Will this bottleneck ?

xsoulshades

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Hello guys im planning on getting this specs:
- MSI Computer Corp. Motherboard North Bridge AMD 970
- 8GB RAM DDR3 1600Mhz
- EVGA GTX 670 FTW Edition
- Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
- AMD Phenom II X6 1090t (Air Cooled)


Will i get bottleneck? and how bad or good?
 
The 1090t will work just fine. I had a 1090t before I upgraded to the AMD FX-8120 and it was a very good CPU. With stock cooling the 1090t would be better option that the FX series. With after market or Water cooling the FX is good but the stock coolers are just to loud at least they were in my case.

If you are able to still get the 1090t go for it most places are out of stock on that CPU so I would not pass on it. I really liked it when I had it as my main gaming rig.
 


Not true, it might be better than the bulldozer series, but not vishera. :)
 
Points:
1) The 1090T will definitely BOTTLENECK the GTX670 in quite a few games. With the amount of money you are spending the i5-3570K would be the best choice. Some games won't be bottlenecked, but some will be severely. Here's an example of how it works (this benchmark doesn't show the 1090T or the 3570K it's just an example):
http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/forum/showthread.php?13319-Starcraft-2-CPU-scaling-benchmarks

I calculated up to a 40% difference roughly in some CPU-dependent games when comparing the 1090T and 3570K (and again, anybody can grab a benchmark for some games that shows minimal difference). Obviously the 1090T is cheaper but when comparing the TOTAL COST of ownership it's not a great value. Some of the newer AMD CPU's are much better value but the i5-3570K still wins overall but you can't pick and choose your benchmarks like some people do. It's the worst-case, CPU-dependent games you need to look at.

**CPU bottlenecking can also show up as more frequent MINIMUM frame rates causing periodic stuttering even when you can maintain 60FPS most of the time. This primarily has to do with single-core performance which the i5-3570K excels at.

2) If you get the i5-3570K you'll want a compatible Z77 1155 motherboard (Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock or MSI). Asrock seems to have good value.

3) EVGA GTX 670 FTW cards don't have the optimal cooling setup. There's also quite a bit of value with some of the AMD cards (two free games). After a lot of research, here's a really awesome card:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=68755&vpn=HD7970-DC2-3GD5&manufacture=ASUS
*Note the two free games (digital download). This card should be overclocked to 1000MHz. It's a 3-slot card which will give performance identical to a GHz version when overclocked and still run quieter. It's $440 and will be better than a GTX670. I don't consider PHYSX a big deal as it's often just a little eye candy that may take a big performance hit. Adaptive VSYNC is nice but not a deal-breaker and it's also driver-based so AMD will likely add it soon.

And here's the review:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_hd_7970_directcu_ii_review,24.html

4) Windows version:
- Unless you really need the Ultimate version, it's more expensive so be sure it's what you require.
- Windows 8 is superior to Windows 7 in many ways and the new interface issue is solved by using START8 from Stardock ($5). Windows 8 (get 64-bit OEM) is:
a) faster to boot
b) more secure
c) more reliable
d) has better memory management
e) has better SSD support
f) improved Windows Explorer
*There's no gaming difference but the guts of it are rock solid and improved. Compatibility issues are few. The Pros simply outweigh the Cons.
 
Update (Canadian links shown):
If I was recommending a GTX670 I'd get this one:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=71705&vpn=GTX670-DC2-2GD5&manufacture=ASUS

FYI, the following 680 is the card that I personally own. It's interesting to note that this model is over 10% faster than a stock 680 and roughly 20% faster than a stock 670. However the cheaper HD7970 I recommended in some games is faster. There's actually a lot more to graphics card reviewing such as FRAME TIMES but that's beyond the scope here. Anyway, I have this Asus GTX 680 TOP:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=71119&vpn=GTX680-DC2T-2GD5&manufacture=ASUS

Personally, I'd recommend either Asus 3-slot 680 or HD7970, but I really feel the HD7970 has the best value though the NVidia card has its own Pros.