Will this gaming rig run these games in max?

[Zhou]

Just a few questions. Can this gaming rig.

- Power Supply: OCZ CoreXtreme 500w PSU
- CPU: Intel Core i3 3220 3.30GHz Dual Core CPU
- Motherboard: Gigabyte H61MA-D2V Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Stock Intel CPU Cooler
- RAM: Geil Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz C11 DDR3 Dual Channel Kit
- Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 7850 1024MB
- Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Run the following games at max/ultra, even with AA, Vsync, ?

- World of Tanks & World of Warplanes
- Firefall
- Planetside 2
- BF3
- Arma 2 / Day Z
- Guild Wars 2
- Borderlands 2

 

[Brett928S2]

Hi

NO for some of them like BF3 ...not enough graphics card or cpu....

All the best Brett

 

[simon12]

You can run them all on max but to get good FPS you will need to lower some settings. They will all run very well at good enough settings just not maxed. I am basing this on a 1080 monitor at very low res you may be able to play them all maxed.

 

[Zhou]

K thank you guys

Just found this video with less powerful graphic card and cpu, and running the game in ultra with AA disabled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuZFOrnZkrE

So ya I think I'll be able to run BF3 at ultra oh ye (Maybe....)! 😀

 

[Sunius]

^

That video clearly says medium settings and look at the resolution...

 

[Zhou]

^

That video clearly says medium settings and look at the resolution...

Oh my bad hahaha.

How about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNVgzXQ31nw

 

[Sunius]

Did you even read the description? It's medium as well.

 

[Zhou]

Oh haha, anyway seems like I'm off and save some more money to buy a decent rig.

Thanks again.

 

[Sunius]

The rig you chose is pretty good, but just don't expect to play Battlefield 3 on maximum settings, because it's a very demanding game.

 

[Zhou]

Should I save up few more £ and buy a HD 7870 instead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFBLsDExahA

 

[sam_p_lay]

Should I save up few more £ and buy a HD 7870 instead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFBLsDExahA

Nooooo. You'd only be stepping up a single tiny increment. Unless you're getting a full refund for your existing card, not a smart purchase. You'd really want to step up to a GTX670 for a genuinely appreciable performance boost over what you already have (since it's a pretty fast card anyway). You could hopefully get a decent second hand price for selling your current card.

 

[Zhou]

Oh okay.

Can you also recommend me a CPU that wouldn't bottleneck GTX670?

 

[wr6133]

Match the below stuff with a 670 is the MINIMUM if you want to be running BF3 at ultra and it depends on you getting a decent overclock from that CPU. The total spend would be around £650 excluding Windows.


AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz Quad Core Processor
http://www.cclonline.com/product/26599/HDZ955FBGMBOX/CPUs/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-955-Black-Edition-3-2GHz-Quad-Core-Processor/CPU0006/

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 PCI-Express ATX Motherboard
http://www.cclonline.com/product/77029/GA-970A-DS3/Motherboards/Gigabyte-GA-970A-DS3-AMD-970A-Socket-AM3-DDR3-PCI-Express-ATX-Motherboard/MBD0350/

Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 LP Vengeance Memory 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Two Module Kit
http://www.cclonline.com/product/61774/CML8GX3M2A1600C9/Desktop-Memory/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-LP-Vengeance-Memory-8GB-1600MHz-CL9-DDR3-Two-Module-Kit/RAM0336/

Seagate Barracuda 500GB Hard Drive
http://www.cclonline.com/product/66223/ST500DM002/Hard-Drives/Seagate-Barracuda-500GB-Hard-Drive/HDD1190/

CCL Choice 22x DVD+/-RW Drive
http://www.cclonline.com/product/92980/CCL-DVDRW-BLK-525/Optical-Drives/CCL-Choice-22x-DVD-/-RW-Drive-/CDR0150/

Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case
http://www.cclonline.com/product/79782/CCC-AE37BS-U02/Cases/Xigmatek-Asgard-Pro-Gaming-Case/CAS0584/

OCZ ZS Series 550W 80+ Bronze Power Supply
http://www.cclonline.com/product/60911/OCZ-ZS550W-UK/Power-Supplies/OCZ-ZS-Series-550W-80-Bronze-Power-Supply/PSU0243/

Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO CPU Cooler
http://www.cclonline.com/product/76741/RR-TX3E-22PK-R1/CPU-Coolers/Cooler-Master-Hyper-TX3-EVO-CPU-Cooler/CLR0413/

OR if you can afford it this is around £800 (excluding windows)

Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Processor
http://www.cclonline.com/product/73989/BX80637I53570K/CPUs/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-3-4GHz-Processor-6MB-L3-Cache-5GT/s-Bus-Speed-Boxed-/CPU0102/

Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H Motherboard
http://www.cclonline.com/product/78336/GA-Z77X-UD3H/Motherboards/Gigabyte-GA-Z77X-UD3H-Motherboard/MBD0355/

Palit GeForce GTX 670 Jetstream Graphics Card
http://www.cclonline.com/product/82247/NE5X670H1042-1042F/Graphics-Cards/Palit-GeForce-GTX-670-Jetstream-Graphics-Card/VGA0644/

OCZ ZS Series 650W Power Supply 80+ Plus Bronze
http://www.cclonline.com/product/60912/OCZ-ZS650W-UK/Power-Supplies/OCZ-ZS-Series-650W-Power-Supply-80-Plus-Bronze/PSU0244/

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
http://www.cclonline.com/product/76740/RR-212E-16PK-R1/CPU-Coolers/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-EVO-CPU-Cooler/CLR0412/

Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 LP Vengeance Memory 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Two Module Kit
http://www.cclonline.com/product/61774/CML8GX3M2A1600C9/Desktop-Memory/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-LP-Vengeance-Memory-8GB-1600MHz-CL9-DDR3-Two-Module-Kit/RAM0336/

Seagate Barracuda 500GB Hard Drive
http://www.cclonline.com/product/66223/ST500DM002/Hard-Drives/Seagate-Barracuda-500GB-Hard-Drive/HDD1190/

CCL Choice 22x DVD+/-RW Drive
http://www.cclonline.com/product/92980/CCL-DVDRW-BLK-525/Optical-Drives/CCL-Choice-22x-DVD-/-RW-Drive-/CDR0150/

Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case
http://www.cclonline.com/product/79782/CCC-AE37BS-U02/Cases/Xigmatek-Asgard-Pro-Gaming-Case/CAS0584/

 

[Zhou]

Thank you very much! I'll save up £800 and come back to this thread.


Thanks again.

 

[wr6133]

The AMD build would do it you could use a new FX6300 in place of the Phenom II for a little bit more. Or If you wanted to shave off some ££ on the Intel build you could get a i5 3570 (not the k), a cheaper b75 board (as you can't overclock the non K CPU so don't need z77) and ditch the Hyper 212 cooler, that would save around £80.

I'm assuming here you are gaming at 1920X1080 resolution (1080p) and want a solid 60FPS. Also keep in mind the visual difference between BF3 ultra and BF3 high is barely anything but the difference you need to spend for ultra is +£100, if high is good enough a GTX660ti with that AMD build would be fine.

 

[sam_p_lay]

if high is good enough a GTX660ti with that AMD build would be fine.

Skip the GTX660 Ti. The performance gain is negligible. It's priced it midway between the GTX660 and GTX670, but performance is much closer to that of the GTX660 (which can be had for £60 less, check Dabs for an excellent deal).

 

[wr6133]

I agree the 660 is better bang for your buck but negligible depends what games you play.

I won't cherry pick the benches you can see them all here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=647 it all depends what you want to play at what settings in some things the difference there is worth the extra in some there is no difference

Really depends what you can budget it's arguable though that if you budget £220 for a 660ti then finding an extra £60 for a 670 is not a huge step and also I would say on a gaming machine finding the extra £50 to go from a 660 to a 660ti could be worth it if you play the titles where there is a good increase.

 

[Zhou]

Sorry I'm back again, but my friend also want to buy a graphic card, he'll be playing Borderlands 2 and World of Tanks & Planes with me, this is his current rig with no graphic card at the moment.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V

His in dilemma and don't know which one to buy between the two MSI card.

MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB £166.39

Or

MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB £180.94

 

[wr6133]

Tell your friend to look at this link

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=548

Decide what he plays then decide which suits. I'm an Nvidia fan so I would take the 660 but the 7870 is pretty compelling for £14 more

 

[Sunius]

For borderlands 2, it's really worth going for GTX 660:

http://www.techspot.com/review/577-borderlands-2-performance/page3.html

 

[Zhou]

My friend seen the chart, thanks @wr6133 and Sunius. But he asked me it was actually possible to use PhysX for Borderland 2 using HD 7870.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odSnD6cSz5w

 

[Sunius]

It is, but then it runs on the CPU instead of the GPU. Hence the lower performance on AMD cards. The difference will be even bigger, because the tests were done with much more powerful CPU.

 

[sam_p_lay]

I agree the 660 is better bang for your buck but negligible depends what games you play.

I won't cherry pick the benches you can see them all here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=647 it all depends what you want to play at what settings in some things the difference there is worth the extra in some there is no difference

Really depends what you can budget it's arguable though that if you budget £220 for a 660ti then finding an extra £60 for a 670 is not a huge step and also I would say on a gaming machine finding the extra £50 to go from a 660 to a 660ti could be worth it if you play the titles where there is a good increase.

Well 10% represents the difference between 30fps and 33fps - not really a game changer and probably not a huge deal to most gamers. I'd be interested if you find an example of 20%+ gain (I won't call it cherry-picking).

Not really a big deal either way though - you're not going to end up regretting either purchase (except if you went Ti you might regret not going the rest of the way to a 670 I suppose). Both strong performers anyway.

 

[Zhou]

Hello again, tonight my friend told me that she'll give me a new computer, with no operating systems included. She asked me to choose between the two.

Please help me choose between these two builds:

EDIT: Quick question, does all GTX 660 Ti purchase guarantee a free Borderland 2 digital steam activation code?
EDIT: Just as wr6133 advice, I would want to ask, for the AMD rig, if the Cooler and the Power Supply are enough to OC X4 955 BE to 3.6 or 3.8, maybe even to 4.0 (I wish! 0_0).

INTEL CPU

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core (£159.95)
CPU Cooler: Corsair CAFA50 61.0 CFM (£25.99)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 (£66.11)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 (£26.59)
Storage: A-Data S510 Series 120GB 2.5" SSD (£65.00)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB (£180.94)
Case: Xigmatek Asgard II Black/Orange ATX Mid Tower (£26.99)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V (£49.98)

Total: £601.55

AMD CPU

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core (£59.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Vortex Plus 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing (£17.27)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 ATX AM3+ (£65.75)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 (£59.98)
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5" SSD (£64.99)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB (£233.59)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower (£36.72)
Power Supply: OCZ 550W ATX12V (£63.98)

Total: £602.27

 

[Sunius]

The first setup is kind of strange, because the motherboard doesn't allow overclocking while the CPU needs to be overclocked. Though, it is a better setup nevertheless. Are those your only options?