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So I have a minor bottle neck with my A4 7210 and my GT 1030 and 4GB DDR3 ram, i get lots of stutter on open world games (such as GTA5, PUBG, Fortnite, Unturned, and DayZ,). and my frame rate isnt that good because of the bottleneck and i was wondering if upgrading to 8GB or even 16GB of ram would help my problem with the stuttering.
 
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What Motherboard are you using mate ? TBH the CPU is pretty low end and will struggle to play most modern titles. Are you playing on a 1080p 60 Hz monitor or something higher ?

EDIT: Just realised it s laptop :) Forget the screen & PSU info....
 
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In brief adding 4 or 12 GB of RAM isnt going to make any significant inroads to improving your gaming, i wouldnt think that the <5% improvement you would see would be worth the spend, especially with the price of RAM at the moment.

I would give consideration to a new PC mate, laptop or perhaps desktop if you want to play the AAA titles you have listed. If you need help with a new build let us know otherwise i dont think modifying that laptop would be worth it, for gaming.
 
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It isn't a laptop it is a Acer aspire TC-217. and it is new lol i didn't do much research before buying it and i regret that and i don't really want to spend $2000 on a new one considering this one already cost me $1000 6 months ago so i was hoping that i could make this one better with a few upgrades.
 
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i don't really want to spend $2000 on a new one considering this one already cost me $1000 6 months ago
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Are you talking US dollars? If so you got ripped off horribly, that system wouldn't have even been a good deal even at 500 USD.

You should be able to build a rig that blows that one out of the water for far less than $2000.
 
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No it was NDZ which is $655 usd
 
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I could have built you one better than that for $1000 and made profit on it. As far as that goes... Anyone could have. I'd say to return it but you're probably outside your return window. The computer is not worth that money. I'd say really it's only worth about $250. You're stuck with something that stinks and if I were you I'd try very hard to get my money back. If you sell it you might get $200. Nobody that knows computers would give much more than that. If you got it from walmart or something like that you can return it without the receipt but you'll only get a gift card. Still I'd rather have my money back on a gift card than have an awful product and no money.

Edit.. I just saw this isn't USD. Still it's a bad deal even at $655 USD. It's a bad deal in the US. I don't know about your country. Prices vary across different countries.
 
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Ah, OK. Still not a good deal based purely on the USD conversion, but I realize things often cost more in some places even after taking exchange rates into consideration. Could you provide a link to a good NZ PC components online store so that we could get an idea of the prices available to you?

I'm afraid others are right, any incremental upgrades you could make to that system would offer poor value for money.
 
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Probably the cheapest upgrade you could make that might still be worthwhile would be getting a Ryzen 3 + B450 motherboard + 8GB of DDR4 for ~500 NZD. Could keep the rest of your current system (including the GT 1030). Would still be a very low end gaming system due to the weak GPU, but at least you would get rid of the CPU bottleneck which would allow you to try to optimize performance by changing your graphics settings in games.
 
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So would I need a new motherbord?

and i have a 220w psu
 
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Yes, as far as I can tell your CPU is soldered to your motherboard and therefore not upgradeable without swapping out the motherboard.

220W would still be OK for the components I suggested, but you'd need to check if it has standard connectors. Sometimes pre-builts will use proprietary connectors that aren't compatible with off the shelf components, in which case you'd need a new PSU.

I can't find much information on the case/motherboard/PSU, so I can't tell if they use standard dimensions. It's possible that a standard motherboard and/or PSU won't fit in that case, which would mean you'd need a new case as well.

As you can see, upgrading a pre-built can be a hassle... The easiest thing would definitely be to just start a new build from scratch and only carry over the graphics card, but it sounds like you're on a budget so I thought I'd suggest saving a bit of cash on the case + PSU if possible.
 
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Here's what I'd do. Use what you have for now so you have a usable system.Then each month buy a new part or more if you can afford to. And eventually you'll have a new computer you can game on. Of course you'll have to build it. That's easy though. As long as you watch guides on youtube or something. You can do it. Anyone can really. Even if you had no income you could go on mturk or somewhere and do surveys to earn the money. My grandma used to always say if there's a will there's a way. It's true.
 
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That's probably a pretty modern PC in NZ, they only got electricity last year :) A little Aussie / NZ Humour :)

Happy to help you piece together a system mate, you may have blown your budget on your last build but if you change your mind and decide to invest you need to decide on a budget then either PM or just post a new thread and you will get heaps of support bud.
 
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If you are anywhere near Hamilton and interested in second hand I have a PC I dubbed Frankenbuild cobbled together from left over and new parts.
It's not very upgradeable either, the case is really cheap, and the RAM would have to be replaced completely to upgrade it. But it would be a huge improvement and cheap. Not sure if this is allowed here?

I can post specs and a price here so you can get other opinions on it if you're interested but I'm not home right now to get the actual part names. Some parts - case, PSU, Motherboard, are basically new and bought to ressurrect a dead PC that had some good parts in it. I won't get back what I spent on it and don't expect to.

Roughly
i5 3470
8GB DDR3
120GB SSD
USB 3 add in card to enable the front USB 3.0 port
Cheap and nasty graphics card (you'd use yours not this one)
No spare exapnsion slots - only has 2
4 SATA ports, 2 empty 3.5" bays but they are old style screw in ones with poor airflow
500W PSU

If any of that interests you let me know.
 
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Eh, not really the best idea IMO, unless he can save up to buy all three of CPU, mobo and RAM within a relatively short time frame. Otherwise the first components he buys will just sit there collecting dust, and then by the time he has purchased all three and can actually use them there may be new parts out (or at least better deals) compared to what he ended up with. For stuff that can be replaced one at a time (graphics card, PSU, case) your approach works better, but I'd say a CPU+mobo upgrade should probably be the first priority (assuming they'll work with his current case/PSU).
 
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Maybe a little. When you run out of ram the system will use the hard drive paging file. How this shows up in games is normally a pause every now and again while the hard drive goes nuts making the game stop and start, it can be at fairly regular intervals in some games and can stutter really badly if you keep playing while the drive is trying to catch up.

If that's happening to you more ram should even out the perfromance to be more consistent and let you achieve your maximum fps more of the time, but it will not improve what that max fps is and it will not help with the CPU bottleneck you are most likely running into.

I would personally not want to game with less than 8GB of RAM though.

The reason noboody is suggesting you do it is you won't be able to reuse that RAM if you do upgrade and it's likely the games will still play badly regardless.
If you can find some more RAM cheaply enough and want to try it then go for it, but don't expect too much improvement.
 
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