Will overclocking solve my stutter?

[eflam]

Hello,

Essentially right now I am having an issue where when I play League of Legends and Overwatch my fps is stuttering when there is a lot going on. In lol I usually get around 150~ fps idle and it can drop to around 45 in big fights and in Overwatch it is around 80~ idle dropping to maybe 50 in fights. This stutter is a huge annoyance and I am wondering if:

A) Overclocking will fix this problem
B) If yes is my system safe overclock and what utility should I use to do it?

I have no experience Overclocking so feel free to be as simple as possible in any answers. I monitor my GPU and CPU temperatures using GPU temp and core temp and they are usually around 51 and 37 which I think is reasonably low (?)

My Rig

AMD FX 6300- 6 core 3.5Ghz
CM hyper 212 evo heat sink
ASUS 970 PRO GAMING/AURA ATX DDR3 AM3 Motherboard
Corsair Carbide Series 100R Mid Tower Case
16Gb ddr3 DIMM ram (4 sticks total)
Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial-ATA Internal OEM Optical Drive DRW-24B1ST
XFX Double D R9 270 925MHz Boost 2GB DDR5 DP HDMI 2XDVI Graphics Card
Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive
PNY CS1311 120GB 2.5" SATA III Internal Solid State Drive
Windows 10 OS

I also have a PCI sound card and WLAN card.

It seems like this computer should be able to run these games without stutter so I am confused. I just put it together after replacing a few parts a week ago so everything is clean and installed correctly. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Shawn

 

[theyeti87]

Try enabling vertical sync in your games and see if that reduces studdering.

Your CPU is your weak link in your system, but OW and LoL shouldn't cripple that CPU by any means, or your GPU for that matter.

 

[eflam]

Try enabling vertical sync in your games and see if that reduces studdering.

Your CPU is your weak link in your system, but OW and LoL shouldn't cripple that CPU by any means, or your GPU for that matter.

I will try that and get back to you, thanks for the suggestion

 

[Ryan_78]

Lol should run without stutter. If it comes so much that your eye sees bad frames when you drop to 50 fps or so I mean it's little.
Anyways you can safely overclock that CPU fine. 212 EVO is a great cooler and board is good. I presume that it will go up to 4.5 ghz no problem, and that's a moderate high overclock. And yes it will help tremendously with your fps. And greatly increase your overall performance.
Use either AMD overdrive or bios and bump it to 3.9 or 4.2 ghz and set loadline calibration or LLC to high. Stress test with Intel burn test for very high
Then raise to 4.5 and see if it boots, and stress test again. If it passes, start slowly dropping the voltage and testing, to get it to the lowest possible voltage with LLC of high or extreme. That way, it will take less power on idle and use more when needed.

Also turn off turbo boost (core performance boost), C1E, C6 and APM and all the power saving features on the bios, found under advanced core features or something.

Keep core temps under 70C,
When detecting temps, always use AMD overdrive. It is most accurate. The thermal margin is displayed, and it is 70C- current temp. So it is safe to use it all up. Keep it away from negative though. Voltages are safe under 1.45 when llc is high

 

[eflam]

I tried a game of overwatch and it was different but I hesitate to say better. In general the game capped at 60 which made it appear slightly less choppy at max load but much more choppy at idle-medium load. I don't think V-sync was the solution but thanks for the suggestion

 

[eflam]

Lol should run without stutter. If it comes so much that your eye sees bad frames when you drop to 50 fps or so I mean it's little.
Anyways you can safely overclock that CPU fine. 212 EVO is a great cooler and board is good. I presume that it will go up to 4.5 ghz no problem, and that's a moderate high overclock. And yes it will help tremendously with your fps. And greatly increase your overall performance.
Use either AMD overdrive or bios and bump it to 3.9 or 4.2 ghz and set loadline calibration or LLC to high. Stress test with Intel burn test for very high
Then raise to 4.5 and see if it boots, and stress test again. If it passes, start slowly dropping the voltage and testing, to get it to the lowest possible voltage with LLC of high or extreme. That way, it will take less power on idle and use more when needed.

Also turn off turbo boost (core performance boost), C1E, C6 and APM and all the power saving features on the bios, found under advanced core features or something.

Keep core temps under 70C,
When detecting temps, always use AMD overdrive. It is most accurate. The thermal margin is displayed, and it is 70C- current temp. So it is safe to use it all up. Keep it away from negative though. Voltages are safe under 1.45 when llc is high

I will try this now, thank you

 

[MarkW]

Got a nice GPU, and a very weak CPU. CPU feeds the data to the GPU. If it cannot get the data to the GPU fast enough, GPU has to sit there waiting since it cannot predict what the data will be.

If your motherboard supports the FX 8320 or 8350, upgrade to it. Both of those CPU's are stronger than what you have now. But at some point in the next year or 2, you are going to need to invest in a stronger CPU to keep up with the newer games. At least by then, AMD should have a competitive series of CPU's on the market. Your best choice though is an Intel I5 CPU and motherboard.

 

[eflam]

Got a nice GPU, and a very weak CPU. CPU feeds the data to the GPU. If it cannot get the data to the GPU fast enough, GPU has to sit there waiting since it cannot predict what the data will be.

If your motherboard supports the FX 8320 or 8350, upgrade to it. Both of those CPU's are stronger than what you have now. But at some point in the next year or 2, you are going to need to invest in a stronger CPU to keep up with the newer games. At least by then, AMD should have a competitive series of CPU's on the market. Your best choice though is an Intel I5 CPU and motherboard.

Could you clarify what makes the 6300 very weak? On CPUboss (which may or may not be an effective method for determining power) both the 6300 and the 8320 you mentioned received a 5.8 and 5.7 score with similar benchmarks.

 

[eflam]

Lol should run without stutter. If it comes so much that your eye sees bad frames when you drop to 50 fps or so I mean it's little.
Anyways you can safely overclock that CPU fine. 212 EVO is a great cooler and board is good. I presume that it will go up to 4.5 ghz no problem, and that's a moderate high overclock. And yes it will help tremendously with your fps. And greatly increase your overall performance.
Use either AMD overdrive or bios and bump it to 3.9 or 4.2 ghz and set loadline calibration or LLC to high. Stress test with Intel burn test for very high
Then raise to 4.5 and see if it boots, and stress test again. If it passes, start slowly dropping the voltage and testing, to get it to the lowest possible voltage with LLC of high or extreme. That way, it will take less power on idle and use more when needed.

Also turn off turbo boost (core performance boost), C1E, C6 and APM and all the power saving features on the bios, found under advanced core features or something.

Keep core temps under 70C,
When detecting temps, always use AMD overdrive. It is most accurate. The thermal margin is displayed, and it is 70C- current temp. So it is safe to use it all up. Keep it away from negative though. Voltages are safe under 1.45 when llc is high

So I am using AMD overdrive and boosting it 20x to get it to 4.0Ghz and both times I have tried my computer has crashed instantly. Am I doing something wrong here?

 

[Ryan_78]

then reset overdrive and do a bios overclock.
turn LLC on medium and manually set vo,tage to 1.4v
and then save and exit bios and boot

 

[eflam]

Im sort of hesitant to raise the voltage on the bios because it uses a weird increment for it and I dont want to cause any damage. AMD overdrive is stable up to 3.9 however which has shown a small but noticeable improvement. I might come back to this but for now I think I'm okay with that thanks for the help ryan

 

[Ryan_78]

Okay cheers. Most vishera chips could go 400 MHz with stock voltage fine.
If you were to go for 4.2 or above, voltage should be 1.4-1.45
1.55v is max AMD engineered for chips. But still that's too much and will cause damage to chip.

And by no means is the fx 6300 an extremely weak chip. These chips match the newer i3s when overclocked and will outperform in multithreaded tasks. It's an i5 with less single core, when you overclock to 4.5 or so. On older apps. Speed doesn't replace extremely low IPC and missing instruction though.
It's like thuban cores. The X6 1100T BE overclocked to 4.2 ghz will match the 3770k on stock speed on older apps where the instructions are older.
Really depends on what you do. Old or new. OC or not, low or high IPC.
Depends on the app

And the 7850/270 will not cause a CPU bottleneck. It's a great match. Heck i an
M paring my 4300 with a 7970/280x and its fine. Slight limitation by CPU but nothing major. The fx series aren't so bad that they will cause the Tahiti and stuff to be bottlebecked, just limited. Not exactly the same thing. Bottleneck is overused.

 

[eflam]

Okay cheers. Most vishera chips could go 400 MHz with stock voltage fine.
If you were to go for 4.2 or above, voltage should be 1.4-1.45
1.55v is max AMD engineered for chips. But still that's too much and will cause damage to chip.

And by no means is the fx 6300 an extremely weak chip. These chips match the newer i3s when overclocked and will outperform in multithreaded tasks. It's an i5 with less single core, when you overclock to 4.5 or so. On older apps. Speed doesn't replace extremely low IPC and missing instruction though.
It's like thuban cores. The X6 1100T BE overclocked to 4.2 ghz will match the 3770k on stock speed on older apps where the instructions are older.
Really depends on what you do. Old or new. OC or not, low or high IPC.
Depends on the app

And the 7850/270 will not cause a CPU bottleneck. It's a great match. Heck i an
M paring my 4300 with a 7970/280x and its fine. Slight limitation by CPU but nothing major. The fx series aren't so bad that they will cause the Tahiti and stuff to be bottlebecked, just limited. Not exactly the same thing. Bottleneck is overused.

I actually just looked up a great video on bios overclocking and now I have it running at 4.3 with 1.4 volts no problems and stuttering is completely fixed as far as I can see. I will run a stress test to make sure but I believe it maxed out under load at 73 degrees which would be fine. Thanks again for the help problem solved

 

[Ryan_78]

umm 73C isn't fine.
use AMD overdrive and see how far the thermal margin goes. 73C is 3 degrees celcius higher than MAX temp