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all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).

is that too much money for you?

the PSP has graphics capabilities that are roughly on par with PS2. In
some areas, PSP is weaker than PS2, but in many other areas, PSP is
better than PS2 in graphics because of the extra graphic functions PSP
has, plus the fact that PSP does not have to draw/display to as a
screen resolution that PS2 does.

PSP has almost as much RAM memory that PS2 has.

PSP: 36 MB total
32 MB external RAM + 4 MB eDRAM
PS2: 40 MB total
32 MB external RAM + 4 MB eDRAM + 2 MB audio RAM + 2 MB for I/O chip
(PS1 CPU)


PSP will obviously play games, music and movies thanks to it's UMD
universal media disc which can hold slightly more data than Gamecube's
mini DVDs.

PSP's 3D graphics capabilities are beyond those of Dreamcast in every
area that I know of. they rival Gamecube and PS2 in *some* areas,
although Gamecube and PS2 surpass PSP in some areas also.

overall, PSP is 2 orders of magnitude beyond the GBA in graphics, and
still far surpass the graphics of DS.

new PSP games are being revealed every hour, I cant even keep up with
all the announcements.

will you pay $300 for PSP?

I might, I might not. have not decided.

$300 is not the final locked price of PSP, but that's what Sony seems
to be indicating right now. there is plenty of time for Sony to gauge
reaction and change the price between now and release, which is now Q1
2005 at the soonest.

I hope Sony brings it down to $200. $300 is gonna be a tough sell.
 
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> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>
> is that too much money for you?

Frankly, $300 was too much for the PS2 and Xbox, and what you basically get
with the PSP is PS2 technology (slightly less) in a smaller format and 4 1/2
years later. What's more, my PS2 doesn't run out of batteries in 2 hours.
The PSP looks cool, and I think I'd choose it over the DS, but there's no
way I'm going to pay $300 for a handheld system.

The PSP will be successful, though, and it will be a good system. After
all, it has the PlayStation name on it.
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"Radeon350" <Radeon350@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>
> is that too much money for you?
>
> the PSP has graphics capabilities that are roughly on par with PS2. In
> some areas, PSP is weaker than PS2, but in many other areas, PSP is
> better than PS2 in graphics because of the extra graphic functions PSP
> has, plus the fact that PSP does not have to draw/display to as a
> screen resolution that PS2 does.
>
> PSP has almost as much RAM memory that PS2 has.
>
> PSP: 36 MB total
> 32 MB external RAM + 4 MB eDRAM
> PS2: 40 MB total
> 32 MB external RAM + 4 MB eDRAM + 2 MB audio RAM + 2 MB for I/O chip
> (PS1 CPU)
>
>
> PSP will obviously play games, music and movies thanks to it's UMD
> universal media disc which can hold slightly more data than Gamecube's
> mini DVDs.
>
> PSP's 3D graphics capabilities are beyond those of Dreamcast in every
> area that I know of. they rival Gamecube and PS2 in *some* areas,
> although Gamecube and PS2 surpass PSP in some areas also.
>
> overall, PSP is 2 orders of magnitude beyond the GBA in graphics, and
> still far surpass the graphics of DS.
>
> new PSP games are being revealed every hour, I cant even keep up with
> all the announcements.
>
> will you pay $300 for PSP?
>
> I might, I might not. have not decided.
>
> $300 is not the final locked price of PSP, but that's what Sony seems
> to be indicating right now. there is plenty of time for Sony to gauge
> reaction and change the price between now and release, which is now Q1
> 2005 at the soonest.
>
> I hope Sony brings it down to $200. $300 is gonna be a tough sell.

$300 is kind of steep but I'll bite. It is too expensive for me to get
another for my wife like I will with the DS but with all of the things that
it is rumored to have, I won't have a problem spending 3 bills.
 
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<SNIP>

> will you pay $300 for PSP?
>
> I might, I might not. have not decided.
>
> $300 is not the final locked price of PSP, but that's what Sony seems
> to be indicating right now. there is plenty of time for Sony to gauge
> reaction and change the price between now and release, which is now Q1
> 2005 at the soonest.
>
> I hope Sony brings it down to $200. $300 is gonna be a tough sell.


I will pay what ever price Sony asks. Not because I'm a blinded Sony fanboy,
but because I want to see Nintendo fail and every way possible. Heck, if
Sony cant do it, I'd like to see Microsoft take a chance too. Nintendo has
been so laxed on the handheld business its unbelievable. I think people only
bought gameboys because there just wasn't a comparably priced alternative
with lots of games.

However, I cannot see Sony dropping a $300 brick for us gamers to try to
catch. But then again if it can support MP3 out of the box, I'll gladly pay
the $300. If it delivers as the all in wonder its being touted to be, it
will blow the doors off Nintendo. I'm willing to drop the 300 for it as it
stands now, although... I'd love to pay less, who wouldn't??


--Brenden
 
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"Mike Tyndall" <Mike_Tyndall_1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<yLqdnbPg-5yzN83cRVn-jg@comcast.com>...
> > all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> > U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
> >
> > is that too much money for you?
>
> Frankly, $300 was too much for the PS2 and Xbox, and what you basically get
> with the PSP is PS2 technology (slightly less) in a smaller format and 4 1/2
> years later. What's more, my PS2 doesn't run out of batteries in 2 hours.
> The PSP looks cool, and I think I'd choose it over the DS, but there's no
> way I'm going to pay $300 for a handheld system.
>
> The PSP will be successful, though, and it will be a good system. After
> all, it has the PlayStation name on it.

my reply to this is that 300 dollars is a lot.
but then i compare it to other peripherals on the market now, and if
the psp can do all of the things that i have heard that it can, then
that price is competative. apples iPod is around that price, i think,
and they , apple, said they don't care about adding any kind of video
support in the future. and the psp will have that, and more. as long
as it fits in my pocket, and can do all i've heard then i'm sold.
 
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Radeon350@yahoo.com (Radeon350) wrote in message news:<ab1f5a92.0409211349.3eeca1d4@posting.google.com>...
> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>
> is that too much money for you?


No, it's not too much considering it's a one time cost. There's no
way I'm going to pass it up. It looks so damn good, and the previews
I've seen look great for a handheld. Basically it is just a PS2 in a
very small package, but who cares, it's a huge step up from the GBA
SP. The only bad thing is that I hope Sony doesn't take the "3d only"
stance they're getting known for.
 
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> "Radeon350" <Radeon350@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ab1f5a92.0409211349.3eeca1d4@posting.google.com...
>> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
>> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>>
>> is that too much money for you?
>>
>> the PSP has graphics capabilities that are roughly on par with PS2. In
>> some areas, PSP is weaker than PS2, but in many other areas, PSP is
>> better than PS2 in graphics because of the extra graphic functions PSP
>> has, plus the fact that PSP does not have to draw/display to as a
>> screen resolution that PS2 does.
>>
>> PSP has almost as much RAM memory that PS2 has.
>>
>> PSP: 36 MB total
>> 32 MB external RAM + 4 MB eDRAM
>> PS2: 40 MB total
>> 32 MB external RAM + 4 MB eDRAM + 2 MB audio RAM + 2 MB for I/O chip
>> (PS1 CPU)
>>
>>
>> PSP will obviously play games, music and movies thanks to it's UMD
>> universal media disc which can hold slightly more data than Gamecube's
>> mini DVDs.
>>
>> PSP's 3D graphics capabilities are beyond those of Dreamcast in every
>> area that I know of. they rival Gamecube and PS2 in *some* areas,
>> although Gamecube and PS2 surpass PSP in some areas also.
>>
>> overall, PSP is 2 orders of magnitude beyond the GBA in graphics, and
>> still far surpass the graphics of DS.
>>
>> new PSP games are being revealed every hour, I cant even keep up with
>> all the announcements.
>>
>> will you pay $300 for PSP?
>>
>> I might, I might not. have not decided.
>>
>> $300 is not the final locked price of PSP, but that's what Sony seems
>> to be indicating right now. there is plenty of time for Sony to gauge
>> reaction and change the price between now and release, which is now Q1
>> 2005 at the soonest.
>>
>> I hope Sony brings it down to $200. $300 is gonna be a tough sell.
>
> $300 is kind of steep but I'll bite. It is too expensive for me to get
> another for my wife like I will with the DS but with all of the things
> that
> it is rumored to have, I won't have a problem spending 3 bills.
>
>

I think it all depends on the cost of the games. If they keep their
promises, as to having the games cost only half as much as the PS2 games do,
I will gladly pay that amount of money for the PSP. I would much rather buy
an expensive hardware with cheap games, than buy a cheap hardware with
expensive games (like the Nintendo). People say there's no reason not to own
a GC today, because they're so cheap. Well, that doesn't help much when the
games cost just as much as on the other formats. I believe software prices
is the be-all end-all of the games market, as you usually only buy a new
console once, while you keep on spending money on a bunch of games.

Tommy


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"Mike Tyndall" <Mike_Tyndall_1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
>> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>>
>> is that too much money for you?
>
> Frankly, $300 was too much for the PS2 and Xbox, and what you basically
> get
> with the PSP is PS2 technology (slightly less) in a smaller format and 4
> 1/2
> years later. What's more, my PS2 doesn't run out of batteries in 2 hours.
> The PSP looks cool, and I think I'd choose it over the DS, but there's no
> way I'm going to pay $300 for a handheld system.


Where is your source for the 2 hour battery life? According to IGN it seems
to be lasting longer, and we're talking about playing games, not movies.

--Brenden


>
> The PSP will be successful, though, and it will be a good system. After
> all, it has the PlayStation name on it.
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> //mike tyndall
> C++ programmer and game designer (not professionally)
> See my 329-game collection:
> http://users.ign.com/collection/MikeTyndall
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"Brenden D. Chase" <brendenREMOVE77@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike Tyndall" <Mike_Tyndall_1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> >> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
> >>
> >> is that too much money for you?
> >
> > Frankly, $300 was too much for the PS2 and Xbox, and what you basically
> > get
> > with the PSP is PS2 technology (slightly less) in a smaller format and 4
> > 1/2
> > years later. What's more, my PS2 doesn't run out of batteries in 2
hours.
> > The PSP looks cool, and I think I'd choose it over the DS, but there's
no
> > way I'm going to pay $300 for a handheld system.
>
> Where is your source for the 2 hour battery life? According to IGN it
seems
> to be lasting longer, and we're talking about playing games, not movies.

Well, I was exaggerating here; I know it will last longer than that. I was
just talking about how my PS2 is basically superior in every way except
portability. Chances are that the PSP will have lower battery life than the
DS, though it should be reasonable. They would probably have considered a
redesign if they couldn't get at least 7-8 hours out of it.
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Radeon350@yahoo.com (Radeon350) wrote in news:ab1f5a92.0409211349.3eeca1d4
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> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>
> is that too much money for you?

Doesn't really matter since indications tend to mean "industry analysists"
talking out their asses.
 
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That is true. The ipod is $299 and I'd definitely buy it if I had the extra
bones. Right now im having to pay fines and dui classes, or id have one. So
the PSP with all its supposed features would be worth waiting for. By that
time i'll be through with class and have extra money hopefull. Plus my bd is
in march when the psp is supposed to be here in u.s. if theres no delays and
that would make a great gift, hehe.
"jimmy" <jimmygass@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Tyndall" <Mike_Tyndall_1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
>> > U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>> >
>> > is that too much money for you?
>>
>> Frankly, $300 was too much for the PS2 and Xbox, and what you basically
>> get
>> with the PSP is PS2 technology (slightly less) in a smaller format and 4
>> 1/2
>> years later. What's more, my PS2 doesn't run out of batteries in 2
>> hours.
>> The PSP looks cool, and I think I'd choose it over the DS, but there's no
>> way I'm going to pay $300 for a handheld system.
>>
>> The PSP will be successful, though, and it will be a good system. After
>> all, it has the PlayStation name on it.
>
> my reply to this is that 300 dollars is a lot.
> but then i compare it to other peripherals on the market now, and if
> the psp can do all of the things that i have heard that it can, then
> that price is competative. apples iPod is around that price, i think,
> and they , apple, said they don't care about adding any kind of video
> support in the future. and the psp will have that, and more. as long
> as it fits in my pocket, and can do all i've heard then i'm sold.
 
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In article <eI14d.215363$4o.101072@fed1read01>,
"Brenden D. Chase" <brendenREMOVE77@cox.net> wrote:

> However, I cannot see Sony dropping a $300 brick for us gamers to try to
> catch. But then again if it can support MP3 out of the box, I'll gladly pay
> the $300. If it delivers as the all in wonder its being touted to be, it
> will blow the doors off Nintendo. I'm willing to drop the 300 for it as it
> stands now, although... I'd love to pay less, who wouldn't??

$300 in itself may not be that high but you might need some extra money
for a Memory Stick just for game saves. And then if you want to load a
bunch of MP3s, you may want to get at least a 256 MB MS. Maybe 512 MB.

Mo money.

That shiny screen looks like it might scratch up. You might want a
fancy case like people buy for iPods.

Mo money.

And maybe with the reputed poor battery life, you should consider
getting some extra batteries too.

Mo money, mo money, mo money.
 
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"poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message
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> In article <eI14d.215363$4o.101072@fed1read01>,
> "Brenden D. Chase" <brendenREMOVE77@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> However, I cannot see Sony dropping a $300 brick for us gamers to try to
>> catch. But then again if it can support MP3 out of the box, I'll gladly
>> pay
>> the $300. If it delivers as the all in wonder its being touted to be, it
>> will blow the doors off Nintendo. I'm willing to drop the 300 for it as
>> it
>> stands now, although... I'd love to pay less, who wouldn't??
>
> $300 in itself may not be that high but you might need some extra money
> for a Memory Stick just for game saves. And then if you want to load a
> bunch of MP3s, you may want to get at least a 256 MB MS. Maybe 512 MB.
>
> Mo money.


I've already got a huge ass memory stick for my digital camera, no need to
buy another.


>
> That shiny screen looks like it might scratch up. You might want a
> fancy case like people buy for iPods.


I'm sure some little kid might need a case... I take care of my things
better than that.


>
> Mo money.
>
> And maybe with the reputed poor battery life, you should consider
> getting some extra batteries too.


reputed poor battery life??? of what??? the psp??? i didnt know you had
one and knew first hand. IGN reported no change in the battery indicator
after hours of play.. hands on impression from them i think is more
credible than you.

--brenden




>
> Mo money, mo money, mo money.
 
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"Brenden D. Chase" <brendenREMOVE77@cox.net> wrote in message
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> <SNIP>
>
>> will you pay $300 for PSP?
>>
>> I might, I might not. have not decided.
>>
>> $300 is not the final locked price of PSP, but that's what Sony seems
>> to be indicating right now. there is plenty of time for Sony to gauge
>> reaction and change the price between now and release, which is now Q1
>> 2005 at the soonest.
>>
>> I hope Sony brings it down to $200. $300 is gonna be a tough sell.
>
>
> I will pay what ever price Sony asks. Not because I'm a blinded Sony
> fanboy, but because I want to see Nintendo fail and every way possible.
> Heck, if Sony cant do it, I'd like to see Microsoft take a chance too.
> Nintendo has been so laxed on the handheld business its unbelievable. I
> think people only bought gameboys because there just wasn't a comparably
> priced alternative with lots of games.
>
> However, I cannot see Sony dropping a $300 brick for us gamers to try to
> catch. But then again if it can support MP3 out of the box, I'll gladly
> pay the $300. If it delivers as the all in wonder its being touted to be,
> it will blow the doors off Nintendo. I'm willing to drop the 300 for it as
> it stands now, although... I'd love to pay less, who wouldn't??

It's supposed to only play Sony's ATRAC music format.

--
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metalcowsolid.com

>
>
> --Brenden
>
>
>
>
 
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poldy <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in
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> And maybe with the reputed poor battery life, you should consider
> getting some extra batteries too.

The only people claiming it'll have terrible battery life were folks who
took the movie playback battery usage estimates and ignored the rest of the
commentaries that all said games would use much less power on average.
 
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>>
>> And maybe with the reputed poor battery life, you should consider
>> getting some extra batteries too.
>
> The only people claiming it'll have terrible battery life were folks who
> took the movie playback battery usage estimates and ignored the rest of
> the
> commentaries that all said games would use much less power on average.

Yes, because a complex game that's streaming world data throughout is so
dissimilar than a movie which is also constantly streaming data, right?

*cough*

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"Radeon350" <Radeon350@yahoo.com> wrote

> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).

> is that too much money for you?

Yep.

> the PSP has graphics capabilities that are roughly on par with PS2. In
> some areas, PSP is weaker than PS2, but in many other areas, PSP is
> better than PS2 in graphics because of the extra graphic functions PSP
> has, plus the fact that PSP does not have to draw/display to as a
> screen resolution that PS2 does.

That's a minus, IMHO, especially when you take aliasing into effect.

.....

> $300 is not the final locked price of PSP, but that's what Sony seems
> to be indicating right now. there is plenty of time for Sony to gauge
> reaction and change the price between now and release, which is now Q1
> 2005 at the soonest.

> I hope Sony brings it down to $200. $300 is gonna be a tough sell.

Not really interested, at this point, at all. Big wait and see on it. Will
probably get the DS, though, because of the track record.
 
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> "Mike Tyndall" <Mike_Tyndall_1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<yLqdnbPg-5yzN83cRVn-jg@comcast.com>...
>
>>>all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
>>>U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>>>
>>>is that too much money for you?
>>
>>Frankly, $300 was too much for the PS2 and Xbox, and what you basically get
>>with the PSP is PS2 technology (slightly less) in a smaller format and 4 1/2
>>years later. What's more, my PS2 doesn't run out of batteries in 2 hours.
>>The PSP looks cool, and I think I'd choose it over the DS, but there's no
>>way I'm going to pay $300 for a handheld system.
>>
>>The PSP will be successful, though, and it will be a good system. After
>>all, it has the PlayStation name on it.
>
>
> my reply to this is that 300 dollars is a lot.
> but then i compare it to other peripherals on the market now, and if
> the psp can do all of the things that i have heard that it can, then
> that price is competative. apples iPod is around that price, i think,
> and they , apple, said they don't care about adding any kind of video
> support in the future. and the psp will have that, and more. as long
> as it fits in my pocket, and can do all i've heard then i'm sold.

I think it's unfair to compare the PSP to the iPod, which many people
seem to do. For one, the iPod is primarily a music player, and the PSP
is primarily a games machine. Additionally, there's a hard-drive in an
iPod, which is way WAY bigger than any memory stick Sony (or any other
flash-memory card manufacturer) will ever come up with. It would be more
appropriate to compare the up-coming [Sony] VIAO Pocket Digtal Music
Player with the iPod.

My hope (and fear) is that the PSP is going to try so hard to be a
jack-of-all-trades that it will fail to be anything. Nintendo do need to
be seriously challenged in the mobile arena, but I don't think the PSP
will do it, at least not this generation. It simply costs too much
(although some (stupid) people think the more expensive something is,
the better it is)

If I wanted to play a PS2, I'll buy a PS2 (or PSTwo) for $200 less than
the PSP, if I want gaming on the move, I'll buy a GameBoy, or use my
mobile phone (which, incidentally, plays mp3s, and avi/mpeg movies)
 
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We didnt compare it to the ipod. Just the price, and that people would pay
300 for something like that , why not a psp ?
"Vitani" <inativ@tfosxft.moc> wrote in message
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> jimmy wrote:
>> "Mike Tyndall" <Mike_Tyndall_1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:<yLqdnbPg-5yzN83cRVn-jg@comcast.com>...
>>
>>>>all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
>>>>U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>>>>
>>>>is that too much money for you?
>>>
>>>Frankly, $300 was too much for the PS2 and Xbox, and what you basically
>>>get
>>>with the PSP is PS2 technology (slightly less) in a smaller format and 4
>>>1/2
>>>years later. What's more, my PS2 doesn't run out of batteries in 2
>>>hours.
>>>The PSP looks cool, and I think I'd choose it over the DS, but there's no
>>>way I'm going to pay $300 for a handheld system.
>>>
>>>The PSP will be successful, though, and it will be a good system. After
>>>all, it has the PlayStation name on it.
>>
>>
>> my reply to this is that 300 dollars is a lot.
>> but then i compare it to other peripherals on the market now, and if
>> the psp can do all of the things that i have heard that it can, then
>> that price is competative. apples iPod is around that price, i think,
>> and they , apple, said they don't care about adding any kind of video
>> support in the future. and the psp will have that, and more. as long
>> as it fits in my pocket, and can do all i've heard then i'm sold.
>
> I think it's unfair to compare the PSP to the iPod, which many people seem
> to do. For one, the iPod is primarily a music player, and the PSP is
> primarily a games machine. Additionally, there's a hard-drive in an iPod,
> which is way WAY bigger than any memory stick Sony (or any other
> flash-memory card manufacturer) will ever come up with. It would be more
> appropriate to compare the up-coming [Sony] VIAO Pocket Digtal Music
> Player with the iPod.
>
> My hope (and fear) is that the PSP is going to try so hard to be a
> jack-of-all-trades that it will fail to be anything. Nintendo do need to
> be seriously challenged in the mobile arena, but I don't think the PSP
> will do it, at least not this generation. It simply costs too much
> (although some (stupid) people think the more expensive something is, the
> better it is)
>
> If I wanted to play a PS2, I'll buy a PS2 (or PSTwo) for $200 less than
> the PSP, if I want gaming on the move, I'll buy a GameBoy, or use my
> mobile phone (which, incidentally, plays mp3s, and avi/mpeg movies)
 
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arias wrote:
> We didnt compare it to the ipod. Just the price, and that people would pay
> 300 for something like that , why not a psp ?

An iPod allows you to listen to (an estimated) 21 days of music, during
which you don't have to look at the unit at all. You just plug in your
headphones, and away you go. Listening anywhere, walking, driving,
biking, etc. You cannot do the same with a PSP. You have to look at it.
An iPod can be used anywhere, and thus is worth the pay-out. A PSP
cannot, and has to work harder to make it worth the money. By working
harder I don't mean being able to play movies on a media format that no
film studio in the world (barr Sony) would release their films on.

In my opinion it fails to be worth $300. It is a game console, and the
GameBoy, DS & NQ are all cheaper, and better (again imo)

I hope the PSP fails, because I think Sony have got it all wrong. I know
they wont fail, because Sony could put their logo on dog poo and people
would buy it. Generally, people are dumb (I'm not for a minute saying
you are, for all I know you're a rocket scientist) and they will buy
what they are "told" to buy by the sales & advertising people.


In response to your other post Re: screen size - *I've* never noticed a
problem with the SP, and most people who own portables are kids, as they
have more time to play them (most adults spend their "mobile time"
driving, rather than being driven)
 
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"Radeon350" <Radeon350@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>
> is that too much money for you?

Frankly, yes. I mean, I've read the specs and seen the screen shots and
everything, but I'm not yet convinced. People have been screaming "It plays
music! The games are 3D! I'm gonna buy it the day it comes out!" but I don't
know. I'm going to wait until it's been out a while before I decide; read
some reviews, see how well it holds up. Besides, I'm not interested in
re-buying my entire DVD collection in UMD format, I'm only interested in the
gaming aspect. And $300 for a handheld? I'm hesitant to pay that for a home
console. Personally, I have no intention of making the purchase on my faith
in Sony. Once I know it's a good, reliable system with some *fun* games (and
a price drop or two), then I'll see about picking one up. Until then, I've
got my PS2 and GC for 3D fun, and my GBA SP for portable fun.
 
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Well , i guess i wasnt clear. I didnt compare what the ipod does with what
the psp will do. Just that the cost margin is about the same.
Apple is a big name to and they could make a pile a of poo and put there
logo on it and some "mac only" dude would buy it because he's trendy and
likes there commercials, hehe.
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> arias wrote:
>> We didnt compare it to the ipod. Just the price, and that people would
>> pay 300 for something like that , why not a psp ?
>
> An iPod allows you to listen to (an estimated) 21 days of music, during
> which you don't have to look at the unit at all. You just plug in your
> headphones, and away you go. Listening anywhere, walking, driving, biking,
> etc. You cannot do the same with a PSP. You have to look at it. An iPod
> can be used anywhere, and thus is worth the pay-out. A PSP cannot, and has
> to work harder to make it worth the money. By working harder I don't mean
> being able to play movies on a media format that no film studio in the
> world (barr Sony) would release their films on.
>
> In my opinion it fails to be worth $300. It is a game console, and the
> GameBoy, DS & NQ are all cheaper, and better (again imo)
>
> I hope the PSP fails, because I think Sony have got it all wrong. I know
> they wont fail, because Sony could put their logo on dog poo and people
> would buy it. Generally, people are dumb (I'm not for a minute saying you
> are, for all I know you're a rocket scientist) and they will buy what they
> are "told" to buy by the sales & advertising people.
>
>
> In response to your other post Re: screen size - *I've* never noticed a
> problem with the SP, and most people who own portables are kids, as they
> have more time to play them (most adults spend their "mobile time"
> driving, rather than being driven)
 
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Then when the psp comes out, you'll start to drool, sell the ds on ebay and
then use the money for a PSP. Hopefully there not sold out : )
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> "Radeon350" <Radeon350@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>> all indications right now are that PSP will cost $300 at launch in the
>> U.S. and equivalent to that in Japan (33,000 yen).
>
>> is that too much money for you?
>
> Yep.
>
>> the PSP has graphics capabilities that are roughly on par with PS2. In
>> some areas, PSP is weaker than PS2, but in many other areas, PSP is
>> better than PS2 in graphics because of the extra graphic functions PSP
>> has, plus the fact that PSP does not have to draw/display to as a
>> screen resolution that PS2 does.
>
> That's a minus, IMHO, especially when you take aliasing into effect.
>
> ....
>
>> $300 is not the final locked price of PSP, but that's what Sony seems
>> to be indicating right now. there is plenty of time for Sony to gauge
>> reaction and change the price between now and release, which is now Q1
>> 2005 at the soonest.
>
>> I hope Sony brings it down to $200. $300 is gonna be a tough sell.
>
> Not really interested, at this point, at all. Big wait and see on it.
> Will
> probably get the DS, though, because of the track record.
>
>
 
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"arias" <georgearias@verizon.net> wrote

> Then when the psp comes out, you'll start to drool, sell the ds on ebay
and
> then use the money for a PSP. Hopefully there not sold out : )

Doubt it. So far the games look like pixel vomit and I haven't seen any
that are really suited for the "hand held" market. And, come on... load
times on a portable? lol. The thing's a joke.
 
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http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=4535
PSP hardware is finished; Kutaragi reveals new details

Tom Bramwell 11:53 22/09/2004
New handheld will definitely ship this year; several new titles announced in
Tokyo

Sony has finished work on PlayStation Portable hardware and still intends to
ship the console this year, Sony COO Ken Kutaragi told a press briefing in
Japan yesterday, although the company has yet to announce pricing or release
date details and Kutaragi declined to say whether or not the unit would cost
more than the Nintendo DS ($149).

Yesterday, reports started drifting around that had the PSP retailing in
Japan at 33,000 yen (around 167 UKP / 244 Euro), but Sony has since
described any talk about price as "speculation" and refused to confirm or
deny pricing plans for any territory.

"We won't announce the price of the PSP today," Kutaragi told the assembled
hacks yesterday, adding that he hoped to announce it "after we hear the
voices of our users, distributors, and developers at the Tokyo Game Show."
Sony plans to have 100 playable PSP units at the show and more than 20
playable games.

Yesterday's Sony briefing also revealed a bunch of new games on the way from
the likes of Atlus, Namco (Taiko no Tatsujin drum/music game), SNK (3D King
of Fighters game), From Software (Tenchu) and Tetsuya Mizuguchi's Q
Entertainment (Lumines, a "sound and light action puzzle game" to be
published by Bandai).

Sony certainly needs the PSP to make an impression at the Tokyo Game Show
after mounting speculation that the handheld will slip to 2005, and rumours
of discontent amongst PSP developers surfaced recently.

Kutaragi also said that plans for movies on UMD - the proprietary disc
format the PSP will use - are now in the final stages, although there are
currently no plans to let users record anything to UMD. Apparently it might
happen "if the market starts to get stabilised and things are going well,"
but if it does it will come after a period of consultation with companies
about recording formats, copy protection, standards and so on.

For now though the message is that the hardware is finished, and software
availability and the critical reaction are the main factors. "It wouldn't be
good if there were a stack of games released at launch, and then a long
period afterward without game releases," Kutaragi said, presumably calling
to mind the PS2 launch in some people's minds. "So we need to look ahead. We
want to make sure that we have a steady release [schedule] before announcing
the launch date."

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good thing about the price not being set. Sony is waiting to see the
reaction to PSP at TGS from developers, users, distributers. I doubt the
reported $300 price will stand :)
 
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