Will this CPU run OK?

[Rov3rRepo]

I have an Intel Core i3-2330M in my 2009 Sony Vaio VPCEH24FX and I want to know if a leap up to the Intel Core i7-2620 would be able to run on the laptop.

I have a Socket G1 r/PGA 989 on this motherboard and apparently "there are Socket G/rPGA 989 sockets that can take Socket G1/rPGA 988A or Socket G2/rPGA 988B packaged processors."

Now I know the i7 is a Socket G2 PGA 988.

Can an expert PLEASE CONFIRM this. I would like as many yes or no responses as possible so I will know for sure and won't have a 50% v.s. 50% battle.

THANKS FORUM!

P.S. Can somebody check if the BIOS will support it? I can't find out.

 

[Karsten75]

Socket G2 and G1 are not compatible. That's a"No"


Socket G2 / Socket rPGA988B

Sockets G1 and G2 have the same number of pin holes, but they are not compatible with each other due to different position of one pin hole.

 

[bambiboom]

Rov3rRepo,

This is a tough one- some confusing aspects.

A good method to check CPU's specifications and compatibility is the ARK site. The i3-2330M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880

Note the nomenclature of the Socket as > PPGA9.880

Compatible chipsets: Compatible chipsets: QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz#@compatibility

>and the i7-2620M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1023, PPGA988

Compatible chipsets: QS67, QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620#@compatibility

In determining compatible CPU's, the sockets supported is a primary filter, and I always also use the FSB supported and the lithography. In this case, the FSB of both CPU's is 1066 ,1333 and the lithography is also 32nm for both. However, the socket nomenclature of "FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880" for the i3 and "FCBGA1023, PPGA988" is problematic. Although the article in Wikipedia you quoted suggests there are some compatibilities between G1 and G2, the G2 article also states under Specifications: " Pins arranged in a 35 × 36 grid array (it is not compatible with G1 socket due to different placing of one pin)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_G2

> and which suggest that Karsten75 is correct, the sockets have the same number of pins but there is a difference in a pin position that means the i7 is not compatible.

It is very confusing as the nomenclature ihas a general similarity and so many of the specifications including the chipset are the same.


Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 > [Passmark system Rating = 3949, CPU= 9222 / 2D= 835 / 3D=3553]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Dell 24" and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

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[Rov3rRepo]

Rov3rRepo,

This is a tough one- some confusing aspects.

A good method to check CPU's specifications and compatibility is the ARK site. The i3-2330M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880

Note the nomenclature of the Socket as > PPGA9.880

Compatible chipsets: Compatible chipsets: QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz#@compatibility

>and the i7-2620M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1023, PPGA988

Compatible chipsets: QS67, QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620#@compatibility

In determining compatible CPU's, the sockets supported is a primary filter, and I always also use the FSB supported and the lithography. In this case, the FSB of both CPU's is 1066 ,1333 and the lithography is also 32nm for both. However, the socket nomenclature of "FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880" for the i3 and "FCBGA1023, PPGA988" is problematic. Although the article in Wikipedia you quoted suggests there are some compatibilities between G1 and G2, the G2 article also states under Specifications: " Pins arranged in a 35 × 36 grid array (it is not compatible with G1 socket due to different placing of one pin)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_G2

> and which suggest that Karsten75 is correct, the sockets have the same number of pins but there is a difference in a pin position that means the i7 is not compatible.

It is very confusing as the nomenclature ihas a general similarity and so many of the specifications including the chipset are the same.


Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 > [Passmark system Rating = 3949, CPU= 9222 / 2D= 835 / 3D=3553]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Dell 24" and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

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You sure?

Core i7 Pins - http://img.vip.alibaba.com/img/pb/073/591/496/496591073_590.jpg
Core i3 Pins - http://www.dhresource.com/albu_249525560_00-1.0x0/brand-new-intel-core-i3-2330m-mobile-processor.jpg

 

[bambiboom]

Rov3rRepo,

This is a tough one- some confusing aspects.

A good method to check CPU's specifications and compatibility is the ARK site. The i3-2330M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880

Note the nomenclature of the Socket as > PPGA9.880

Compatible chipsets: Compatible chipsets: QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz#@compatibility

>and the i7-2620M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1023, PPGA988

Compatible chipsets: QS67, QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620#@compatibility

In determining compatible CPU's, the sockets supported is a primary filter, and I always also use the FSB supported and the lithography. In this case, the FSB of both CPU's is 1066 ,1333 and the lithography is also 32nm for both. However, the socket nomenclature of "FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880" for the i3 and "FCBGA1023, PPGA988" is problematic. Although the article in Wikipedia you quoted suggests there are some compatibilities between G1 and G2, the G2 article also states under Specifications: " Pins arranged in a 35 × 36 grid array (it is not compatible with G1 socket due to different placing of one pin)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_G2

> and which suggest that Karsten75 is correct, the sockets have the same number of pins but there is a difference in a pin position that means the i7 is not compatible.

It is very confusing as the nomenclature ihas a general similarity and so many of the specifications including the chipset are the same.


Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 > [Passmark system Rating = 3949, CPU= 9222 / 2D= 835 / 3D=3553]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Dell 24" and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

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You sure?

Core i7 Pins - http://img.vip.alibaba.com/img/pb/073/591/496/496591073_590.jpg
Core i3 Pins - http://www.dhresource.com/albu_249525560_00-1.0x0/brand-new-intel-core-i3-2330m-mobile-processor.jpg

Rov3rRepo,

Pretty sure:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket%20G2%20%28rPGA988B%29.html

From CPU-World >

"Socket G2 / Socket rPGA988B

Socket G2, also called rPGA988B, was introduced in January 2011 as a socket for the second-generation Core microprocessors. Initially used for dual- and quad-core Core-branded CPUs, the rPGA988B was later utilized for mobile Celeron and Pentium processors. Currently (February 2014), the socket works with single-, dual- and quad-core mobile, operating at frequencies up to 3 GHz chips, and having Thermal Design Power in the 35 Watt - 55 Watt range. The socket supports dual-channel DDR3 memory with data rates 1066 MHz for budget chips, 1333 MHz for mid-class models and 1600 MHz for high-performance CPUs. It also supports Direct Media Interface, that provides twice as much bandwidth as DMI on previous generation of Intel Nehalem and Westmere mobile processors. At this time the socket is obsolete, and it was replaced with socket G3, which is incompatible with the rPGA988B.

The socket G2 has 988 pin holes, arranged as 35 x 36 grid, with two plugged pin holes at one of the corners of the grid, and with 18 x 15 section removed from the center of the grid. The socket uses an actuator to lock or release the processor. To lock the CPU the actuator must be turned clockwise, and to release the chip the actuator needs to be turned counter clockwise.

Sockets G1 and G2 have the same number of pin holes, but they are not compatible with each other due to different position of one pin hole." <END


Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[Rov3rRepo]

Rov3rRepo,

This is a tough one- some confusing aspects.

A good method to check CPU's specifications and compatibility is the ARK site. The i3-2330M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880

Note the nomenclature of the Socket as > PPGA9.880

Compatible chipsets: Compatible chipsets: QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/53434/Intel-Core-i3-2330M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz#@compatibility

>and the i7-2620M:

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620

Sockets Supported - FCBGA1023, PPGA988

Compatible chipsets: QS67, QM67, HM67, HM65

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz?q=i7-2620#@compatibility

In determining compatible CPU's, the sockets supported is a primary filter, and I always also use the FSB supported and the lithography. In this case, the FSB of both CPU's is 1066 ,1333 and the lithography is also 32nm for both. However, the socket nomenclature of "FCBGA1.023, PPGA9.880" for the i3 and "FCBGA1023, PPGA988" is problematic. Although the article in Wikipedia you quoted suggests there are some compatibilities between G1 and G2, the G2 article also states under Specifications: " Pins arranged in a 35 × 36 grid array (it is not compatible with G1 socket due to different placing of one pin)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_G2

> and which suggest that Karsten75 is correct, the sockets have the same number of pins but there is a difference in a pin position that means the i7 is not compatible.

It is very confusing as the nomenclature ihas a general similarity and so many of the specifications including the chipset are the same.


Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 > [Passmark system Rating = 3949, CPU= 9222 / 2D= 835 / 3D=3553]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Dell 24" and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

2D, 3D CAD, Image Processing, Rendering, Text > Architecture, industrial design, graphic design, written projects

You sure?

Core i7 Pins - http://img.vip.alibaba.com/img/pb/073/591/496/496591073_590.jpg
Core i3 Pins - http://www.dhresource.com/albu_249525560_00-1.0x0/brand-new-intel-core-i3-2330m-mobile-processor.jpg

Rov3rRepo,

Pretty sure:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket%20G2%20%28rPGA988B%29.html

From CPU-World >

"Socket G2 / Socket rPGA988B

Socket G2, also called rPGA988B, was introduced in January 2011 as a socket for the second-generation Core microprocessors. Initially used for dual- and quad-core Core-branded CPUs, the rPGA988B was later utilized for mobile Celeron and Pentium processors. Currently (February 2014), the socket works with single-, dual- and quad-core mobile, operating at frequencies up to 3 GHz chips, and having Thermal Design Power in the 35 Watt - 55 Watt range. The socket supports dual-channel DDR3 memory with data rates 1066 MHz for budget chips, 1333 MHz for mid-class models and 1600 MHz for high-performance CPUs. It also supports Direct Media Interface, that provides twice as much bandwidth as DMI on previous generation of Intel Nehalem and Westmere mobile processors. At this time the socket is obsolete, and it was replaced with socket G3, which is incompatible with the rPGA988B.

The socket G2 has 988 pin holes, arranged as 35 x 36 grid, with two plugged pin holes at one of the corners of the grid, and with 18 x 15 section removed from the center of the grid. The socket uses an actuator to lock or release the processor. To lock the CPU the actuator must be turned clockwise, and to release the chip the actuator needs to be turned counter clockwise.

Sockets G1 and G2 have the same number of pin holes, but they are not compatible with each other due to different position of one pin hole." <END


Cheers,

BambiBoom

Well I am happy to tell you that the i7 arrived today and runs flawlessly on my PC.

 

[bambiboom]

Rov3rRepo,

Excellent!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[Oskus]

I can say that i successfully swopped cpus from a Asus x53s (rPGA-989 I7-2670qm) to a Dell Latitude E5420 (rPGA-988B I3-2310m).

I7 ----> DELL and I3 ---->ASUS.. It worked both ways!
On the Dell with a I7 i had to turn of Speedstep to make it perform as wanted in prime 95. if not the cpu was throtteling..

Sorry for my bad english. Its not my native language