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I honestly don't see how this is a problem with the windows upgrade. honestly, i worked front-line support for vista when it came out, and we saw a lot of the same thing. in my mind, and I do not work for microsoft, and these are my own views, and not those of MS, but the problem is, people are expecting to much of the upgrade install, a good chunk of it in my mind is a best effort attempt to try to carry things over. but there are so many factors that can't be accounted for.
When I was on the phones working with this issues, there was a lot of routine prep work that I did prior to running the upgrade. like removal just about any program that had some form of built in registration because those registrations did not always carry over, and often times were impossible to re-register after the upgrade. removing any 3rd party drivers, because obviously a driver made for XP did not always work with vista, or perhaps caused file conflicts with the vista driver. MS software other than windows was also removed, reason being, things like .net framework were part of vista, and did not need to be ported through an upgrade, you can see how this may cause problems. Antivirus and Spyware removal software, often can try to undo changes being made during the install however. and the list goes on. Its not that all of those will break the install, but some may conflict after the install. . . The upgrade is really meant to be installed over a clean installation of the original OS, any thing more in my mind, is best effort
I once had a user called in after an upgrade with a startup error about the vista ui not working, although everything seemed to work fine, it turned out the customer had a vista theme pack installed on XP that wasn't removed prior to the upgrade. also performing a clean startup procedure helps, I forget which KB article that is detialed in, its been so long.
another thing i saw on several occasion were corrupted registry permissions carried over from the old OS. they not have caused any obvious problems before, but after they upgrade could cause problems trying to uninstall or update programs after the upgrade
Sometimes prep work like this for an upgrade can take as long as just doing a clean install to begin with. and it may not always be as bad as i might be making it sound either, a lot of the time it works without doing any of these steps. All I'm really saying is, I think some people are expecting to much from the upgrade installation is all
When I was on the phones working with this issues, there was a lot of routine prep work that I did prior to running the upgrade. like removal just about any program that had some form of built in registration because those registrations did not always carry over, and often times were impossible to re-register after the upgrade. removing any 3rd party drivers, because obviously a driver made for XP did not always work with vista, or perhaps caused file conflicts with the vista driver. MS software other than windows was also removed, reason being, things like .net framework were part of vista, and did not need to be ported through an upgrade, you can see how this may cause problems. Antivirus and Spyware removal software, often can try to undo changes being made during the install however. and the list goes on. Its not that all of those will break the install, but some may conflict after the install. . . The upgrade is really meant to be installed over a clean installation of the original OS, any thing more in my mind, is best effort
I once had a user called in after an upgrade with a startup error about the vista ui not working, although everything seemed to work fine, it turned out the customer had a vista theme pack installed on XP that wasn't removed prior to the upgrade. also performing a clean startup procedure helps, I forget which KB article that is detialed in, its been so long.
another thing i saw on several occasion were corrupted registry permissions carried over from the old OS. they not have caused any obvious problems before, but after they upgrade could cause problems trying to uninstall or update programs after the upgrade
Sometimes prep work like this for an upgrade can take as long as just doing a clean install to begin with. and it may not always be as bad as i might be making it sound either, a lot of the time it works without doing any of these steps. All I'm really saying is, I think some people are expecting to much from the upgrade installation is all
I remember something similar happened with some users that installed SP2 on Windows XP - I'm talking about the reboot loop. The problem was some piece of malware. Most likely we're dealing with a software incompatibility - the advice to burn your DVD at the slowest rate is just crap.
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Folks "in the know" can ignore what I am about to say.
Those that don't know no better... ( or have poor memory/short attention span. )
Remember Windows ME - Upgrade from that ? That was a joke !!!
Here are 5 basic rules for ANY os upgrade.
1 - Be kind to your data! BACK IT UP!! (this should be standard practice anyway. (watch some tv or read a book! if you have another computer. visit your favorite website.))
2 - Wipe out the crud! Reformat that hard drive. ( You will thank yourself later) (Grab a soda or coffee - tell your wife/girlfriend sig-other you love them. and take the time to show them!)
3 - Install Win7 (-don't cheat- see part two of rule 2)
4 - Re install your programs - If you don't remember how you set up your preferences -- maybe its time to take better notes and squirrel them away somewhere - reiteration: DON'T BE LAZY!!)
5 - Enjoy!
If you have multiple systems - Rinse and Repeat.
Those that don't know no better... ( or have poor memory/short attention span. )
Remember Windows ME - Upgrade from that ? That was a joke !!!
Here are 5 basic rules for ANY os upgrade.
1 - Be kind to your data! BACK IT UP!! (this should be standard practice anyway. (watch some tv or read a book! if you have another computer. visit your favorite website.))
2 - Wipe out the crud! Reformat that hard drive. ( You will thank yourself later) (Grab a soda or coffee - tell your wife/girlfriend sig-other you love them. and take the time to show them!)
3 - Install Win7 (-don't cheat- see part two of rule 2)
4 - Re install your programs - If you don't remember how you set up your preferences -- maybe its time to take better notes and squirrel them away somewhere - reiteration: DON'T BE LAZY!!)
5 - Enjoy!
If you have multiple systems - Rinse and Repeat.
If you take marcus and remove det R it says Mac us... 😱
It's a sign, he's anti Christ.
Imagine a world with only mac's :'/
It's a sign, he's anti Christ.
Imagine a world with only mac's :'/
HAHA, I went to his facebook page, the author is some goofy looking long haired Canuk. That explains so much...
How is it news that a small number of people have computers that were so screwed up in the first place that an upgrade did not work? $100 bucks says if those same people tried to load Snow Leopard on their machines it would not work either. (Lets just assume for a moment, that SN will load on a machine that isn't full of Apple's proprietary overpriced software.)
How is it news that a small number of people have computers that were so screwed up in the first place that an upgrade did not work? $100 bucks says if those same people tried to load Snow Leopard on their machines it would not work either. (Lets just assume for a moment, that SN will load on a machine that isn't full of Apple's proprietary overpriced software.)
Yam your first paragraph was shit. I stopped reading there.
Clean install time consuming? If you've ever taken the time to actually do one and compare it, you'd know that the upgrade takes much longer since it has to save the existing config.
But of course you wouldn't know that.
Clean install time consuming? If you've ever taken the time to actually do one and compare it, you'd know that the upgrade takes much longer since it has to save the existing config.
But of course you wouldn't know that.
If I got the student version of it for 30 dollars, how can i do a clean install with it? Can i download the iso and use my key that i bought?
[citation][nom]dryhtcykfctjvftgjvfkvftjk[/nom]This isn't really news...This has been an infrequent but ongoing problem with almost every previous version of Windows.[/citation]
But $even hasn't any problems of previous windblow$ versions... it can't happen to micro$uxx, just the rotten fruit has upgrade problems with deleting guest luser account files. At least the guest account is supposedly only for temporary use.
m$ botched it again big time, even vi$hta sp2+ isn't able to "upgrade" vi$hta... don't even think on older releases.
Poor yummy boy, after his gargantuan m$ a$$ licking for almost a year, now, for every slip of the tongue, all wintarded m$ fankiddies are in hate mode. Seems billy boy's a$$ is a lot more tasty to them.
But $even hasn't any problems of previous windblow$ versions... it can't happen to micro$uxx, just the rotten fruit has upgrade problems with deleting guest luser account files. At least the guest account is supposedly only for temporary use.
m$ botched it again big time, even vi$hta sp2+ isn't able to "upgrade" vi$hta... don't even think on older releases.
Poor yummy boy, after his gargantuan m$ a$$ licking for almost a year, now, for every slip of the tongue, all wintarded m$ fankiddies are in hate mode. Seems billy boy's a$$ is a lot more tasty to them.
[citation][nom]ossie[/nom]But $even hasn't any problems of previous windblow$ versions... it can't happen to micro$uxx, just the rotten fruit has upgrade problems with deleting guest luser account files. At least the guest account is supposedly only for temporary use.m$ botched it again big time, even vi$hta sp2+ isn't able to "upgrade" vi$hta... don't even think on older releases.Poor yummy boy, after his gargantuan m$ a$$ licking for almost a year, now, for every slip of the tongue, all wintarded m$ fankiddies are in hate mode. Seems billy boy's a$$ is a lot more tasty to them.[/citation]
look at these words! why are you so angry?! im sure you have some mental issues. do yourself a favor and see a doctor, please!
look at these words! why are you so angry?! im sure you have some mental issues. do yourself a favor and see a doctor, please!
Upgrade disc is much cheaper than a complete clean install disc and thats why more people buying it. Upgrading from 1 OS to another OS will result to corruption or it will slow down your computer, especially if your previous OS has a lot of files or maybe corrupted files. A Clean fresh installation is the best solution on any software issues.
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Sir, I'm not in the blame game - all I want is a solution to my problem. I tried to upgrade from Vista, which was a disaster even though I ran the ms. compatibility program. I have since tried clean installs without any success. What keeps happening is when I get to the 'completing installation' stage I get the sickening message to the effect that some of the files are missing or corrupt. What on earth is going on? In all my years of installing this is a new event for me. Can anyone out there in cyber space give us a clue as to how to solve this problem. Thanks. Tomg27
Blah Blah, Anti M$ people are looking for anything to say negative about Windows 7
simple people Clean install clean install some "Experts" are saying upgrade upgrade, how do you save time with this garbage?
Common sense people.
simple people Clean install clean install some "Experts" are saying upgrade upgrade, how do you save time with this garbage?
Common sense people.
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