Windows 7 Updates on Ryzen

[Guest]

If I correctly understand, Windows 7 updates are not offered on Ryzen platform.

However is this only applicable to automatic updates that are pushed from the Microsoft or even the downloaded standalone package say a specific <Knowledge Base>.msu file would also fail to install on Ryzen system?

 

[bjornl]

Is there a reason you "must" run windows 7? By and large Windows 10 is faster and more secure. The telemetrics is annoying, but the recent updates give some over sight.

 

[das_stig]

Microsoft is still supply security fixes to Ryzen based systems running W7, until W7 is end of life.

https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc

 

[Guest]

Thank you for your responses.

Microsoft is still supply security fixes to Ryzen based systems running W7, until W7 is end of life.

I hope that means at least the security updates downloaded as standalone msi should run and install.


Is there a reason you "must" run windows 7?
I have a few programs that do not run correctly in Windows 10 and I believe for personal use with low end desktop, Windows 7 is still preferred by me as I believe it is relatively less resource hogging as compared to Windows 10.
For my next desktop I am likely to opt for Ryzen 3 with 4 GB RAM.

 

[jr9]

Trying to run Windows 7 on new platforms opens the door to many problems besides not receiving patches. You only receive critical security updates with Windows update. You also will not have USB drivers and you will have to do workarounds when you first install the OS to get your USB mouse and keyboard working. You also will have no chipset drivers for Windows 7 on any Ryzen motherboard you pick. In 2 years you no longer will recieve even critical patches on Windows 7 except in special cases.

The smart thing to do would be to get Ryzen 3 and 8GB of RAM with Windows 10. If you have any issues with particular programs and compatibility mode doesn't work, you could install Windows 7 into a virtual machine using VirtualBox or dual boot. Ryzen 3 is more than capable of handing Windows 10 and any normal programs you want to run. Most exe programs that run on 7 should also run on 10.

 

[Guest]

Trying to run Windows 7 on new platforms opens the door to many problems besides not receiving patches. You only receive critical security updates with Windows update. You also will not have USB drivers and you will have to do workarounds when you first install the OS to get your USB mouse and keyboard working. You also will have no chipset drivers for Windows 7 on any Ryzen motherboard you pick. In 2 years you no longer will recieve even critical patches on Windows 7 except in special cases.

The smart thing to do would be to get Ryzen 3 and 8GB of RAM with Windows 10. If you have any issues with particular programs and compatibility mode doesn't work, you could install Windows 7 into a virtual machine using VirtualBox or dual boot. Ryzen 3 is more than capable of handing Windows 10 and any normal programs you want to run. Most exe programs that run on 7 should also run on 10.

Basically what I am trying to understand is that, if I disable Automatic Updates and just manually download handful or critical updates (For example for Meltdown & Spectre or update against WannaCry) would the standalone msi installer run on Windows 7 on AMD or would it still shout that it's unsupported platform.

I certainly value the opinion as expressed by you and others that I should upgrade to Windows 10. However for now at least for some more time I wish to stick with Windows 7. That's why I did not even availed free upgrade to Windows 10 after it was released.

Fortunately most AM4 motherboard manufacturers have provided a utility that integrates USB and NVMe drivers into the Windows 7 installer. So I am hoping that it should not give any hangs or issues during install.
Thanks.

 

[jr9]

If Microsoft releases a manual installer patch for Windows 7 specifically to cover a critical flaw like the SMB exploit Wannacry used or Meltdown then you should be able to download and install it manually without Windows update at all. Even Windows XP will receive these special critical patches despite being end of like and completely unsupported. It just means you have to watch for big security events and patch manually instead of having Windows update do this for you automatically.

Motherboard utilities like MSI smart tool can help you get around the USB problem but you still have to prepare for having no chipset drivers, no automatic Windows updates or even normal manual updates after 2020 in Windows 7. Doing Windows 7 on M.2 on a UEFI based NVMe setup is also probably not going to work and may be another dozen hours of troubleshooting. Special motherboard features such as utility programs (RGB, fancy stuff, etc) may not work on 7 because the motherboard's chipset doesn't support the OS.

 

[bjornl]

Trying to run Windows 7 on new platforms opens the door to many problems besides not receiving patches. You only receive critical security updates with Windows update. You also will not have USB drivers and you will have to do workarounds when you first install the OS to get your USB mouse and keyboard working. You also will have no chipset drivers for Windows 7 on any Ryzen motherboard you pick. In 2 years you no longer will recieve even critical patches on Windows 7 except in special cases.

The smart thing to do would be to get Ryzen 3 and 8GB of RAM with Windows 10. If you have any issues with particular programs and compatibility mode doesn't work, you could install Windows 7 into a virtual machine using VirtualBox or dual boot. Ryzen 3 is more than capable of handing Windows 10 and any normal programs you want to run. Most exe programs that run on 7 should also run on 10.

Basically what I am trying to understand is that, if I disable Automatic Updates and just manually download handful or critical updates (For example for Meltdown & Spectre or update against WannaCry) would the standalone msi installer run on Windows 7 on AMD or would it still shout that it's unsupported platform.

I certainly value the opinion as expressed by you and others that I should upgrade to Windows 10. However for now at least for some more time I wish to stick with Windows 7. That's why I did not even availed free upgrade to Windows 10 after it was released.

Fortunately most AM4 motherboard manufacturers have provided a utility that integrates USB and NVMe drivers into the Windows 7 installer. So I am hoping that it should not give any hangs or issues during install.
Thanks.

It is a bad idea. You will be patched and up to date only once. And only if you manage to find and install all the important patches (you won't). And without an update mechanism you will be forever vulnerable to every issue until you happen to remember and go check. And if you get lucky, you will remember and occasionally be secure.