Windows 11 slow boot and programhandling

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When i got my new system with an NVMe pcie 4.0 7000/7000 drive from Kingston, I was expecting some firework. My first time ever having an NVMe drive, my old system had a standard 500/500ish SSD drive. I thought windows would start right up no problem. Every action in windows would be lightning quick and so on. However, booting Windows takes forever. First it takes a long time getting through the BIOS screen from MSI. Then when windows appears, the wheel under my user name just turns and turns and turns, until finally it will boot up my desktop. And then it's another wait before Chrome or any other programs on that desktop appears.

I just ran a speed check and it said I got all of the 7000/7000 speed expected.

My system:
MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi
AMD 7600x
Kingston 6000mhz CL36 32GB
AMD 6950xt
Kingston KC3000 2TB NVMe
Corsair 850 PSU

Edit: Just uninstalled the software I used to test my disk speed... took forever.
 
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Key is to discover what is happening when the computer is slow.

Configure BIOS to be as verbose as possible and display what it is doing or trying to do during the boot process.

Once Windows is running:

Look in Task Manager, Resource Monitor, and Process Explorer to determine what Windows is doing or trying to do during those slow times.

Use all three tools but only one tool at a time.

Could be that the system is attempting to do updates, backups, or some app is simply trying to "phone home".

Also look in Reliability History/Monitor and Event Viewer. Either one or both tools may provide some insight about what the system has been doing or tring to do.

Consider that Task Manager > Startup is launching some background app that got slipped in during configuration. Or that the app is buggy or corrupted.
 
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Ralston18 said:
Key is to discover what is happening when the computer is slow.

Configure BIOS to be as verbose as possible and display what it is doing or trying to do during the boot process.

Once Windows is running:

Look in Task Manager, Resource Monitor, and Process Explorer to determine what Windows is doing or trying to do during those slow times.

Use all three tools but only one tool at a time.

Could be that the system is attempting to do updates, backups, or some app is simply trying to "phone home".

Also look in Reliability History/Monitor and Event Viewer. Either one or both tools may provide some insight about what the system has been doing or tring to do.

Consider that Task Manager > Startup is launching some background app that got slipped in during configuration. Or that the app is buggy or corrupted.
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How do I configure a verbose bios?
 
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I agree with Dark lord, sounds like you have a bad nvme drive. If its new, RMA it and get another one.

Wetles89 said:
I was expecting some firework. My first time ever having an NVMe drive, my old system had a standard 500/500ish SSD drive. I thought windows would start right up no problem. Every action in windows would be lightning quick and so on.
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They are meant to be everything you said in opening post. Yours not doing that is a sign its just a bad drive. It happens, just replace it. Its under warranty I expect.


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However, booting Windows takes forever. First it takes a long time getting through the BIOS screen from MSI. Then when windows appears, the wheel under my user name just turns and turns and turns, until finally it will boot up my desktop. And then it's another wait before Chrome or any other programs on that desktop appears.
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the slow bios shows the BIOS is waiting for something to reply. The other actions would suggest that something is the nvme.

I doubt its a firmware problem but could try https://www.kingston.com/en/support/technical/ssdmanager
 
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Colif said:
They are meant to be everything you said in opening post. Yours not doing that is a sign its just a bad drive. It happens, just replace it. Its under warranty I expect.
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Thanks for the replay. If it's a bad drive, should I expect to see 7000/7000 read speeds in tests? Cause that is what i'am seeing.

Edit: I have ran the Kinston disk manager, and the software is reporting a clean bill of health. And games like Starfield is loading pretty quick.
 
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Testing software can't see hardware faults. If there is something wrong with the controller on the nvme, for instance.

try a clean boot and see if it makes any difference - make sure to read instructions and make sure NOT to disable any microsoft services or windows won't load right - https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/929135/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows

It doesn’t delete anything, it just stops non Microsoft programs running with start. Easy to reverse.

if clean boot fixes it, it shows its likely a startup program. You should, over a number of startups. restart the programs you stopped to isolate the one that is to blame.

It shouldn't be as it has no effect on bios.

Other option is see what its like in safe mode
go to settings/system/recovery
Next to advanced startup, click restart now
this restarts windows in a blue menu
  1. choose troubleshoot
  2. choose advanced
  3. choose startup settings
  4. click the restart button
  5. choose a safe mode (it doesn't matter which) by using number associated with it.
  6. Pc will restart and load safe mode

if its still really slow in here, its likely to be hardware
if its fast, the problem could be drivers.

If problem isn't nvme, its sure looks like it.
 
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Colif said:
Testing software can't see hardware faults. If there is something wrong with the controller on the nvme, for instance.

try a clean boot and see if it makes any difference - make sure to read instructions and make sure NOT to disable any microsoft services or windows won't load right - https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/929135/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows

It doesn’t delete anything, it just stops non Microsoft programs running with start. Easy to reverse.

if clean boot fixes it, it shows its likely a startup program. You should, over a number of startups. restart the programs you stopped to isolate the one that is to blame.

It shouldn't be as it has no effect on bios.

Other option is see what its like in safe mode
go to settings/system/recovery
Next to advanced startup, click restart now
this restarts windows in a blue menu
  1. choose troubleshoot
  2. choose advanced
  3. choose startup settings
  4. click the restart button
  5. choose a safe mode (it doesn't matter which) by using number associated with it.
  6. Pc will restart and load safe mode

if its still really slow in here, its likely to be hardware
if its fast, the problem could be drivers.

If problem isn't nvme, its sure looks like it.
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Thank you very much. Sorry for my delayed response. I think I have isolated the problem. Its a program called AMD external event utility. Is this a known program for startup problems? Do i delete this program?

After disabling this program windows load right up. However its still very slow into the bios screen, but after bios, its straight into windows.
 
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