Will this work?

[Beezlbob]

Hi, I'm trying to build a PC to take to uni. It's mostly going to be doing standard internet stuff (Netflix etc.) but it'll need to run fairly new games on acceptable settings e.g. Witcher 3 on medium at above 24 FPS.

The spec I'm looking at the moment is:
ASUS 110M-R Motherboard
i5-7400 Quad-Core Quad-Thread 3.0GHz 6MB HD CPU
8GB DDR4 SODIMM RAM
GeForce 730 2GB DVI/HDMI/VGA GPU
500GB SSHD Hybrid drive
Slim Tray DVDRW
Windows 10 Home
Standard USB wired KB/M (I assume that means keyboard/mouse, I'll probably untick that box and buy my own better ones)

Including a case and VAT, this comes in at just under £700.

Will this do the job?

 

[urbancamper]

Upgrade the video card to at least a gtx1050 4gb. The 730 2gb card will give you nothing but subpar performance on new games, and older ones too.

 

[Beezlbob]

Hmm, that's annoying. I'm building the computer via a company rather than myself because they're big on environmental and ethical stuff, and I'm not sure if their special high-performance multiple-GPU PCs are up to the same standard when it comes to e.g. avoiding conflict minerals as the one I'm looking into right now. The 730 is the only GPU they offer for this build, is it really SO bad?

I should have mentioned this earlier - the base for this PC is a veryPC Broadleaf Access.

 

[boosted1g]

As stated 730 is a very weak GPU, at least go for a 1050 if not 1050ti.

Also you should try to get a B250 board, H110 may not support that kaby lake cpu out of the box and does not natively support ddr4-2400 either.
Speaking of ram, get 2x4gb as that is 10-15% faster than 1x8gb configuration.

Unless case requires it, get full sized DVD-RW over slim. Cheaper, more reliable and easier to work with.

 

[urbancamper]

Hmm, that's annoying. I'm building the computer via a company rather than myself because they're big on environmental and ethical stuff, and I'm not sure if their special high-performance multiple-GPU PCs are up to the same standard when it comes to e.g. avoiding conflict minerals as the one I'm looking into right now. The 730 is the only GPU they offer for this build, is it really SO bad?

I should have mentioned this earlier - the base for this PC is a veryPC Broadleaf Access.

If this company is trying to put you with a 730 then they are trying to rip you off. Do not buy from them.

 

[coozie7]

I'd upgrade the GTX730 to at least a GTX1050, Wild Hunt is very hard on the graphics card.
I'll take it this is a prebuilt or custom built system from a vendor?
If so, you could always assemble your own, it's not that difficult and the biggest worry for most people is actually the worry...If you see what I mean.

 

[YoAndy]

Like everyone else already said, the GT 730 for gaming is garbage.

 

[urbancamper]

I just went to there website. Those computers are garbage. I am not so sorry to say. You can build a Ryzen cpu\ Nvidia gpu system that uses less electricity then what they are selling. " CO2 emissions way way down." drivel

 

[Beezlbob]

As I said, I'm buying from a vendor not because I have any issues with building a PC but because they do all the ethical sourcing stuff for me, which means I don't need to spend hours trawling through the internet to make sure the components I use aren't made out of condensed Congolese children or anything. The fact that they're using standard parts worries me, but given how vile most of the electronics industry is they seem to be the best people going. Unfortunately, this means I don't get a choice about whether to use 2x4GB RAM or which type of optical drive to use.

There's no issue with parts going together (they put it together) and the GPU is only £50 extra which is more or less what it goes for individually. How is that ripping me off? Genuine question here.

Is the consensus here that I should go for a beefed-up proper graphics-intensive PC rather than trying to upgrade the basic one?

 

[YoAndy]

As I said, I'm buying from a vendor not because I have any issues with building a PC but because they do all the ethical sourcing stuff for me, which means I don't need to spend hours trawling through the internet to make sure the components I use aren't made out of condensed Congolese children or anything. The fact that they're using standard parts worries me, but given how vile most of the electronics industry is they seem to be the best people going. Unfortunately, this means I don't get a choice about whether to use 2x4GB RAM or which type of optical drive to use.

There's no issue with parts going together (they put it together) and the GPU is only £50 extra which is more or less what it goes for individually. How is that ripping me off? Genuine question here.

Is the consensus here that I should go for a beefed-up proper graphics-intensive PC rather than trying to upgrade the basic one?

Where do you thing they get their components from?> Intel or amd (for cpu's) and nvidia or amd(for graphics cards) those electronics are made all the same regardless of where you buy them from. they all go back to their main facilities somewhere in Asia. If you really think the Intel i5 7400 (they are selling you) is any different from any other intel CPU elsewhere they are ''pulling your leg''.

 

[urbancamper]

Well, that tiny case will heat up fast, adding to the co2 emissions that want you to believe they are saving. More heat is not good for a pc. As far as ethically made parts, they can say what they want, but it is a line, nothing more. And as i said in the beginning the gpu is crap. Sorry but all i have just said is true.

 

[boosted1g]

Yeah that company is taking you for a ride.
They might be able to make sure the last couple of steps are "ethical" but at the motherboard and component assembly levels, it all comes from the same factories in asia.

 

[Beezlbob]

Well, that tiny case will heat up fast, adding to the co2 emissions that want you to believe they are saving.

that's... not how climate change works

As I said, the fact that they're using standard parts is suspect, but honestly I don't think there even ARE non-exploitative PC parts available to individual consumers, so all I can do is make the best of it.

Thanks for all answers, I'll take a look at the more expensive options. I know the company is far from ultra-virtuous, but they're the best I could find. There is No Ethical Consumption Under Capitalism and all that.

 

[urbancamper]

Well this could be but as I said this "Ethical" company is not ethical at all. They are ripping people off with lies of sustainability and ethical concern.

 

[urbancamper]

Build a nice Ryzen R 1500 / gtx 1050 platform and you will leave a lessor footprint then the hogwash they are trying to sell you.

 

[Beezlbob]

Build a nice Ryzen R 1500 / gtx 1050 platform and you will leave a lessor footprint then the hogwash they are trying to sell you.

I'm just curious here, but do you think that a PC's carbon footprint is based on how warm it gets when it's being used? I could be totally misreading your comments here, sorry if I am.

 

[urbancamper]

So you give someone else best answer when they where agreeing with what I said in the beginning? That's cool. So you don't like me saying the company was trying to rip you off? That's cool too. You want to belittle me because I don't have a strong knowledge of how the environment works. I'm ok with that too.

As far as the components I suggested. The cpu uses exactly the same wattage as the i5 7400, and the gpu also uses the same as the 730, with much better power management. Lower wattage= lower carbon footprint.

I would add, that I find it extremely amusing, it took you so long to understand, and continued riding a dead horse, when all these people said the same thing.

Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

 

[Beezlbob]

So you give someone else best answer when they where agreeing with what I said in the beginning? That's cool. So you don't like me saying the company was trying to rip you off? That's cool too. You want to belittle me because I don't have a strong knowledge of how the environment works. I'm ok with that too.

As far as the components I suggested. The cpu uses exactly the same wattage as the i5 7400, and the gpu also uses the same as the 730, with much better power management. Lower wattage= lower carbon footprint.

I would add, that I find it extremely amusing, it took you so long to understand, and continued riding a dead horse, when all these people said the same thing.

Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

...ok. thanks?