Will my rig be able to handle these GPU and which would be best?

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I need to upgrade my rig, i currently have an I5-3570K, Gigabyte GTX660 windforce, 8GB RAM, and an Asrock H61M HVS motherboard inside of an NZXT SOURCE 210 case. I want to upgrade to a 970 since it's a huge leap from this old 660 i have.

Ideally i would want the gigabyte G1 gtx970

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125684&cm_re=gigabyte_g1_970-_-14-125-684-_-Product

But i was worried about the compatibility with my computer, it has a length of 12.3 inches and my clearance on the case is 12.9 inches (330 mm) according to the nzxt website, so i think it would fit even though it'd be a little close. And it also says it needs one 6 pin and one 8 pin pci-e connector and my PSU only has two 6 pins, so i wonder if this GPU comes with an adaptor and would two 6 pins with one adapted to 8 be enough to power it? My gpu is also only 500watt, and even though nvidia website and newegg etc.. say 500watt the gigabyte site says 550 reccomended, so if i don't overclock would 500 be enough?

i'd really like to get that card if possible, but i can't afford to upgrade my PSU or anything since i only barely have enough for the card. If i can't get it here's 2 other one's i was considering

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899&cm_re=gtx970-_-14-121-899-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125706&cm_re=gtx970-_-14-125-706-_-Product

So i was curious if you could help me with the question of whether the card would work for my rig and if not which 970 would be better?
 
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I would doubt 500W would be enough, especially if Gigabyte states 550W. I would look at upgrading to a modular psu when you have the money. If you want the Gigabyte card.

The GIGABYTE GV-N970IXOC-4GD your PSU has enough power for. But you would need an 8 Pin connector.
 
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Would the 500 be enough to run for a few months until i can afford a better PSU if i don't overclock at all? I was looking at this article about the gigabyte G1 970 and it doesn't show it to have very huge tdp, it's almost the same as my 660. They're estimated tdp is ~150 with the gaming load at like 180 watts. Here's the article

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-970-g1-gaming-review,7.html
 
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What if i underclocked it from like the 1,150 base down to 1,050 until i could get a higher than 500w PSU? Would that make it safe? It wouldn't really bother me since even an underclocked 970 running at 90% power would give a major boost over my 660.
 
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well, like i mentioned i can't do that. I can't even afford the 970 until i sell some things this week, i won't be able to get a power suppy for a couple months or so. I've seen articles like the 3dguru one i linked showing that the card only uses ~175-180 watts under heavy load, and a thread from overclockers forum where people said a 500 would be fine so i'm getting completely contradictory information from different sites. To top things off my gtx660 just fried on me a couple hours ago, won't even start. So i lost the money i would've gotten from selling that unless i can manage to sell it for scrap, but i wouldn't know where to find a place like that in such a small town like mine.

#Bad Luck, Cursed, SMH
 
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xDarkxIdealsx - it's never about "total power draw" my friend. It's about pre-boot sequence, that every graphics card must go through. It draws it's top limits from PSU, and when PSU can't react, it doesn't start. There's a good chance You'll start GTX 970, since it eats very little power in all states, but being powered by Allied PSU is...like playing russian roulette with 12 bullets in chamber every single time You turn on Your computer.

You have very nice processor there [i5-3570K], 8 gigs of ram and a weaker motherboard, all in a value of about 200 - 230 euro, and You're willing to get 250-300 euro graphics card. That will be 500-530 euro sitting on TNT called Allied PSU. If You're about to risk it "be my guest", I wouldn't, not 3570K, and definitely not GTX 970. These two components are the most valuable pieces of Your current and future hardware in Your rig, sitting like a duck in the middle of the pond waiting to get shot by a hunter.

I've checked the sticker of this PSU, it can deliver 2 x 15A combined on both 12V PCi-e rails, that's 180Watts per rail, in reality, this PSU can do more like 130-150 Watts. So those are the numbers You're working with with one rail. If You get GTX 970 with 2 x 6 pin, You're "good", power-wise, not quality-wise.

P.S.: Do You have the polish version? [from Poland?] where "uwaga! grózba poraźnenia" is written and stuff? That particular "edition" might be extra trouble.
 
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I've read that what with multi-rail's protection from frying your stuff it would just turn off my pc instead of breaking the equipment, so i didn't think it would be that dangerous.

Nope, it's an american version, and it says 18 volt per +12v rail rated at 216 watts for each rail so it must be a different one than the sticker you saw. Would this make a difference?

How about the Asus Strix 970? It requires just a single 8 pin apparently, i'm trying to get the best possible 970 that will be ok with this psu for a couple months till i can get a new one even if i have to underclock it or something all the time till then.
 
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http:// (this is the power supply)

What do you mean by "she whistles" though? Are you talking about coil whine? And would the fact that it needs a single 8 pin be a problem since my psu only has 2 6 pins? I just want to make sure i have the best 970 i can, i REALLY wanted the gigabyte but i can't afford a new psu and honestly aren't so knowledgable as to know how to replace and install one so i'd probably have to take it in. My budget is quite limited, but is there a real cheap psu that would allow me to use the gigabyte 970? like if this alliance was 550 or 600 would it work?
 
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Do you know which 970's use two 6 pins? And what would be the cheapest power supply you would reccomend to be able to run a 970 with 1 8 pin and 1 6 pin like the gigabyte?

(sorry for asking so many questions, i just want to make absolutely sure i don't screw things up)
 
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Hmm, i've heard of problems with the EVGA one, so that's a bit worrisome. I'd really rather go with gigabyte or Asus but the strix uses an 8 pin.

What about the Gigabyte mini-itx one? It only has a 400 watt psu requirement but does use one single 8 pin PCI-E connector.

 
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

There's several people in the Q&A on newegg saying it's a single 8 pin

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/2

Look at the side of it in the photos here, it shows an 8 pin

Idk if they changed it recently or something, because i did see this quoted in a forum

"ASUS has also trimmed the standard 2 x 6-pin PCI-E power connections down to a single 8-pin one, which has an LED to tell you when your cable is correctly connected and working. This design makes cable management easier, but there's a chance it could negatively impact the card's overclocking potential.


If it is an 8 pin on the strix would using the dual 6 pin to 8 pin adapter you linked work with my PSU? Would the mini-itx gigabyte 970 be unusable with an 8 pin adapter as well even though gigabyte says only 400w PSU reccomended?
 
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Ok, that's good thanks :)

What do you think of this PSU

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Standard-Bronze-ATX12V-SP-550P/dp/B00BUM178Q/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1417038352&sr=1-8&keywords=550w+psu

It's 550w 80+ bronze, has two 6+2 = 8 pin connectors, would this run the gigabyte g1?

Or perhaps this one, since it's EVGA it's a better brand, but it's only 500w 80+ bronze

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1417038352&sr=1-2&keywords=550w+psu
 
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Yeah i don't think i can push my budget any more at this point, with the gigabyte g1 gtx970, the $50 thermaltake 550w psu, and shipping i'm at $435 cost, i only have about $200 on me at the moment, with $100 more coming by end of the year, so i'm essentially going to have to persuade my father to lend me $235 and pay him $100 back by end of year and write the rest of as a christmas gift lol.

So just to make sure, if i used the thermaltake 550w 80+ bronze one, which has 2 8 pin adapters, and i plugged in the one 8 pin to the gigabyte card and then used an 8 pin to 6 pin adapter to plug into the one 6 pin slot on the card it would work without endangering my sytem much as long as i don't overclock right? (i don't plan on doing any overclocking for quite some time honestly)

 
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I'm not quite understanding what you mean, but now that i look at the specs for that psu again i don't think i would need an adapter. The psu has two 6+2 pci-e connectors, rather than actual single piece of plastic 8 pin. The gigabyte g1 gaming 970 gpu has 2 pci-e plugins, it needs one 6 pin and one 8 pin to run, so i could just plug in the 6+2 together into the 8 pin slot and then just plug in the 6 without the extra 2 pin side piece into the gpu's 6 pin slot.
 
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