[SOLVED] Windows 11 lags all the time with an RTX 4070 Ti Super and a Ryzen 5900X ?

[Santiavi]

I recently bought an Rtx 4070 ti super graphics card, I was very excited about this change after using a radeon RX580 for years, I uninstalled all the drivers from my amd card with DUD, and installed the new nvidia ones once installed, but bad news I have lags all the time on Windows 11 system, even on YouTube the GPU slows down and the videos are choppy, the mouse cursor moves with lag, I have tried many times uninstalling the drivers in safe mode and reinstalling the latest drivers and it does not fix it, does someone please have an idea or has the same thing happened to them, my Hardware is a Ryzen 5900x with 32gb of Ram, liquid cooling. Thanks for your help.

 

[rcald2000]

questions
What are you full specs, including your motherboard and your power supply's mfg and models? Monitor plugged into the GPU, and not the motherboard? Verify that your RAM is plugged into the slots recommended by your motherboard user manual?

recommendations
Update your BIOS to the latest non-beta version (obtain from motherboard website). What's the current BIOS version/date?
Update chipset drivers (obtain from amd website, not motherboard website): AMD.com -> Resources & Support -> Drivers -> Chipsets ->
Download HWMonitor and check cpu temps: Ryzen 9 5900X -> Temperatures -> Package -> Value
* I'm aware that your cpu is under a liquid cooler, but you need to verify temps while your CPU is under gaming load. Perhaps the pump is no long working.

 

[js2]

Likely little to do with the cards drivers and more to do with background tasks and temps.
Also check you are using hardware acceleration in your browser.

 

[Santiavi]

questions
What are you full specs, including your motherboard and your power supply's mfg and models? Monitor plugged into the GPU, and not the motherboard? Verify that your RAM is plugged into the slots recommended by your motherboard user manual?

recommendations
Update your BIOS to the latest non-beta version (obtain from motherboard website). What's the current BIOS version/date?
Update chipset drivers (obtain from amd website, not motherboard website): AMD.com -> Resources & Support -> Drivers -> Chipsets ->
Download HWMonitor and check cpu temps: Ryzen 9 5900X -> Temperatures -> Package -> Value
* I'm aware that your cpu is under a liquid cooler, but you need to verify temps while your CPU is under gaming load. Perhaps the pump is no long working.

Thank you very much for all your recommendations, I will apply them, my complete specifications are: ryzen 5900x cpu, Gigabyte B550M Aorus pro V. 2 motherboard, PSU: Evga SuperNova1300w Gold 80+ 32gb DDR4 2666mhz Corsair vengeance RAM, Corsair H100i liquid cooling. The strange thing is that it works perfectly with the rx580 graphics card, in fact I had to put in my old card and install the AMD drivers again and it works perfectly, the CPU temperatures are correct (70 celcius), I will follow all your recommendations and I will let you know, thanks for your help.

 

[Santiavi]

questions
What are you full specs, including your motherboard and your power supply's mfg and models? Monitor plugged into the GPU, and not the motherboard? Verify that your RAM is plugged into the slots recommended by your motherboard user manual?

recommendations
Update your BIOS to the latest non-beta version (obtain from motherboard website). What's the current BIOS version/date?
Update chipset drivers (obtain from amd website, not motherboard website): AMD.com -> Resources & Support -> Drivers -> Chipsets ->
Download HWMonitor and check cpu temps: Ryzen 9 5900X -> Temperatures -> Package -> Value
* I'm aware that your cpu is under a liquid cooler, but you need to verify temps while your CPU is under gaming load. Perhaps the pump is no long working.

I have done all your suggestions, updated the chipset from Amd, updated the bios to the latest version, although it was not very old, and I was not successful, I even did a clean installation of windows 11 with the Nvidia drivers and it is still the same, with mouse jumps and poor GPU performance. I did a test with Furmark2 Rog in 4k and checked with HWmonitor, the GPU does not reach the Watts that it should reach, which are 285w or more and the temperatures are obviously very low 55 C, which makes me think that it is a problem with the power supply or the 12-pin adapter cable. I leave you some screenshots so that you can please review them. Thank you. https://imgbox.com/upload/edit/824707457/Sw5dU2nTd7XNFlt6

 

[rcald2000]

Are you using a riser cable or vertical GPU mount? If so, could you try plugging the GPU directly in the board. If no change, then check in the BIOS and verify that the RTX 4070 Ti is achieving PCIe 4.0 x16 on the primary slot that the GPU plugged into.

 

[Santiavi]

Are you using a riser cable or vertical GPU mount? If so, could you try plugging the GPU directly in the board. If no change, then check in the BIOS and verify that the RTX 4070 Ti is achieving PCIe 4.0 x16 on the primary slot that the GPU plugged into.

The GPU is connected directly to the motherboard in the main x16 slot, I will check in the bios if 4.0 x16 is working, thanks for your suggestion.

 

[rcald2000]

I don't know what's causing your issue, therefore I'm grasping at straws. BUT perhaps check out this forum posting from overclockers, and VOD from buildzoid. This source information is several years old, and I would assume that the issue was fixed promptly with your current BIOS, but couldn't hurt to try it anyway (below). Check out both the forum post and video in it. It also might be worth opening a ticket with Gigabyte if it doesn't solve the problem, and consider trying the GPU on another computer, before potentially returning it to the retailer where you bought it from.

BIOS > Advanced CPU Settings > Global C-state control > Disabled

Potential fix for USB 2.0 hitching/stuttering on Gigabyte/Aorus B550 and X570 motherboards

Potential fix for USB 2.0 hitching/stuttering on Gigabyte/Aorus B550 and X570 motherboards

Seems to be an issue with recent BIOS. It's been brought up often enough that this isn't just some boards, it's a pretty big amount of them having issues. Anyway if you want the quick tl;dr BIOS > Advanced CPU Settings > Global C-state control > Disabled Also reports of MSI suffering from...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

google query: gigabyte b550m aorus pro v. 2 stuttering fix

 

[DaleH]

Thank you very much for all your recommendations, I will apply them, my complete specifications are: ryzen 5900x cpu, Gigabyte B550M Aorus pro V. 2 motherboard, PSU: Evga SuperNova1300w Gold 80+ 32gb DDR4 2666mhz Corsair vengeance RAM, Corsair H100i liquid cooling. The strange thing is that it works perfectly with the rx580 graphics card, in fact I had to put in my old card and install the AMD drivers again and it works perfectly, the CPU temperatures are correct (70 celcius), I will follow all your recommendations and I will let you know, thanks for your help.

If it works perfectly with your old graphics card, then I'd suspect that the new card is drawing more power from the power supply, so I'd try replacing the PSU.

 

[helper800]

If it works perfectly with your old graphics card, then I'd suspect that the new card is drawing more power from the power supply, so I'd try replacing the PSU.

I seriously doubt the PSU is the cause. PSUs either can or cannot deliver the power requirements. If it cannot, the PC shuts off with a black screen. If it can provide the required power, it is business as usual. It is exceedingly rare that a PSU causes anything other than the two provided explanations above.

 

[Santiavi]

I seriously doubt the PSU is the cause. PSUs either can or cannot deliver the power requirements. If it cannot, the PC shuts off with a black screen. If it can provide the required power, it is business as usual. It is exceedingly rare that a PSU causes anything other than the two provided explanations above.

Thanks for your explanation, it makes a lot of sense and I think it is like that because the computer has worked perfectly with the other video card, now the strange thing is that I have put the Rtx 4070 ti super in another computer and it works perfectly, that is to say the problem is with the bios of the Gigabyte B550M pro motherboard.

 

[Santiavi]

If it works perfectly with your old graphics card, then I'd suspect that the new card is drawing more power from the power supply, so I'd try replacing the PSU.

The PSU is 1300w, it's an EVGA Super Nova 80 Gold plus, I don't think the problem is the power supply.

 

[Santiavi]

I don't know what's causing your issue, therefore I'm grasping at straws. BUT perhaps check out this forum posting from overclockers, and VOD from buildzoid. This source information is several years old, and I would assume that the issue was fixed promptly with your current BIOS, but couldn't hurt to try it anyway (below). Check out both the forum post and video in it. It also might be worth opening a ticket with Gigabyte if it doesn't solve the problem, and consider trying the GPU on another computer, before potentially returning it to the retailer where you bought it from.

BIOS > Advanced CPU Settings > Global C-state control > Disabled

Potential fix for USB 2.0 hitching/stuttering on Gigabyte/Aorus B550 and X570 motherboards

Potential fix for USB 2.0 hitching/stuttering on Gigabyte/Aorus B550 and X570 motherboards

Seems to be an issue with recent BIOS. It's been brought up often enough that this isn't just some boards, it's a pretty big amount of them having issues. Anyway if you want the quick tl;dr BIOS > Advanced CPU Settings > Global C-state control > Disabled Also reports of MSI suffering from...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

google query: gigabyte b550m aorus pro v. 2 stuttering fix

Thanks for your reply, I have had Global states disabled for a long time because it was giving me problems with the Ryzen 5900x processor. Now I have tested the RTX 4070 ti super in another computer and it works perfectly, what I can rule out is the video card and I think the PSU is working well because otherwise my computer would not work as I have had it until now, what remains is the motherboard which I think is where the problem is, I am going to contact Gigabyte to see if they can solve this problem, thank you very much for your help that undoubtedly helped me a lot to discover the possible solution.

 

[Santiavi]

I have been able to solve my problem halfway, I discovered that the problem was the ryzen 5900x processor. I suppose I am the only one with that problem because I could not find someone else with the same problem, luckily I had someone who lent me a ryzen 5800x processor and the results were as expected, for this I had already bought a new motherboard and I also tried with another power supply, so I deduced that it was the processor, something totally unexpected. What I have not been able to determine if it is something from the factory of my processor or something in the configuration of my computer, since I have tried with another Amd graphics card and it works perfectly. The problem is only with the RTX 4070 ti Super, if someone has an idea I would greatly appreciate it. Attached here are some performance tests with the 5900x + RTX 4070 ti Super, 5900x + RX580, 5800x + 4070 ti Super processor. https://imgbox.com/upload/edit/825542477/jjIb4LcVz5aGwwtx

 

[triplex1]

the processor and the graphic card when booting suck current like a vacuum cleaner, your processor hasn't absolutely nothing, as far as I know, your problem is in your graphic card, try to make it an undervolt with the afterburner, look at the results and tell us , and check your cables or adapter you have for 4070

 

[--SID--]

32gb DDR4 2666mhz Corsair vengeance RAM

What's the modelnumber of the RAM?

What BIOS version is the motherboard running?

 

[Santiavi]

What's the modelnumber of the RAM?

What BIOS version is the motherboard running?

I have 4 RAM modules, that is, each module is 8GB each, on both motherboards I installed the latest version of BIOS. The solution was to change the processor, but I don't understand why my 5900x processor doesn't work with this video card.

 

[Santiavi]

the processor and the graphic card when booting suck current like a vacuum cleaner, your processor hasn't absolutely nothing, as far as I know, your problem is in your graphic card, try to make it an undervolt with the afterburner, look at the results and tell us , and check your cables or adapter you have for 4070

The video card is working perfectly with the ryzen 5800x processor but not with the 5900x, I don't understand why?

 

[triplex1]

I have 4 RAM modules, that is, each module is 8GB each, on both motherboards I installed the latest version of BIOS. The solution was to change the processor, but I don't understand why my 5900x processor doesn't work with this video card.

Did you see the 4 modules you have, what chipsets did they use?

 

[Santiavi]

I have been able to solve the problem finally, the path to the solution was very difficult and tiring, but it is actually very simple and it seems that this problem is very common with AMD chips from what I have read in some forums, the PCIe 4.0 port does not work well on some chips, mine is a Ryzen 9 5900x so it would not be a problem but it does not work and only works in version 1.1 when it is in 4.0, so not enough power reaches the graphics card, the solution was to put PCIe 3.0 in the Bios and everything works well although a little performance is lost.

 

[SteveB84]

I have been able to solve the problem finally, the path to the solution was very difficult and tiring, but it is actually very simple and it seems that this problem is very common with AMD chips from what I have read in some forums, the PCIe 4.0 port does not work well on some chips, mine is a Ryzen 9 5900x so it would not be a problem but it does not work and only works in version 1.1 when it is in 4.0, so not enough power reaches the graphics card, the solution was to put PCIe 3.0 in the Bios and everything works well although a little performance is lost.

I know this is an old thread now but i had to reply to say thank you! Just upgraded my gpu from an RTX 2060 to a 4070 super and was absolutely plagued with lag. Mucked about with drivers, DDU, chipset and BIOS, nothing. But then i came across your post an BINGO! that did the trick. Thank you again 🙏

 

[Santiavi]

I know this is an old thread now but i had to reply to say thank you! Just upgraded my gpu from an RTX 2060 to a 4070 super and was absolutely plagued with lag. Mucked about with drivers, DDU, chipset and BIOS, nothing. But then i came across your post an BINGO! that did the trick. Thank you again 🙏

I'm glad to know that you were able to fix your problem with the solution to mine. You don't know how long it took me to solve it. That's the idea, to leave a solution in writing so that other people can solve theirs. And thank you for saying thank you, I really appreciate it.