Will this build work?

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Hi, planning on getting a new build if newegg accepts my RMA on a cyberpowerpc gamer ultra that died in <2months. I'm missing some original boxing, so it's kind of an if they do not when they do question. I'm wondering on if this build is fully compatible.

Rosewill Challenger ATX mid tower
EVGA gtx 780
i5 cpu (not sure which one yet)
700w cougar PSU
8gb ddr3 1600mhz ram (team vulcan)
asrock b85m pro4 motherboard
western digital blue 1tb 7200rpm hdd
windows 8.1 64bit

total price of this build is $1100ish. Could I do better for the money?

I believe the stock fan will be good enough on a haswell i5 (not overclocking it), yes?

Will the graphics card and power supply fit in the case? I know the gpu fits length wise, but I'm concerned about height.

This case comes with 2 120mm fans and 1 140mm fan. Will cooling be an issue?

Will I have enough cables from PSU?

Are there any other compatibility flaws?

Are there any better motherboards for the same price or less ($70)?

Thanks for the help.
 
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That Arctic cooling CPU cooler is a waste. It will barely be better than the stock cooler. Either get the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or keep the stock cooler.

Get a quality PSU FOR SURE. It is the most important part of a PC. Seasonic, Antec, XFX, Corsair ( not CX, CS, RM) only.
Have you already bought any of that, or is it still in the planning stage?
Your case doesn't have front panel USB 3.0 ports your motherboard has 3.0 headers, I don't think it's a big deal, if it doesn't bother you, USB 3.0 is backwards compatible to USB 2.0.

Looking at the NewEgg vid for your case they state a GPU clearance of just over 11" so you should be fine. I don't see any cooling problems either.

Is this kinda what you are looking at? Wasn't sure if you were going for the 3GB or 4GB 780.:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.19 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Fortress 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1086.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-17 22:22 EDT-0400)
 
I'm going for something like that. That I5 price is a sweet deal, I was considering the i5 4440 for $179 but man that is a much better deal. The ram I selected is actually $30 cheaper and I'm not overly concerned about having anything higher than 1600mhz ram for gaming, and that motherboard doesn't support 1866mhz. I am planning on going with the 3gb 780. The power supply I chose for my build is a 700watt 80+ bronze, and I think it is smarter to have more wattage as the min recommended for the 780 is higher than 550watts. It is $20 more, but you get what you pay for I suppose.

The challenge in making my build more cost efficient is that at least $770 of the money used for this build will have to be on newegg, because assuming they don't reject my RMA on my dead PC because of missing packaging, they will be issuing me a store credit for near that amount. I have a cyberpowerpc prebuilt with a bad cpu and a mobo that died in <2 months as stated above, so I had to return it for whatever I could get. Since it was out of the return period, I was more than happy to accept the offered store credit.

As far as the issue of the usb ports, it isn't a big deal to me at all. If you know of another $50 case that has usb 3.0 ports on the front panel, will fit my components, and has three included case fans + mostly 5 star ratings, I am open to suggestions, but I think this case is an amazing value for the money.

Will an aftermarket cpu cooler be necessary on this build? I don't feel like a non-overclocked haswell I5 is going to run too too hot, even under full load using it's stock cooler. Thanks for the help so far.
 
The case does look like a sweet deal for the price after watching NewEgg's vid for it.

As for cooling, I don't think it will run too hot, especially if the case itself is decent at cooling. That said, it's not a great deal of money to invest in a decent cooler:
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Newegg)
And even maybe switching out the case fans for something better if you wanted to put some work into ensuring a cool system.
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg)

I don't expect my build to need a great deal of cooling, but I'm still putting some thought into it:
I'm going for the Fractal Define R4, using a Zalman CPU cooler and adding in 3 Fans to the case.

CPU comes with a stock cooler right? So you could use HWmonitor to check the temperatures to decide later if you need to invest in cooling.

As for the PSU, the general feeling I get from trolling these forums is to go with a decent brand and grade to ensure performance. Someone posted on another thread not too long ago that they use a 550W Gold for their 780. I'm sure you're doing your own research on it though, I'm here to offer ideas, at the end of the day it's your build :) I can link the thread if you want.
 
That 700 watt cougar brand power supply actually has all very good reviews on newegg, so I am inclined to believe that it is a pretty good quality power supply. I've considered the EVGA 600b also as an option, but I do tend to worry about the wattage. I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue as I'm not overclocking anything, but I just want to be certain.

Like you said, I can always buy an aftermarket cpu cooler at a later point if I feel like it becomes necessary, which is the same philosophy I have towards the case fans as enermax 120mm case fans are only like $12 on newegg and the fan you linked looks like a nice deal for 2 of them as well.

My last real two questions are, do you think newegg is going to deny the RMA on the grounds that I didn't include the original packaging, and will my graphics card clear height wise with my case and width wise with my motherboard? I don't want to order it just to find out that I can't get the side panel on because the graphics card sticks out too long. Once again, thanks for the assistance. It's greatly appreciated.
 
That Arctic cooling CPU cooler is a waste. It will barely be better than the stock cooler. Either get the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or keep the stock cooler.

Get a quality PSU FOR SURE. It is the most important part of a PC. Seasonic, Antec, XFX, Corsair ( not CX, CS, RM) only.
 
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I am actually thinking that I am going to be using the cooler master HAF 912 mid tower instead of that rosewill challenger for $10 more because it is larger, and I will be picking up the 4 pack of cooler master case fans for $12. I will be reducing to the i5 4440 from the i5 4570 (either way that won't bottleneck my card as far as I can tell) and I likely won't need an aftermarket cooler, though if I did need one, I believe I can easily fit the hyper 212 evo into that case. Could you please recommend me a power supply for a mid tower with a gtx 780? Thank you.
 
Adding fans WILL NOT cool the computer more. All any computer needs is 3 fans total. A front intake, rear exhaust and top exhaust. Any more just makes more noise and does not add to cooling.

Your parts will not get hot at all and will run perfectly fine. You have no need for an aftermarket CPU cooler.

I would recommend an XFX 650w PSU for your build. Nicely priced and AMAZING quality.
 


Thank you for the suggestion. As asked above, do you think newegg will deny the RMA on the grounds of not having the original packaging for the defective PC I rma'd to them?
 


I say RMA because they issue an RMA number for it, sorry. Yes, I mean refunding. I will be receiving newegg store credit for the value of the computer as long as it is accepted upon arrival.
 


Fortunately I won't have to deal with a restocking fee, and there is no physical damage to the item or user inflicted issues. The cpu was acting up the whole time I owned it and the motherboard just died last week, which the motherboard it has (msi a78m e35) is notorious for doing.
 

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