[SOLVED] Will my Ryzen 5 3600 have enough RAM to run smoothly?

[isilen]

Im buying a new gaming setup and I don't know if this will be enough ram for a Ryzen 5 3600. Also does this pcpartpicker list look ok?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpHG7W

 

[Shektron]

Faster memory, much faster RAM. Get 3200 MHz, and overclock it as much as you can. Also, why do you have so many modules, and why are they different? Firstly, buy a proper kit, like 2 x 8 GB or 2 x 4 GB. Get either 8 GB or 16 GB, for gaming 16 GB is enough, no need for 24 GB. Get the 3200 MHz kit like I said.

You missed storage in the list, do you already have it? Get a better power supply.

Tell us your budget, we'll build a more balanced system for you.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Use one kit of ram, not 2. Also, use 3200mhz or faster. 16gb is fine
Also, that psu is bad so i highly suggest you get a better one.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $199.00 @ B&H
Motherboard | MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard | $114.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card | $199.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case | $44.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $59.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $733.85
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $693.85
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 23:01 EDT-0400 |

 

[Shektron]

For about a $750 budget, this system would be pretty nice(assuming you have storage):

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $743.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 23:03 EDT-0400

 

[isilen]

This is my setup right now and I'm trying to upgrade it. Can I not use the RAM I already have with the new RAM I'm getting? The upgrade I'm trying to get is supposed to be around 500$. The Tomahawk b450 says:

• Supports DDR4 Memory, up to 3466(OC) MHz

I already have the RX580, the 2x4gb of RAM, and the 1TB storage.

My setup at the moment: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4rpyJ8

 

[Shektron]

You shouldn't mix and match different RAM modules - they sometimes wouldn't work well with each other and cause issues. Plus, Ryzen CPU's will not be happy with 2400 MHz RAM, it'll limit performance significantly. MY recommendation would be to sell your current RAM as well, because you should get at least 3200 MHz RAM for a Ryzen 3000 CPU. It is technically compatible, but performance will be adversely affected. You can use the RX 580. Buy the CPU, motherboard, RAM, case and PSU, it comes to $488, plus you can sell your RAM to maybe buy an SSD, that will be a good upgrade too.

This is what I mean:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $523.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 23:45 EDT-0400

 

[isilen]

So having that old RAM will probably mess up my system somehow? Is 16gb of RAM enough for gaming or should I buy another 16gb? If I upgrade my RAM in the future what RAM would I choose so they work good together?

 

[cryoburner]

Games have only started to want more than 8GB fairly recently, so I suspect 16GB should be plenty for games getting released over the next couple years, if not longer, so long as you don't leave memory-hungry applications like web browsers open while gaming. With current games, you are unlikely to see any performance benefit from having more than 8GB 16GB of RAM, and it's something that can be upgraded later, when needed.

 

[Shektron]

So having that old RAM will probably mess up my system somehow? Is 16gb of RAM enough for gaming or should I buy another 16gb? If I upgrade my RAM in the future what RAM would I choose so they work good together?

16 is enough, as already mentioned. No need for 32 GB unless you do serious productivity work on your PC that needs 32 gigs, games are happy with 16 GB as of now.

 

[isilen]

Which one should I buy?
https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331066?Item=N82E16820331066
or
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?Item=N82E16820231941 (thinking about buying this one)

 

[sizzling]

So having that old RAM will probably mess up my system somehow? Is 16gb of RAM enough for gaming or should I buy another 16gb? If I upgrade my RAM in the future what RAM would I choose so they work good together?

That is a bad plan. RAM is only guaranteed in the form it is sold. Buying 16gb now and adding 16gb later could have issues even if you buy the exact same RAM. If you want 32gb (highly unlikely you need it) then buy a 2x16gb or 4x8gb kit, ideally 2x16gb. Buying 2x8gb now and 2x8gb later may have issues.

 

[Shektron]

Which one should I buy?
https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331066?Item=N82E16820331066
or
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?Item=N82E16820231941 (thinking about buying this one)

Either is fine, buy whichever matches your system's colors .

 

[valeman2012]

i think this is because of the motherboard. i would suggest get a new x470 and update the bios or get x570.

Im buying a new gaming setup and I don't know if this will be enough ram for a Ryzen 5 3600. Also does this pcpartpicker list look ok?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpHG7W

You shouldn't mix and match different RAM modules - they sometimes wouldn't work well with each other and cause issues. Plus, Ryzen CPU's will not be happy with 2400 MHz RAM, it'll limit performance significantly. MY recommendation would be to sell your current RAM as well, because you should get at least 3200 MHz RAM for a Ryzen 3000 CPU. It is technically compatible, but performance will be adversely affected. You can use the RX 580. Buy the CPU, motherboard, RAM, case and PSU, it comes to $488, plus you can sell your RAM to maybe buy an SSD, that will be a good upgrade too.

This is what I mean:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $523.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 23:45 EDT-0400

I am here to notify you if you don`t have any 2nd Gen Ryzen processors to upgrade bios for that B450. The Ryzen 3rd Gen Processors might not work due to outdated Bios version.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I am here to notify you if you don`t have any 2nd Gen Ryzen processors to upgrade bios for that B450. The Ryzen 3rd Gen Processors might not work due to outdated Bios version.

The motherboard they're getting can update the BIOS even without a supported CPU installed.

 

[valeman2012]

The motherboard they're getting can update the BIOS even without a supported CPU installed.

I know they have that feature, but what issues they will for MSI having that feature?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

All you have to do is grab a usb stick and plug it into another pc. Download the latest bios file onto the drive and Rename the file to msi.rom.

Plug the drive into the board. Push a button. As long as the board has power it will work. No 2nd gen cpu needed.

Relatively painless. No isssues should arise if the file is named propeely and the usb stick is formatted correctly. All of this is explained in the msi b450 tomahawk manual.

 

[cryoburner]

With current games, you are unlikely to see any performance benefit from having more than 8GB of RAM, and it's something that can be upgraded later, when needed.

No one corrected me on this? : D

I meant to say "16GB" there, but repeated "8GB" from earlier in the post. Yes, you'll want at least 16GB for a mid-range gaming system at this point. That tends to be a good amount for gaming systems around this price range. Any more than that, and the benefits are likely to be limited for some years to come.

And while adding RAM later can potentially result in compatibility issues, more often than not it should work fine, so long as you are getting RAM with the same specifications.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Tbh, if you run nothing in the background while gaming, 8gb is enough for the vast majority of gamed.

 

[cryoburner]

Tbh, if you run nothing in the background while gaming, 8gb is enough for the vast majority of gamed.

Perhaps, but we're definitely at the point where some games perform best with more, and that's only going to become more common over time. Considering 16GB of RAM only costs around $30 more than 8GB now, there isn't much point in going with 8GB unless one has an extremely low budget to work with.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Agree^