Question Will the RTX 3080 or 3070 provide a noticeable difference at 1440p gaming over my 1080ti?

Sean87NC

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Hello,
I am aiming to upgrade to a RTX 3080 or RTX 3070. Never had a chance of getting the 3080 FE on launch but maybe the 3070 will be different and the price is pretty good considering I spent more than double that on my current card just last year. I currently have a MSI GTX 1080 Ti Duke OC. I am looking at specs and I am wondering how big of a performance increase I would see? I play on a 1440p 144Mhz monitor. I can record and game at 1440p just fine and play most games on Ultra graphic settings. I get great temps on the card. Anyways, I was looking at some basic specs for the new RTX cards and then came across some comparisons.

MSI 1080ti Duke 11GB OC vs Zotac RTX 3070
MSI 1080ti Duke 11GB OC vs RTX 3080

Below are the RTX specs from Toms Hardware. Of course this may change somewhat with the release of custom cards. And the comparisons could be BS but it seems that the boost clock speed is about the same. The new RTX cards have more CUDA cores and are running GDDR6/6X. Memory interface on the 3080 is 320 bit with 256 bit on the 3070. Lower than my 1080ti although I have no idea what that even means. It seems like I would see a slight bump in performance but the biggest advantage would be with ray tracing and the ability to play on 4k? I posted my system specs at the very bottom. I just switched over from SATA SSD to NVME PCIe 3.0 x 4. Just wondering if anyone can tell me what the primary benefits would be of upgrading to a 3080 or 3070. Would I need to go to the 3080 for it to be worth switching or will the 3070 provide a decent boost...enough boost to justify upgrading. I started with a 1050ti a while back and an i5 processor. My computer was originally a budget build as I just got back into gaming and slowly I have upgraded it to the point its at now.

My monitor doesn't support those resolutions anyway..
ASUS MG278Q WQHD, 1ms 27-Inch FreeSync Gaming Monitor

Nvidia RTX 3090Nvidia RTX 3080Nvidia RTX 3070
Starting Price$1,499$699$499
Nvidia CUDA Cores10,4968,7045,888
Boost Clock (GHz)1.701.711.73
Standard Memory Config24GB GDDR6X10GB GDDR6X8GB GDDR6
Memory Interface Width384-bit320-bit256-bit
Maximum Resolution7680x43207680x43207680x4320
PortsHDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a (3x)HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a (3x)HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a (3x)


  • MODEL NAME- GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti DUKE 11G OC
  • GRAPHICS PROCESSING UNIT- NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti
  • INTERFACE - PCI Express x16 3.0
  • CORES - 3584 Units
  • CORE CLOCKS - 1645 MHz / 1531 MHz
  • MEMORY SPEED - 11016 MHz
  • MEMORY SIZE - 11GB
  • MEMORY TYPE - GDDR5X
  • MEMORY BUS - 352-bit
  • POWER CONSUMPTION - 250 W
  • POWER CONNECTORS - 8-pin x 2
  • CARD DIMENSION (MM) - 320 x 141 x 42 mm
  • VR READY
  • G-SYNC® TECHNOLOGY
  • ADAPTIVE VERTICAL SYNC
MSI Z370M MORTAR Motherboard
Intel - Core i7-9700K 9th Generation 8-Core - 8-Thread 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) Socket LGA 1151
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16
EVGA Supernova 750 G3, 80 Plus Gold 750W, Fully Modular,
Phanteks PH-EC416PTG_BK Eclipse P400 Steel ATX Mid Tower Case
MSI Gaming GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GDRR5X DirectX 12 352-bit
Samsung (MZ-V7S1T0B/AM) 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe - Main drive
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD
CORSAIR - Hydro Series H115i PRO 280mm Liquid Cooling System with RGB Lighting - Black/Gray
ASUS MG278Q WQHD, 1ms 27-Inch FreeSync Gaming Monitor
 
I think you would notice many improvements with the FPS and the speed due to being an new card but 3070 is much cheaper then 3080 and still will game at 1440P but 3080 is only couple more us money then 3070 if you like to game on 4k one day then 3080 will be better option!. Also i would read the reviews on these new cards that might give you more info
 

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I think you would notice many improvements with the FPS and the speed due to being an new card but 3070 is much cheaper then 3080 and still will game at 1440P but 3080 is only couple more us money then 3070 if you like to game on 4k one day then 3080 will be better option!
Yeah, that is true. At least I know it will fit! I also know I have enough PSU as well. I really wish Nvidia set it up so you could pre-order the 3080's. That would of been better. I don't know if I can wait for a 3080 if the 3070 releases and I have a chance to buy it.
 
Yeah, that is true. At least I know it will fit! I also know I have enough PSU as well. I really wish Nvidia set it up so you could pre-order the 3080's. That would of been better. I don't know if I can wait for a 3080 if the 3070 releases and I have a chance to buy it.
3070 will be cheaper card and will get hit with bots and people mining or buying to resell! heard what happend with 3080 think it be more bad with 3070 dont know about 3090 due to being more expensive
 

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3070 will be cheaper card and will get hit with bots and people mining or buying to resell! heard what happend with 3080 think it be more bad with 3070 dont know about 3090 due to being more expensive
They should implement a pre-order system with some type of secondary authentication. Not Captcha. Bots can get around that. I don't think they really care because they still make money either way.
 

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Yes, it will be quite a difference, at least with the 3080. about 60% more fps in average. And you will be able to use ray tracing at over 60fps (probably with DLSS 2.0 in some games, which is awesome by the way, I am kinda impressed in Control and Dead Stranding). Also, in Vulkan and DX12 titles it would be even a better improvement, since Pascal GPUs didn't do too good with those APIs (for example 2080 beat 1080Ti by quite a bit in a lot of DX12 or Vulkan games, but not really in DX11).
 

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They should implement a pre-order system with some type of secondary authentication. Not Captcha. Bots can get around that. I don't think they really care because they still make money either way.
If your satisfied with your performance their no reason to upgrade.
I would think the 3070 would be more of a lateral move and not much of a upgrade. The benchmarks are not out so don't know for sure.

Edit For the bots you got to love the makers. I make a bot and sell it, then I sell the company a program to detect and block the bot, then I sell other people a new bot that your company can't detect or block with what I sold you.
 
3080 seems to be a great card if you will game on a 4k monitor.
Reviews I have seen do not recommend it for anything less.
1440P gaming is probably a swing resolution.

From what is rumored, 3070 will not be that much different from a GTX1080ti.

If you have the budget for a 3080, go ahead.
Anything less and you will forever be second guessing yourself.
Some patience is in order until the early adopter mania dies down.
 

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a 1080ti is still pretty good IMHO
as you said you can already play everything at max settings.

if you change it for a 3080, well. you could still play everything at max settings

how are your other peripherals ? maybe upgrading them would give you more for your money (keyboard, mouse, headset, soundcard, gamepad, trackIR if you're into sims, etc)
Oh and a nice gaming chair and good desk are really life changers !
 

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What is your target FPS. If that monitor is not 144hz then hold back on spending your money until a 3070 Super comes out.✝👩‍🦲🤷‍♂️💯🙈
 

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Thankfully, money isn't an issue. I am hesitant to drop another grand on a GPU though. I think that is why the 3080 seems so attractive. The reviews I read showed a significant increase in performance over the 2080 for only $699. The 1080ti I have I think runs on par with the 2080 for what I do.

The monitor is 144hz and is great. I have only one issue with it so far and that was playing Fallout 4. I had to change it to 60Mhz because the in game audio was going to fast. That is more of a game problem I think though.

I desperately need a new computer desk and a chair. I use an old wooden table thing for my keyboard, mouse and my monitor sits on a TV stand. The PC sits on this box I made -_-. The chair I have cost maybe 30 bucks and is old. The setup is not comfortable, at all. So, I may just wait on the 3080 and get a new desk, chair, keyboard and mouse. I will have to wait anyway on the 3080's. I don't see me being able to get one anytime soon and I can't sit around on some website hitting refresh until the Order button appears. My keyboard is just some $30 keyboard from Wal-Mart and my old gaming mouse broke so I just bought something cheap on Amazon. I don't even know what it is. I have a nice Corsair headset.

I just upgraded to a Samsung Evo Plus 1TB NVME from the 500GB SSD. So, I am satisfied with my PC right now. I really wanted to get VR for a long time and actually put in an order for the Valve Index kit. 2 months later I finally got a notice from Steam that I had 7 days to confirm my order and I realized at that moment, I didn't need it. I forgot about it. I really just want to play a few games I read about and $1000 isn't worth it to play a VR zombie game in my opinion.

I use to be play competitive FPS and some other games but now its more casual for me. I only play on the weekends or if I have PTO and nothing planned. I don't have a target FPS.
 

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This regards VR, so may not matter to your particular interest, but a real world comparison would be for VR performance. I recently got into DCS World. The 1080ti "might" run the VR headset in DCS at very reduced settings. Especially for the pending HP Reverb G2 with 2060 resolution per lens. The 3080 will run it at max, or near-max settings. So i think that shows for raw performance power the 30-series card would be a clear upgrade.
 
I think you have your priorities right.
Best to go to a store and try out chairs for yourself if you can.
Ditto for keyboards and mice.
One size does not fit all.

As to a desk, you can spend a bunch of money if you want.
But, consider going to home depot and buy a 6' by 3' laminated countertop.
Put a 2' high file cabinet on each end and you will have plenty of room for a desk.

If you can manage a wall mount for your monitor, you will have much more deskspace.

Have patience on the 3080 which I think will be a very good upgrade.
Particularly if budget is not a big issue.
Nvidia is making them as fast as they can.
Some who now want a 3080 will opt for a lower cost 3070.
There are others who must have the absolute best will opt for the 3090 .
 

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I second the notion of getting a good mouse and ergonomic chair (one with a bump in the lumbar region) first. If you do upgrade your 1080 ti later on, then you should as well upgrade your monitor to a 120 Hz 4K one, since monitors that run 4K can also run 1440p, and this way you'll actually be taking advantage of the extra firepower.
 

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I actually ordered a desk and a better chair. Edit* I ordered a new mouse and keyboard as well.
I think the table and chair upgrade are more important at the moment. I don't know if my back and arm cant take much more of my current setup.

I appreciate the suggestions.
 

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