulators except on their TOTL boards. The regulators overheat under load and can cause the CPU to throttle down in speed until it cools down... It might not be too bad for the CPU you chosen, but it would be a potential issue if you were to upgrade the CPU down the road. The low and mid-tier MSi boards cannot handle CPUs that draw more than 65 watts.

I would look at the ASUS Prime X570P or the ASROCK X570 Pro 4... Those boards run 50-60 degrees Celsius cooler than the MSi which hits about 115-125 degrees which is excessively hot...

MSI had some of the best VRMs around for B450 boards. It's X570 where they seem to have dropped the ball.

 

[logainofhades]

MSI's B450 issues, right now, are bios stability related.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I really hope B550 comes out sooner rather than later, should make these recommendations a lot easier.

The current situation now is recommending an MSI B450 (with their associated BIOS issues), a non-MSI B450 (with the caveat that you may have to get someone to update the BIOS for you), or an X570 (which generally don't make sense in any semi budget-conscious build). And of course there's also the MSI Max boards, which seem to have terrible availability.

 

[logainofhades]

Asrock has a board, that has ryzen 3000 support, out of the box, now too.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450Mac/#CPU