Will Radeon R7 250 create bottleneck?

[Twistofate4u]

Hi all,
This is my first post here.
I'm creating my general purpose desktop for moderate, non-commercial usage of Photoshop, occasional video editing here & there and some non-hardcore gaming too.
Impatient to play GTA 5 on it.

My specs:
Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R7 250 (Yet to buy)
Intel Core i7-4790k.
Msi z97s SLI Krait Edition
1x8gb ddr3 Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz
Corsair Vs650 (650w PSU)
Corsair Carbide series Spec 03.

Someone on Youtube comments section said that my system will be severely bottlenecked by R7 250.

I'm on an already stretched budget.
What are your opinions on the above configuration?

 

[de5_Roy]

by bottlenecking means that the gfx card will be under powered for higher resolutions. the cpu won't be a limitation.

instead of a single dimm, get a dual channel kit from the memory support list (QVL).
try using this:
http://www.corsair.com/en/memory-finder
then crosscheck with the qvl.

get a better power supply even if you use low power parts.

if you're budget limited, save up.

 

[davidarad02]

no, this GPU is nowhere close to beeing bottlenecked. heck, you could load this CPU with 2 980 tis, and there is still not going to be a bottleneck...
while there is no bottleneck, I wont rush and game on the thing. it is not that fast of a GPU, and I would even say. "downgrade" your i7 to the intel xeon e3 1231 v3, and get a better GPU. the xeon is about as fast as the i7, its just that it doesnt have any integrated video, so its cheaper, and with that extra money you can get a much beter GPU for all of your GTAV needs.

 

[Twistofate4u]

by bottlenecking means that the gfx card will be under powered for higher resolutions. the cpu won't be a limitation.

instead of a single dimm, get a dual channel kit from the memory support list (QVL).
try using this:
http://www.corsair.com/en/memory-finder
then crosscheck with the qvl.

get a better power supply even if you use low power parts.

if you're budget limited, save up.

Thank you for your response. I shall look into it.

 

[Twistofate4u]

no, this GPU is nowhere close to beeing bottlenecked. heck, you could load this CPU with 2 980 tis, and there is still not going to be a bottleneck...
while there is no bottleneck, I wont rush and game on the thing. it is not that fast of a GPU, and I would even say. "downgrade" your i7 to the intel xeon e3 1231 v3, and get a better GPU. the xeon is about as fast as the i7, its just that it doesnt have any integrated video, so its cheaper, and with that extra money you can get a much beter GPU for all of your GTAV needs.

Thanks dude, but I've already purchased the i7.
Is R7 really that bad for light gaming?

 

[de5_Roy]

Thanks dude, but I've already purchased the i7.
Is R7 really that bad for light gaming?

not at all.

 

[Twistofate4u]

instead of a single dimm, get a dual channel kit from the memory support list (QVL).
try using this:
http://www.corsair.com/en/memory-finder
then crosscheck with the qvl..

Thanks for the link
I plan on adding another 8gb soon.
Still confused about the gpu though.

 

[de5_Roy]

Thanks for the link
I plan on adding another 8gb soon.
Still confused about the gpu though.

start with a kit - far less risk with validated kit for dual channel operation.

 

[Karadjgne]

The r7 250 is the same gpu as what a better amd APU like the a8-a10 series use for an igpu.

In common terminology, a bottleneck is a component that reduces the flow of information to the gpu, realistically preventing the gpu from operating at full available capacity. Considering that cpus almost never run at flat out 100% capacity, the size of what's left over is really a moot point. The only bottleneck would be if the cpu was an old pentium, for instance, and the game capable of making the gpu use 100% capacity, yet the cpu being slow enough to prevent that. There isn't a publicly available gpu for a pc made that can fully utilize the information capacity of an i7-4790k.

As far as a r7 250 goes, there are many games that at 1080p will overpower it, requiring most games to be played at lower than ultra settings, as that card simply doesn't have the power necessary to get all that info up on the screen fast enough to keep good frames. 30fps at medium-low is much preferable to 3fps at ultra.

 

[de5_Roy]

if you're open to gfx card options,
Best Budget Graphics Cards - Entry-Level GPUs
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-2.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html

 

[Twistofate4u]

The r7 250 is the same gpu as what a better amd APU like the a8-a10 series use for an igpu.

In common terminology, a bottleneck is a component that reduces the flow of information to the gpu, realistically preventing the gpu from operating at full available capacity. Considering that cpus almost never run at flat out 100% capacity, the size of what's left over is really a moot point. The only bottleneck would be if the cpu was an old pentium, for instance, and the game capable of making the gpu use 100% capacity, yet the cpu being slow enough to prevent that. There isn't a publicly available gpu for a pc made that can fully utilize the information capacity of an i7-4790k.

As far as a r7 250 goes, there are many games that at 1080p will overpower it, requiring most games to be played at lower than ultra settings, as that card simply doesn't have the power necessary to get all that info up on the screen fast enough to keep good frames. 30fps at medium-low is much preferable to 3fps at ultra.

That was simply put & very well explained .... much thanks

 

[Twistofate4u]

if you're open to gfx card options,
Best Budget Graphics Cards - Entry-Level GPUs
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-2.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html

Thanks for sharing those links dude .... helped me much.
I guess I can try and stretch my already stretched out budget some more and choose one among those GPUs.

After filtering, I have to decide between these two (Hope these are fine options to choose from):
GeForce Gtx 750ti or Radeon R7 260x

PS: GTX 750ti just needs a 300W PSU, does that mean I can choose a PSU of 550w or 600W instead of a 650W?

 

[de5_Roy]

Thanks for sharing those links dude .... helped me much.
I guess I can try and stretch my already stretched out budget some more and choose one among those GPUs.

After filtering, I have to decide between these two (Hope these are fine options to choose from):
GeForce Gtx 750ti or Radeon R7 260x

PS: GTX 750ti just needs a 300W PSU, does that mean I can choose a PSU of 550w or 600W instead of a 650W?

you can choose one of those regardless. it depends on psu quality and performance. a good quality, 80+ gold rated 550w psu will be better than a non 80+ rated, 550-650w or any low quality psu. your current configuration can actually run off a high quality 80+ gold rated 450w power supply.

the corsair vs psu can run it. but it is, by design, an entry level unit and you can get a better one like seasonic s12g 550. pcpartpicker has it listed cheaper than the s12g 450.

 

[Karadjgne]

500, 600, 700, 800, 900w psu's are pretty much going to be mediocre at absolute best, with strong chances of garbage.

 

[Twistofate4u]

Thanks a ton guys 🙂
Apart from the graphic card I was also confused between these 2 Mobos :-D

MSI Z97S SLI KRAIT EDITION, or
ASUS Z97-PRO GAMER.

Which one would be a better pick in terms of overall performance and longevity?

 

[Karadjgne]

Both excellent mobo's. Both about the same quality. What you need to decide is what suits your needs better.

Fan headers, USB ports, software! (I prefer Asus bios, its easier to navigate and understand for OC, msi is a little more specific. Asus fan software is by far the best) and, of course, when dealing with boards of this quality, the absolute most important aspect..... Color scheme.

 

[Twistofate4u]

Both excellent mobo's. Both about the same quality. What you need to decide is what suits your needs better.

Fan headers, USB ports, software! (I prefer Asus bios, its easier to navigate and understand for OC, msi is a little more specific. Asus fan software is by far the best) and, of course, when dealing with boards of this quality, the absolute most important aspect..... Color scheme.

Thanks dude, I've never done overclocking and was inclined towards MSI for their integrated OC Genie which as I understand is a one touch solution to overclocking.
But i'll go with Asus as it's more reliable of mobo maker

 

[de5_Roy]

Thanks dude, I've never done overclocking and was inclined towards MSI for their integrated OC Genie which as I understand is a one touch solution to overclocking.
But i'll go with Asus as it's more reliable of mobo maker

if you don't know how to overclock, then don't do it until you've gained some solid kowledge on how to do so. motherboard's auto overclock isn't reliable. overclocking is unpredictable as every cpu behaves differently when you push them beyond factory spec. what motherboard vendors do is that set a fixed algorithm to push every cpu regardless of their individual characteristic which often results in excessive voltage input to gain a stable overclock. manual overclocking is much better, often results in use of much less aggressive settings to get the same results. check the forum's overclocking section for details. also check out the motherboard reviews at toms motherboards section.

 

[Karadjgne]

All of the major brands have some sort of auto OC, like OC genie, but it's one of things that if you are honest about OC, should never be used. Sorta like the traction control button in a new car.
Learn to OC, its better, more reliable, safer and you'll end up with a far greater working knowledge of your pc. Which is a good thing.