Will the Corsair H60 Fit in my PC?

[David_166]

Ok so I know I went a lil overkill with the liquid cooler but I wanted something really good (Corsair h60) and Im wondering if this liquid cooler will fit inside by computer?

Rig

Case:Fractal core 1000
GPU: R9 270X OC SAPPHIRE DUAL-X
CPU:Amd Athlon x4 860k
RAM:8GB corsair vengance
Storage: 1TB
Motherboard: F2A68HM (FM2+ Socket)

 

[Ecky]

Frankly, it doesn't perform any better than a low to mid-end tower air cooler. Watercoolers are usually a poor value. It'll fit though.

 

[jdcranke07]

Ok so I know I went a lil overkill with the liquid cooler but I wanted something really good (Corsair h60) and Im wondering if this liquid cooler will fit inside by computer?

Rig

Case:Fractal core 1000
GPU: R9 270X OC SAPPHIRE DUAL-X
CPU:Amd Athlon x4 860k
RAM:8GB corsair vengance
Storage: 1TB
Motherboard: F2A68HM (FM2+ Socket)

The problem, that I see, if you really want that All-in-one (AIO) liquid cooler, is that you will need to mount the radiator to the front or the side panel since the rear fan spot (typically most optimal mounting position) is too small at 92mm. The H60 radiator needs to be mounted on a 120mm spot.

 

[jdcranke07]

Frankly, it doesn't perform any better than a low to mid-end tower air cooler. Watercoolers are usually a poor value. It'll fit though.

This is arguable and based on personal preference for performance and aesthetics. For example, you are correct that mid to high end air coolers can be comparable, but this is usually with higher fan rpms which in turn means more noise. With AIO coolers, you don't always need the fan to spin at higher rpms. This will keep noise levels down, but this isn't the main reason to get an AIO. AIO coolers should be used if you can't or don't want to try and fit a cooler that stands off the CPU socket and/or if you want certain looks within your build.

 

[Ecky]

You have it backward. Noctua's and Cryorig's lines of heatsinks generally produce similar or better cooling results than high-end AiO coolers but with less noise and at a lower price.

Check out HardOCP's cooler roundup: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/11/24/corsair_h60_aio_cpu_cooling_system_update_review/3

Generally speaking, AiO coolers are pretty low on the list of cooling ability : noise : price.

 

[jdcranke07]

You have it backward. Noctua's and Cryorig's lines of heatsinks generally produce similar or better cooling results than high-end AiO coolers but with less noise and at a lower price.

Check out HardOCP's cooler roundup: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/11/24/corsair_h60_aio_cpu_cooling_system_update_review/3

Generally speaking, AiO coolers are pretty low on the list of cooling ability : noise : price.

Okay, so your evidence proves my side of the argument here. You failed to understand that the article was comparing all of those coolers to the H60. Granted the OP is asking about the H60; however, your argument is false when generalizing all AIO coolers. In case, you didn't realize, ALL of the AIO coolers and high end air coolers performed about the same at stock speeds. This supports my argument that AIO coolers should be considered for higher end overclocking (to which air cannot touch - has been proven), for aesthetics, or for use where a clearance issue is at hand for an air CPU cooler within a case (rare, but can happen).

The H60 is not part of the higher end AIO coolers and does lack a bit in the cooling sector when comparing to high end air coolers. But, this is because it has a thinner radiator than the other AIO coolers. But, I would still recommend this, if the OP wants to have a particular look and/or performance factor. I know from experience that an AIO can greatly reduce the overall temp in the case as well. This is because the heat isn't just dumped into the case, but is blown out through an exhaust fan setup. If you have BSODs due to heat making your memory overheat, then an AIO and swapping to better case fans is the best solution. The only downside to AIOs is that they can cost quite a bit more than air coolers and certain brands have pumps that will cause more noise than others, but this does not change the fact that your argument is invalid and you only proved my side of it. Thanks for your effort though.

 

[Ecky]

1) Just in case you didn't read it, the article included an overclocked 4770 in addition to a stock speed one.

2) The H60 performs third from worst on the list.

3) The H60 is louder than any air cooler in the list.

4) The H60 is more expensive than all of the air coolers on the list other than the Noctua D15.

The only reason to buy an AiO cooler is for some sense of aesthetic. Generally speaking, they're more expensive and more noisy for the cooling they give.

EDIT: It's pretty straightforward. AiO coolers are necesarily worse values than air coolers because in cooling, all that really matters is surface area. With an AiO cooler you're paying for a pump, waterblock, tubing and coolant in addition to the radiator (cooling surface) so their price😛erformance is necessarily worse. Insult to injury is that pumps often dump a pretty significant amount of heat into the coolant too.

I'm not saying the H60 is bad in an absolute sense, but in terms of price : performance it's objectively a poor choice.

 

[jdcranke07]

1) Just in case you didn't read it, the article included an overclocked 4770 in addition to a stock speed one.

2) The H60 performs third from worst on the list.

3) The H60 is louder than any air cooler in the list.

4) The H60 is more expensive than all of the air coolers on the list other than the Noctua D15.

The only reason to buy an AiO cooler is for some sense of aesthetic. Generally speaking, they're more expensive and more noisy for the cooling they give.

EDIT: It's pretty straightforward. AiO coolers are necesarily worse values than air coolers because in cooling, all that really matters is surface area. With an AiO cooler you're paying for a pump, waterblock, tubing and coolant in addition to the radiator (cooling surface) so their price😛erformance is necessarily worse. Insult to injury is that pumps often dump a pretty significant amount of heat into the coolant too.

I'm not saying the H60 is bad in an absolute sense, but in terms of price : performance it's objectively a poor choice.

Again, you missed the point. I have already stated that the H60 IS NOT A TOP END AIO COOLER. However, your generalization that all AIO coolers are bad or not worth the money is what I was arguing and I was saying your argument doesn't even qualify as legitimate in regards to AIO coolers in general. But, if you can't read what I said in my last comment and are still just going to generalize an entire opinion over one product that isn't even considered high end, then you are a lost cause.

OP: I would highly suggest a bigger case and bigger AIO if you really can/want to get great performance. However, in your current state, for performance you should go with a high end air cooler, but for practicality and aesthetics you could go for the AIO cooler. If you experience memory crashes due to heat, you should consider replacing your case fans and/or go with an AIO to help with overall system temps in the case, not just the CPU. This is all I was saying to Ecky in my previous comment. Hopefully, that helps summarize.

 

[Ecky]

I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm generalizing and saying that all AiO coolers are a poor value, without exception. That's it. I built multiple custom loops and ran liquid cooling in my own PC for over a decade before coming to this conclusion. If OP is concerned with value, I'd suggest returning it and getting a cheaper tower cooler, which will likely perform as well with less noise.

 

[jdcranke07]

I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm generalizing and saying that all AiO coolers are a poor value, without exception. That's it. I built multiple custom loops and ran liquid cooling in my own PC for over a decade before coming to this conclusion. If OP is concerned with value, I'd suggest returning it and getting a cheaper tower cooler, which will likely perform as well with less noise.

Value is more of a matter of personal opinion and if that is yours, then it's pointless arguing about it. But, don't portray your opinion to be fact to others, it doesn't help with all the misinformation out there confusing people of all levels of technical skill.

I will say that the price difference is a pretty decent amount, but you are going into completely different realms of use and performance as a whole. With an AIO or even a custom water loop, you can overclock a CPU with more stability due to overall lower temps than you ever could with an air cooler, THIS IS NOT INCLUDING LOWER END AIO COOLERS LIKE THE H60! Also, having an AIO dumping the heat outside the system is best for ALL parts inside the tower and not just the CPU, so again value is based on your opinion and sometimes even your situation at hand. If the OP is not intending to OC their CPU nor are they having any type of heating issue, then there is no other reason to get an AIO except for looks. I have stated this twice already and you, Ecky, have failed to recognize or address this properly. However, being that you have tunnel visioned into your own opinion and refuse to recognize what is being said, I have no intention to take this conversation any further with you.