windows 10 no driver support for ati graphics cards.

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hey all,

maybe someone here can give me a reason why amd / ati doesn't support there graphics cards for windows 10.
it shouldn't matter what card i have and i base that on the fact that nvidia supports every graphics card and integrated graphics adapter that i own and some are 10 year old. if nvidia can give that kind of support then what is wrong with amd / ati.

i don't need to know that most people don't use computer that are 10 years old but people really still do because not everyone is able to afford a new computer every couple three years as OS change. i am using dell desktop now from 2005 running windows 10 with a supported graphics card by nvidia.

so come on amd / ati what is your problem.

thanks. the poorguy
 
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one card is ati radeon x1300 pcie that works fine on windows 7.

next card is ati radeon hd 3870 x2 pcie that works fine on windows 7.

i have a bunch of ati pcie graphics cards and yeah they are years old but that shouldn't matter although it does.

thanks
the poorguy
 
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all i get when i install windows 10 on any of my ati cards are a black screen. at this point i would be happy with a basic vga driver.

the poorguy
 
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well I guess I might as well face the fact that these cards are not going to work for windows 10. been trying all week long and no success. I am amazed that a card I paid $25.00 dollars for probably 10 years ago is still supported and a card I paid close to $300.00 for is no longer supported. no wonder amd is no longer ahead of anyone anymore.

I appreciate any help but I am giving up and will no longer buy any amd products.

the poorguy
 
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Custom cards require custom drivers, companies with massive financial losses will not spend time and money producing new drivers for dead products. It just does not increase sales.

Also the card came out in 2005 and was discontinued in 2006. AMD did not even make windows 8 drivers for it and even stopped doing windows 7 updates for this card.



 
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Yes - I agree - WRONG SUPPORT FROM AMD!
according to their page:
https://community.amd.com/docs/DOC-1313
no support for graphics cards older then HD 5000 series
I have a 4850 card which is not supported.
I get it running by using the native Win 10 driver
(nothing else is in the propagated links on this site),
but that means:
NO ACCELERATED GRAPHICS
(ie boring slow 3D content in a Browser Window)
So using the card or integrated CPU graphics makes no difference in speed - the card is not more then a burner port - and I should throw it.
But definitly not by exchanging it by one of those from AMD product line.
(To often disappointed by their software support)
BTW: official release of the Radeon HD 4800 series on June 25, 2008,
means AMD lifecycle == 7 years.

 
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The reason that AMD (and NVIDIA too) drop support for these cards is that it costs them money to pay developers to write drivers for cards that they (AMD and NVidia) aren't making money on any more. However, I will admit that I can still get Windows 10 drivers for my ol' 8800GT. AMD is strapped for cash, which may explain their missing drivers. Capitalism can be cruel.
 
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hey all,

ok I decided to pick through my junk box and found an Asus M4A785-M motherboard with a ati radeon hd 4200 integrated graphics adapter. installed windows 10 pro 64 bit and cool it all works real drivers and all.

so now I must resend my earlier statements / complaining / bitching and whining about amd /ati and state that I do have faith restored by them for releasing a driver that works for at least one of my amd / ati products.

again I appreciate all help and advice from everyone and also for putting up and listening to my B.S. as I am old and very impatient.

life is good.
the poorguy
 
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if there was a driver for windows 8.1 it should also work on windows 10



 
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@poorguy: does that mean that:
a) you got a working display
or
b) you got the CCC (ATI Control Center for driver configuration) and accelerated graphics to work?

case a) is what you can expect by the native Windows driver
case b) is what can be expected by a regular working additional graphics adapter
 
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this is better than just a working display. the display driver says ati hd 4200 display adapter.
whatever driver i got is a good one as the display is awesome as it always has been in windows 7 on this same adapter. i have my normal resolution of 1366x768.
this is the 1st ati / amd display adapter i ever got to work on windows 10.
there is no ccc installed.
what was installed was what came with the windows 10 clean install.
when i installed techincal preveiw i only had a basic vga driver and only 1024 x768 resolution and it looked like crap. that also was not on this card.

i am unable to tell you what the exact driver is as i have just entered the hospital for total teeth exaction and will be here for a few days.
 
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...the native Win 10 driver, as I guessed and it will be good enough for your needs.
But, let me explain my understanding of regular working display drivers:
I bought in 01.2009 the ATI/AMD HD4850 graphics adapter,
because one of their promotion underlines has been 'HD realtime encoding' of h264/mpeg-4.
At that time this topic has been subject of challenging hardware but nevertheless they promised - I bought -
and - DRIVER NOT WORKING.
half year later they managed to get it work - after a lot of fixes...
...and I had changed to the concurrent working product line.
Besides I'm using the card in its accelerated 3D graphics functionality context (games, webgl programming etc).
In this context you are hooked on the special driver package of the card.
You will get the full hd resolution out of the native Win 10 driver, but thats all.
I got that even with the integrated GPU of my Intel processor!
But when it comes to performance you get a noisy crap blowing 200W in the air - its not even useless - its a waste!
Again - cards like that are sold as expensive Hardware extension to fullfill special tasks.
They rely on Manufacturer provided drivers to communicate with shader units on their GPU to get massive performance boosts.
for example:
http://www.weberlebt.de/
you will see flowing waves on accelerated graphics else you get rare static drops in the watersurface of the WebGL canvas.
If this driver isn't provided the card has to be considered garbage - you should buy a new one.
But - as of my short/long term experience - I wont buy it from a company driven by 'short lifecycle' principles:
https://community.amd.com/thread/184720

Sadly enough there is just one concurrent product line from nvidia,
but their cards are better supported from the beginning and even after 10 years under Win 10.
This will surely state my decision for the next buy
(btw - I m unfortunatly not charged from nvidia by writing this)

cheers - and good luck for your teeth (and of course the remaining Hardware) - pauwau
 
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ok it sounds as though it is the native windows 10 driver and that is ok as it is just going to be a desktop web surfer.
i agree with you and i plan no more ati / amd purchases. sad but true as i like amd processors.
creative audio / labs is also on my stuff to not buy for the same reasons.
i do and seem to still have good luck with nvidia graphics adapters and have always been able to get real drivers even with linux of course linux also offers the open source drivers and that is all that is available for ati / amd graphics adapters.

thanks for the input.

in the hospital getting teeth cut out and implants installed.
i feel as though someone beat me in the face with a 2x4.

the poorguy
 
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Your experience of the native ATI/AMD Win10 driver doesn't match my experience. One of my laptops has an old 4860 mobility radeon, and the "native" driver provided by Microsoft gives me full 3d acceleration (it runs Skyrim at the same FPS as the old Win7 install), though it doesn't magically provide DirectX 11 or 12 functionality. Not sure about H.264 acceleration though...
 
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did you try the above mentioned link.
It should be accelerated in firefox - got it - except of win 10 native driver environment 8-(
 
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