Windows 10 update install questions

[poundej]

Hi Guys,

Just a few questions on the upcoming Windows 10 rollout.

Is it better to do an 'Upgrade' or a 'Clean Install'?

Is there a way to keep some of my big files (GTA 5) for example, whilst doing a Clean Install?

If i do a Clean Install, can I install my copy of Windows 10 onto an SSD? Baring in mind my current Windows 8.1 is on a HDD?

 

[Ubrales]

An Upgrade will retain your programs and will update the OS to the same 32-bit or 64-bit as the case may be. (You cannot use Upgrade to go from 32-bit to 64-bit).

A Clean install will wipe out everything and you can go from 32-bit to 64-bit (if you have the install disk).

When you are installing a new OS it is best to have only one disk (HDD or SSD) connected to the system.

Most questions are answered here - http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?faq=upgrade&ocid=reserve_r_PostReserve_mod1_faq

 

[mcnumpty23]

its up to you i have done all the previews as in place upgrade

never lost any data at all

changing from hdd to ssd doesnt normally require reactivation i dont think--changing cpu or motherboard will

dont think you can keep gta v with a clean install--though if its a steam game you can move it

 

[poundej]

An Upgrade will retain your programs and will update the OS to the same 32-bit or 64-bit as the case may be. (You cannot use Upgrade to go from 32-bit to 64-bit).

A Clean install will wipe out everything and you can go from 32-bit to 64-bit (if you have the install disk).

When you are installing a new OS it is best to have only one disk (HDD or SSD) connected to the system.

I am doing the update through the system rollout so I won't have a Install Disk... i mean I have the windows 8.1 disk if thats what you mean?

Is it better to do a Clean Install then? I heard it would be better because old Windows 8.1 files can still linger around affecting storage and performance?

 

[MarkW]

Once you get invited (you cannot just go download it yet, and probably wont be able to until invited), and you agree to be upgraded, your system will install Windows 10. Once that has been completed, you will be able to create a Windows 10 disk, and then do a clean install.

The Windows 10 rollout is going to be a slow process. Some people have been invited to upgrade on July 29th. But its a pretty small group. Microsoft will wait to see how that goes, try to fix some of the bugs that get reported, and then they will invite another slightly larger group, and see how that goes, try to fix more newly reported bugs, and continue with that process for months.

Eventually, everyone that made a "reservation" will have it, and then it will open to everyone. But I expect that we will be into October at a minimum before everyone that wants to upgrade, can upgrade.

You have a full year from July 29th to make up your mind on if you want to upgrade. Be very, very certain that you want to upgrade to Windows 10 before you do it. Microsoft wants all of us on Windows 10. They may not want to let us move back to our current versions of Windows once we have upgraded.

 

[mcnumpty23]

if you are in the windows insider program you can download the iso

i have the iso but havent actually tried a clean install with it as in place upgrade was more likely to cause problems thats the way i chose to test it

a clean install is always the best option

if your games arent steam most but not every game allows copying the save game to a new drive

 

[Ubrales]

An Upgrade will retain your programs and will update the OS to the same 32-bit or 64-bit as the case may be. (You cannot use Upgrade to go from 32-bit to 64-bit).

A Clean install will wipe out everything and you can go from 32-bit to 64-bit (if you have the install disk).

When you are installing a new OS it is best to have only one disk (HDD or SSD) connected to the system.

I am doing the update through the system rollout so I won't have a Install Disk... i mean I have the windows 8.1 disk if thats what you mean?

Is it better to do a Clean Install then? I heard it would be better because old Windows 8.1 files can still linger around affecting storage and performance?

I mean the Win 10 DVD for a Clean install/

And yes, a Clean install will give you no problems.

Answers here - http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?faq=upgrade&ocid=reserve_r_PostReserve_mod1_faq

 

[Rogue Leader]

Once you get invited (you cannot just go download it yet, and probably wont be able to until invited), and you agree to be upgraded, your system will install Windows 10. Once that has been completed, you will be able to create a Windows 10 disk, and then do a clean install.

The Windows 10 rollout is going to be a slow process. Some people have been invited to upgrade on July 29th. But its a pretty small group. Microsoft will wait to see how that goes, try to fix some of the bugs that get reported, and then they will invite another slightly larger group, and see how that goes, try to fix more newly reported bugs, and continue with that process for months.

Eventually, everyone that made a "reservation" will have it, and then it will open to everyone. But I expect that we will be into October at a minimum before everyone that wants to upgrade, can upgrade.

You have a full year from July 29th to make up your mind on if you want to upgrade. Be very, very certain that you want to upgrade to Windows 10 before you do it. Microsoft wants all of us on Windows 10. They may not want to let us move back to our current versions of Windows once we have upgraded.

I'm curious as to where you get your information. I've seen you post this in multiple threads and I have not see anything at all to indicate this is true. Being that Windows 10 was released already to PC builders your theory doesn't really hold water as almost any new PC that wasn't built before the beginning of the month that you buy in August will have it. While every single user probably won't get the prompt right on July 29th. The rollout will be fairly efficient.

All that bug testing was done already, that was the point of the insider program and all the folks that are currently running previews. I would say within a couple weeks of July 29th everyone who wants Win 10 will have it available to them.

 

[Ubrales]

Before you do any kind of Upgrade or Clean Install, backup your computer to an external disk. Backups are always a good thing to do regularly!

 

[mcnumpty23]

far as i am aware

yes you will be able to buy a new pc on the 29th with 10 on it--how many will be available is another matter

windows insider testers will be among the first to get 10 as a thank you for testing--my current preview no longer has the version number showing on the desktop so it may be possible i can already do a clean install

but i havent tried yet

a staggered release through windows update makes sense as hundreds of millions of people trying to download it at the same time would likely crash the servers

couple more days and we will know a lot more about it all any way

 

[orlbuckeye]

Hi Guys,

Just a few questions on the upcoming Windows 10 rollout.

Is it better to do an 'Upgrade' or a 'Clean Install'?

Is there a way to keep some of my big files (GTA 5) for example, whilst doing a Clean Install?

If i do a Clean Install, can I install my copy of Windows 10 onto an SSD? Baring in mind my current Windows 8.1 is on a HDD?

Well you can't do a clean install unless you do the upgrade first.

The way the upgrade works is when you install the upgrade from Windows 7 or 8.1 in the process Windows 10 gets reactivated. In other words you get the new Windows 10 key. You can then download the clean install ISO and it will use the new key. So in other words your upgraded product key will work and you Windows 10 new key will work.

 

[Gabrielrr]

Hi Guys,

Just a few questions on the upcoming Windows 10 rollout.

Is it better to do an 'Upgrade' or a 'Clean Install'?

Is there a way to keep some of my big files (GTA 5) for example, whilst doing a Clean Install?

If i do a Clean Install, can I install my copy of Windows 10 onto an SSD? Baring in mind my current Windows 8.1 is on a HDD?

Well you can't do a clean install unless you do the upgrade first.

The way the upgrade works is when you install the upgrade from Windows 7 or 8.1 in the process Windows 10 gets reactivated. In other words you get the new Windows 10 key. You can then download the clean install ISO and it will use the new key. So in other words your upgraded product key will work and you Windows 10 new key will work.

not sure I understand you. if one buys a new ssd to replace the hdd win 7, does he upgrade the hdd to win 10, create ISO on usb, replace hdd w sdd(no OS on it), boot fm usb and do the clean install? if the answer is yes, great. also if he backed up his hdd win 7, will that do him any good w the clean install on the sdd?

 

[orlbuckeye]

Yes but if you did the upgrade on the HD Win 7 the system restore partition won't be touched. But it would make system restore DVD's from the Windows 7 HD before you do the upgrade just in case. Then you will have a dvd or usb for Windows 7 and Windows 10.

 

[Gabrielrr]

Yes but if you did the upgrade on the HD Win 7 the system restore partition won't be touched. But it would make system restore DVD's from the Windows 7 HD before you do the upgrade just in case. Then you will have a dvd or usb for Windows 7 and Windows 10.

 

[Gabrielrr]

Yes but if you did the upgrade on the HD Win 7 the system restore partition won't be touched. But it would make system restore DVD's from the Windows 7 HD before you do the upgrade just in case. Then you will have a dvd or usb for Windows 7 and Windows 10.

 

[Gabrielrr]

thanks for this quick answer...Yes but if you did the upgrade on the HD Win 7 the system restore partition won't be touched. But it would make system restore DVD's from the Windows 7 HD before you do the upgrade just in case. Then you will have a dvd or usb for Windows 7 and Windows 10.

I believe you agreed w what I previously asked but added to backup win 7 hdd before upgrading hdd with win 10. Then also backup win 10, AND create a clean install usb or dvd. THEN swap hdd for sdd and do the clean install? obviously important that I get this right! just had another thought....if I can clone the sdd would that speed process? could clone now or after upgrade to win10. lots of questions so if u can break your answer down so I know which question you are answering I would appreciate it!

 

[MarkW]

Once you get invited (you cannot just go download it yet, and probably wont be able to until invited), and you agree to be upgraded, your system will install Windows 10. Once that has been completed, you will be able to create a Windows 10 disk, and then do a clean install.

The Windows 10 rollout is going to be a slow process. Some people have been invited to upgrade on July 29th. But its a pretty small group. Microsoft will wait to see how that goes, try to fix some of the bugs that get reported, and then they will invite another slightly larger group, and see how that goes, try to fix more newly reported bugs, and continue with that process for months.

Eventually, everyone that made a "reservation" will have it, and then it will open to everyone. But I expect that we will be into October at a minimum before everyone that wants to upgrade, can upgrade.

You have a full year from July 29th to make up your mind on if you want to upgrade. Be very, very certain that you want to upgrade to Windows 10 before you do it. Microsoft wants all of us on Windows 10. They may not want to let us move back to our current versions of Windows once we have upgraded.

I'm curious as to where you get your information. I've seen you post this in multiple threads and I have not see anything at all to indicate this is true.

Someday, we will even succeed at teaching you how to use Google

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2952407/microsoft-windows/on-the-road-to-windows-10-rollout-plans-and-rumors.html

http://www.newsfactor.com/news/Windows-10-Rollout-Gets-Underway/story.xhtml?story_id=122003ZG9PQI

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-goes-public-with-more-details-on-its-windows-10-rollout-plan/

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/2/8883325/windows-10-will-roll-out-in-waves

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/02/microsoft-sets-gradual-rollout-for-windows-10/

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+July+29+Windows+10+Launch+Freebies+Rollout+and+Whats+Next/article37445.htm

http://www.newsfactor.com/news/Windows-10-Rollout-Gets-Underway/story.xhtml?story_id=122003ZG9PQI

http://www.slashgear.com/windows-10-insider-program-hits-tomorrow-rollout-late-2015-30348491/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2952407/microsoft-windows/on-the-road-to-windows-10-rollout-plans-and-rumors.html

http://www.cio.com/article/2947910/windows/the-takeaway-as-windows-10-rollout-nears-microsoft-halts-preview-releases.html

http://techreport.com/news/28579/microsoft-plans-phased-rollout-for-windows-10-upgraders

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/20/microsoft-windows-10-upgrade-google-and-apple

http://mashable.com/2015/07/13/windows-10-rollout-plans/

 

[Rogue Leader]

Once you get invited (you cannot just go download it yet, and probably wont be able to until invited), and you agree to be upgraded, your system will install Windows 10. Once that has been completed, you will be able to create a Windows 10 disk, and then do a clean install.

The Windows 10 rollout is going to be a slow process. Some people have been invited to upgrade on July 29th. But its a pretty small group. Microsoft will wait to see how that goes, try to fix some of the bugs that get reported, and then they will invite another slightly larger group, and see how that goes, try to fix more newly reported bugs, and continue with that process for months.

Eventually, everyone that made a "reservation" will have it, and then it will open to everyone. But I expect that we will be into October at a minimum before everyone that wants to upgrade, can upgrade.

You have a full year from July 29th to make up your mind on if you want to upgrade. Be very, very certain that you want to upgrade to Windows 10 before you do it. Microsoft wants all of us on Windows 10. They may not want to let us move back to our current versions of Windows once we have upgraded.

I'm curious as to where you get your information. I've seen you post this in multiple threads and I have not see anything at all to indicate this is true.

Someday, we will even succeed at teaching you how to use Google

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2952407/microsoft-windows/on-the-road-to-windows-10-rollout-plans-and-rumors.html

http://www.newsfactor.com/news/Windows-10-Rollout-Gets-Underway/story.xhtml?story_id=122003ZG9PQI

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-goes-public-with-more-details-on-its-windows-10-rollout-plan/

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/2/8883325/windows-10-will-roll-out-in-waves

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/02/microsoft-sets-gradual-rollout-for-windows-10/

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+July+29+Windows+10+Launch+Freebies+Rollout+and+Whats+Next/article37445.htm

http://www.newsfactor.com/news/Windows-10-Rollout-Gets-Underway/story.xhtml?story_id=122003ZG9PQI

http://www.slashgear.com/windows-10-insider-program-hits-tomorrow-rollout-late-2015-30348491/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2952407/microsoft-windows/on-the-road-to-windows-10-rollout-plans-and-rumors.html

http://www.cio.com/article/2947910/windows/the-takeaway-as-windows-10-rollout-nears-microsoft-halts-preview-releases.html

http://techreport.com/news/28579/microsoft-plans-phased-rollout-for-windows-10-upgraders

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/20/microsoft-windows-10-upgrade-google-and-apple

http://mashable.com/2015/07/13/windows-10-rollout-plans/

Wow. Could you be any douchier in your response?

And the best part is I DID use Google to find those and none of them said "Months" like you claim. If you actually read the articles it says that MS is testing the upgrade experience for users, and continuing the rollout, not doing bug fixes on Windows 10. Thats what beta releases are for.

Telling people they will probably be waiting months to actually download Windows 10 is patently not true.

 

[MarkW]

Why do people get offended so easily? I was laughing when I put that list together. I do not sit here trying to offend people. I prefer to laugh at things and enjoy the day. Take things from that view point, and you day will be better day.

Now, I pulled this out of the infoworld link. This is hinted at in other articles as well...

At some point Microsoft needs to cast the net a little wider and allow upgrades to Win7 SP1 and Win 8.1 Update PCs. My guess (again, it's only a guess) is that Insiders will be allowed to perform those upgrades first, before unleashing the Pamplona ninja cats on the GWX crowd.

Once the wailing has died down and the telemetry comes through relatively bloodless, expect to see the upgrade roll out to those who have signed up through GWX. They'll probably be upgraded in batches. That's when we'll see if the real pioneers survive.

I doubt that Microsoft will release any upgrade numbers, but it'd sure be interesting to see how many people get upgraded by the time the GWX crowd goes through.

Once the GWX group has been processed -- we're probably talking a month, or even two -- I expect Microsoft will redouble its efforts to push out advertisements to computers that didn't get ads in the first round. Those appear to include PCs with old hardware, possibly with programs that are known not to work on Windows 10.

Somewhere along the line, in the next few weeks to few months, every Win7 SP1 or Win8.1 Update computer that qualifies for the Current Branch for (forced) updates should be able to upgrade through Windows Update. Whether the owners will want to upgrade is a completely different story, but Microsoft's marketing machine is already churning.