News Windows 12 will be launched with a raft of AI PCs in June 2024, according to Taiwan’s Commercial Times

[Admin]

Windows 12 will launch in June 2024, coinciding with a wave of AI PCs, according to a new report based on information gleaned from a recent tech exhibition in Taipei.

Windows 12 will be launched with a raft of AI PCs in June 2024, according to Taiwan’s Commercial Times : Read more

 

[Sluggotg]

So, we are all supposed to ditch Win11 in June.... I still have multiple computers running Win7. I have a whole bunch running Win10. My only Win11 machines are two new laptops. I don't like Win11. I am hoping I will like Win12 but we will see.

I wonder what kind of Stupid Interface Changes MS will make to Win12? Will they continue to hide more and more options?

Ultimately MS is still trying to get a "Pay per Use" or "Annual Subscription" model going. Many companies have done that and more are following. That will end my relationship with MS if they do succeed implementing something like that with Windows.

 

[USAFRet]

So, we are all supposed to ditch Win11 in June

No, you're not.

Win 11 is fully supported for another 2 years, minimum. Likely, much farther than that.

 

[btmedic04]

Windows 10; the last version of windows my a..... 🤣

 

[Co BIY]

Need some articles about these Ai PCs. Never heard of em.

 

[ThomasKinsley]

If AI in W12 is a personal offline model that you can train and reshape, then I will be very excited, but if it's mere access to a generic model hosted on a cloud server, then I don't see how it differs from ChatGPT in a web browser. Let's get some real innovation in the AI space.

 

[Giroro]

Windows 10; the last version of windows my a..... 🤣

Well, the last version that anybody's going to want to use

 

[Giroro]

What is an "AI PC"
Is it just any computer with a web browser to log into all the cloud-compute subscription services they're going to make us buy?

 

[Rabohinf]

'OK Google, how do I disable Microsoft AI?"

 

[zipspyder]

What is an "AI PC"
Is it just any computer with a web browser to log into all the cloud-compute subscription services they're going to make us buy?

Who knows. I'd like to know as well. It's one of those buzzwords big wig nonengineers like to throw around.

 

[vanadiel007]

But can it play Crysis? I am thinking the next big thing will be AI tiles, as an improvement to the Windows 8 tiles Good thing Windows 10 was the last version of Windows, or we would never have gotten Windows 12. Forgot to add, will the version after that be called Windows 13, or Windows Friday?

 

[evdjj3j]

What is an "AI PC"
Is it just any computer with a web browser to log into all the cloud-compute subscription services they're going to make us buy?

If only there was a website about computers that it could be explained on......hmmm.

 

[nickc120167z]

'OK Google, how do I disable Microsoft AI?"

Dave I cannot allow you to do that.

 

[rluker5]

I hope it has AI adjustments to the GUI.
"Rounder corners please"
"Do slimy transitions"
"Spooky sounding notifications"

I can hardly wait.

 

[caseym54]

Windows 10; the last version of windows my a..... 🤣

It's the last version I'm going to use. It's quite good in every way that Windows 11 is not.

 

[caseym54]

Wait until the AI starts fixing your code as you type. You thought spellcheck sucked....

 

[Colif]

So, we are all supposed to ditch Win11 in June.... I still have multiple computers running Win7. I have a whole bunch running Win10. My only Win11 machines are two new laptops. I don't like Win11. I am hoping I will like Win12 but we will see.

Depending how new those 2 win 11 machines are, they might not have the hardware required to run the AI anyway. Its only a new hardware feature, latest Intel & AMD only. So just like the Microsoft Security Processor, it appears Win 12 cutting even more PC off from upgrading to it.

This is something most people won't be getting until they upgrade to a new PC. Me included.

https://www.amd.com/en/developer/resources/ryzen-ai-software-platform.html

Intel launches AI acceleration program for PC software

Intel is trying to convince consumers that having an AI PC matters, and is partnering with more than 100 software developers to persuade them to use local AI functions running on your PC, not the cloud.

www.pcworld.com

hardware makers pushing this, sell more new hardware if windows requires it.

 

[USAFRet]

This is something most people won't be getting until they upgrade to a new PC.

That is the way the vast majority of people get any particular OS version.
It comes with the PC they buy.

 

[ekio]

I don’t want your <Mod Edit> AI !
I want that you cleanup your garbage OS with every single part featuring the same modern UI.
I am tired of this Frankenstein piece of atrocity made without the tiniest ounce of perfectionism.
I want that you rename and cleanup your stuff properly.

 

[usertests]

Depending how new those 2 win 11 machines are, they might not have the hardware required to run the AI anyway. Its only a new hardware feature, latest Intel & AMD only. So just like the Microsoft Security Processor, it appears Win 12 cutting even more PC off from upgrading to it.

This is something most people won't be getting until they upgrade to a new PC. Me included.

https://www.amd.com/en/developer/resources/ryzen-ai-software-platform.html

Intel launches AI acceleration program for PC software

Intel is trying to convince consumers that having an AI PC matters, and is partnering with more than 100 software developers to persuade them to use local AI functions running on your PC, not the cloud.

www.pcworld.com

hardware makers pushing this, sell more new hardware if windows requires it.

It's hard to believe that Microsoft wouldn't allow PCs to upgrade to a new major version of Windows without an AI chip. There's just not many of them (x86), and they won't be in desktops with the exception of mobile chips in mini PCs, and Phoenix desktop APUs. Unlike the TPM situation, where they had already been around in several generations of chips by the time Windows 11 launched.

What they might be doing is making the AI accelerators a minimum requirement for OEMs to use some sort of branding/trademark. Kind of like Chromebook Plus. So this "Windows 12" would be marketed heavily as a laptop-oriented thing, but you will still get Windows 12 preinstalled on a new Raptor Lake Refresh PC this time next year, despite a lack of AI accelerator.

They could also choose to keep Windows 11 and 12 around for several years in parallel. "Windows 12" could be a false name for something that will actually be called "Windows 11 AI Edition".

Need some articles about these Ai PCs. Never heard of em.

AMD Phoenix (7040) APUs contain an XDNA 1.0 AI accelerator (10 TOPS). Rumored to be coming to (some) 8000G desktop APUs in January 2024. Chips using the smaller 2+4-core "Phoenix2" die do not have XDNA (7545U, 7440U, 8500G, and 8300G).

AMD will launch Hawk Point APUs (Phoenix refresh) next year, allegedly with an overclocked XDNA 1.0 (16 TOPS) to satisfy a Windows 12 soft/hard requirement. Later in 2024, AMD will launch Strix Point APUs based on Zen 5, containing a much faster XDNA 2.0 AI accelerator.

Intel is launching Meteor Lake APUs on December 14, with their own "NPU" AI accelerator.

It remains to be seen when (non-mobile) desktop CPUs will get the same AI accelerators. AMD might not include them in Granite Ridge (Zen 5 desktop) next year. Intel might include them in Arrow Lake.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite for Windows on Arm PCs will have a 45 TOPS AI accelerator. AMD's Strix Point + XDNA 2.0 is rumored to hit 45-50 TOPS. So that might be the magic number Microsoft is pushing for and every new PC will have within a few years.

(1 TOPS = 1 trillion operations per second)

 

[passivecool]

will windows 11 be my new windows 8? 🤔