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I have a question for people out there. I played EQ for a while, then
stopped, mostly didn't have time to play. Well, I started again
recently and all the servers seem pretty empty. I upgraded my machine
over Christmas and was thinking about trying EQ2, since that seems to
be where people are going.

So, my question is, will my upgraded machine run it?

It's an Athlon 2000XP, 512M Ram, 128M nVidia 5500FX video card.

Is that enough to run the game decently? I know most of the bells and
whistles will be turned off, obviously, I just wonder if it can handle
it.

Thanks. And please, no 'screw EQ2 go with WoW or DAoC or whatever'
posts. Not interested in those, don't care about 'my game is better
than yours' flagwaving. :)
 
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:22:01 -0600, Kory Anders <koriandr@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I have a question for people out there. I played EQ for a while, then
>stopped, mostly didn't have time to play. Well, I started again
>recently and all the servers seem pretty empty. I upgraded my machine
>over Christmas and was thinking about trying EQ2, since that seems to
>be where people are going.
>
>So, my question is, will my upgraded machine run it?
>
>It's an Athlon 2000XP, 512M Ram, 128M nVidia 5500FX video card.
>
>Is that enough to run the game decently? I know most of the bells and
>whistles will be turned off, obviously, I just wonder if it can handle
>it.

I would recomend that you upgrade to 1gb of system ram. That will make
a big difference. The rest looks like it will run EQ2 fine. Not at the
highest resolution but very playable.

>Thanks. And please, no 'screw EQ2 go with WoW or DAoC or whatever'
>posts. Not interested in those, don't care about 'my game is better
>than yours' flagwaving. :)

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> Thanks. And please, no 'screw EQ2 go with WoW or DAoC or whatever'
> posts. Not interested in those, don't care about 'my game is better
> than yours' flagwaving. :)

go with DAOC or WoW. Why ? Cause EQ2 is booooorrrriiiiinnnnng
 
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"Kory Anders" <koriandr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2vqiu0d5e38f6ppdfuev7215mdqi7qjoau@4ax.com...
>I have a question for people out there. I played EQ for a while, then
> stopped, mostly didn't have time to play. Well, I started again
> recently and all the servers seem pretty empty. I upgraded my machine
> over Christmas and was thinking about trying EQ2, since that seems to
> be where people are going.
>
> So, my question is, will my upgraded machine run it?
>
> It's an Athlon 2000XP, 512M Ram, 128M nVidia 5500FX video card.
>
> Is that enough to run the game decently? I know most of the bells and
> whistles will be turned off, obviously, I just wonder if it can handle
> it.
>
> Thanks. And please, no 'screw EQ2 go with WoW or DAoC or whatever'
> posts. Not interested in those, don't care about 'my game is better
> than yours' flagwaving. :)

Upgrading to 1 gig of RAM should make EQ2 enjoyable for you.

As for EQ1 being empty, the Stromm server is thriving. I have 8 players on
there and there really hasn't been a noticeable dropoff in population.

Good luck what ever you decide to do!!

Lou
 
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Graeme Faelban wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that EQ2 has a memory leak of some kind, it generally

> grabs resources, and does not release them, until, over time, there
are
> none available.

Before EQ2's release, I would go for weeks between reboots on my
machine. Now I end up rebooting maybe once every couple of days if lag
gets really bad. I did have EQ2 crash while zoning once with a 'Out of
memory' error, and that is with 2Gb RAM. Made me laugh as I rebooted 😛
 
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On 2005-01-15, Lou Vincze <biglou@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> So, my question is, will my upgraded machine run it?
>>
>> It's an Athlon 2000XP, 512M Ram, 128M nVidia 5500FX video card.
>>
>> Is that enough to run the game decently? I know most of the bells and
>> whistles will be turned off, obviously, I just wonder if it can handle
>> it.

My girlfriend plays on her laptop at the moment (waiting on a motherboard
RMA to complete) which is a 512mb 1.6ghz pentium mobile with a 32mb
ATI card. It plays fine, with all the whistles turned off (very high
performance), but she takes significantly longer to zone, and suffers
'quit to desktop and restart' syndrome far more frequently than
I do on an XP3000 with 1gb of ram.

EQ2 has a notable memory leak of some kind that means after zoning a
few times in Qeynos it starts swapping to disk like crazy. With only
512mb this happens very quickly. It takes longer for me.

One thing worth noting is I have a 256mb 6800GT and, to be honest, while
I play with all the bells and whistles we have pretty similar frame
rates - the game is no less *playable* on her system, and the core
functionality (character graphics, spell effects) are all ok.

Matt
 
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Moopy <pingu@keg.zymurgy.org> wrote:
>
> EQ2 has a notable memory leak of some kind that means after zoning a
> few times in Qeynos it starts swapping to disk like crazy. With only
> 512mb this happens very quickly. It takes longer for me.
>

This is NOT an indication of a memory leak; at least not, in and of
itself. What you are probably seeing is "instance" bloat. The software
instantiates new software artificats in memory whenever you zone and
when it is done using it [for the time being], it still keeps it around.
It would be a leak if the software does not keep track of the utilized
RAM. It is a flaw in the code if their is no practical purpose in
keeping it around and yet it does it anyway. The difference between a
memory leak and this type of flaw is that you won't see memory usage
increase without bound with "instance bloat". The software still knows
about all of the memory, it is just not being concervative and returning
resources to be used for something else.

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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in news:41ebe7fe$0$96263
$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net:

> Moopy <pingu@keg.zymurgy.org> wrote:
>>
>> EQ2 has a notable memory leak of some kind that means after zoning a
>> few times in Qeynos it starts swapping to disk like crazy. With only
>> 512mb this happens very quickly. It takes longer for me.
>>
>
> This is NOT an indication of a memory leak; at least not, in and of
> itself. What you are probably seeing is "instance" bloat. The
software
> instantiates new software artificats in memory whenever you zone and
> when it is done using it [for the time being], it still keeps it
around.
> It would be a leak if the software does not keep track of the utilized
> RAM. It is a flaw in the code if their is no practical purpose in
> keeping it around and yet it does it anyway. The difference between a
> memory leak and this type of flaw is that you won't see memory usage
> increase without bound with "instance bloat". The software still knows
> about all of the memory, it is just not being concervative and
returning
> resources to be used for something else.
>

I'm pretty sure that EQ2 has a memory leak of some kind, it generally
grabs resources, and does not release them, until, over time, there are
none available.

--
On Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr>
Ancient Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Soothsayer of 70 seasons

On Steamfont in <Insanity Plea>
Graeme, 21 Dwarven Mystic, 20 Sage
 
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"Meaffwin" <suka_@cox.net> wrote in news:1105985648.150316.147220
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Graeme Faelban wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure that EQ2 has a memory leak of some kind, it generally
>
>> grabs resources, and does not release them, until, over time, there
>> are none available.
>
> Before EQ2's release, I would go for weeks between reboots on my
> machine. Now I end up rebooting maybe once every couple of days if lag
> gets really bad. I did have EQ2 crash while zoning once with a 'Out of
> memory' error, and that is with 2Gb RAM. Made me laugh as I rebooted 😛
>
>

Precisely, I am seeing the same issue, so I just reboot every day before I
start, and don't often run into the problem.

--
On Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr>
Ancient Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Soothsayer of 70 seasons

On Steamfont in <Insanity Plea>
Graeme, 21 Dwarven Mystic, 20 Sage
 
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Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure that EQ2 has a memory leak of some kind, it generally
> grabs resources, and does not release them, until, over time, there are
> none available.
>

I have not experienced this and I have played for several hours at a
time [and left background processes running as well]. Perhaps it is
your video driver giving you issues, or something else, but I can't
agree that there is a significant memory leak based upon my own
experience.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
Spammers please contact me at renegade@veldy.net.
 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in news:41efd1fc$0$95358
$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net:

> Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that EQ2 has a memory leak of some kind, it generally
>> grabs resources, and does not release them, until, over time, there
are
>> none available.
>>
>
> I have not experienced this and I have played for several hours at a
> time [and left background processes running as well]. Perhaps it is
> your video driver giving you issues, or something else, but I can't
> agree that there is a significant memory leak based upon my own
> experience.
>

I only have this problem with EQ2. I am not using an oddball card or
driver for my Radeon 9800. I find the problem particularly bad if I log
in and out of the game a few times without rebooting my system. I have
not encountered it from just playing for a few hours.

--
On Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr>
Ancient Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Soothsayer of 70 seasons

On Steamfont in <Insanity Plea>
Graeme, 21 Dwarven Mystic, 20 Sage
 
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When I tried EQ2 when it first came out, it required a memory card with
at lest 64 MB. I tried my laptop with 32 MB memory and it just said not
enough video memory and quit. How did you get it to work with only 32
MB? Did they remove that video memory restriction?

Moopy wrote:
> On 2005-01-15, Lou Vincze <biglou@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> So, my question is, will my upgraded machine run it?
> >>
> >> It's an Athlon 2000XP, 512M Ram, 128M nVidia 5500FX video card.
> >>
> >> Is that enough to run the game decently? I know most of the bells
and
> >> whistles will be turned off, obviously, I just wonder if it can
handle
> >> it.
>
> My girlfriend plays on her laptop at the moment (waiting on a
motherboard
> RMA to complete) which is a 512mb 1.6ghz pentium mobile with a 32mb
> ATI card. It plays fine, with all the whistles turned off (very high
> performance), but she takes significantly longer to zone, and suffers
> 'quit to desktop and restart' syndrome far more frequently than
> I do on an XP3000 with 1gb of ram.
>
> EQ2 has a notable memory leak of some kind that means after zoning a
> few times in Qeynos it starts swapping to disk like crazy. With only
> 512mb this happens very quickly. It takes longer for me.
>
> One thing worth noting is I have a 256mb 6800GT and, to be honest,
while
> I play with all the bells and whistles we have pretty similar frame
> rates - the game is no less *playable* on her system, and the core
> functionality (character graphics, spell effects) are all ok.
>
> Matt
 
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On 2005-01-20, Thomas T. Veldhouse <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that EQ2 has a memory leak of some kind, it generally
>> grabs resources, and does not release them, until, over time, there are
>> none available.
>>
>
> I have not experienced this and I have played for several hours at a
> time [and left background processes running as well]. Perhaps it is
> your video driver giving you issues, or something else, but I can't
> agree that there is a significant memory leak based upon my own
> experience.
>

Thats nice. The vast preponderence of people posting about the issue
on the EQ2 technical forumns having only this problem with EQ2 while
using differeing video cards, motherboards, CPU's and versions of
windows would suggest otherwise, however.

It appears to be zone specific in some ways; as I said, Qeynos harbour
is notably awful, and I never had the problem in freeport.

Im glad your system doesnt have any trouble though 😉

Matt
 
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