Windows 8 Tablet in June 2012, Says Nokia Executive

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this means the iPad will be dead in the water by 2013...and likely the iPhone will begin a gradual decline about the same time.

I give it 5 years and apple will be moribund.
 

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How many years after Jobs left Apple for the first time did it take them to slide to the edge of obscurity?
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I give it the same amount of time again, except the only way Jobs is coming back this time is with a flashlight and a shovel
 

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THIS is going to be the iPad killer.
I've owned an iPhone 3GS and a WP7 phone, the latter of which is a very accurate preview of what a W8 tablet will be, and the WP7 wins hands down. This Metro UI is amazing.
I don't think it will actually kill the iPad for real, but it will take a massive amount of tablet business away from them on a scale that Android will never come close to.
 

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I'm definitely going to get a Transformer Prime as soon as they are released, but I have a strong feeling that in "June 2012" it will be listed on Craiglist and a Nokia W8 tablet will take its place.
We'll see.
 

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The way I see it, anyone with a W7 tablet will be able to install W8 either in Beta right now or retail later, as long as you like the hardware then what is stopping you? As long as the system is no less powerful than a bottom end netbook then get to it. This is one example of early adopters not being penalised and, even better, if you are a Linux fan you should be able to dual-boot.
 

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^The only problem is that the W7 tablets that are out now are expensive mini-PCs.

Comparatively, the upcoming W8 tablets are likely going to be SoC style hardware (similar to current Android tabs and iPads), hopefully in the $400-500 price range.

ApplesPears to oranges really. Otherwise I would get W7 tab and install the W8 beta ASAP.

 

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I don't know about iPad killer. The thing that Apple did well was set up the infrastructure via iTunes for consumers to shop and purchase apps for the iPad. Apps are what make the tablet fun to use and create value for it. IMO Microsoft needs to create a central distribution point for information and purchasing of software for their Win tablets to really gain a foothold. Media streaming and viewing is great but I think people want more than that in a device.
 

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[citation][nom]stormblade42[/nom]I don't know about iPad killer. The thing that Apple did well was set up the infrastructure via iTunes for consumers to shop and purchase apps for the iPad. Apps are what make the tablet fun to use and create value for it. IMO Microsoft needs to create a central distribution point for information and purchasing of software for their Win tablets to really gain a foothold. Media streaming and viewing is great but I think people want more than that in a device.[/citation]Something like this?
Growing larger by the minute too.
 

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The Win8 Tablets should do VERY well in the market... key word is "SHOULD". Because as we see, WP7 has done horrible in the phone market, even though its an excellent phone interface (I use a WP7 interface on my Android).

The fact that ALL Win8 apps will run on ALL WM8 devices (tablets / phones) is what will make MS powerful in the market. Its a matter of MS not fracking up the Win8 desktop user experience.

But no, Win/WM8 is not going to destroy apple. It's going to finish off Blackberry and take a chunk of market share from Android while making a small dent in iOS. Remember, Apple is working on a similar plan to merge iOS with their desktop OS.

 

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iPhone market went from nearly 100% to about 18% WHILE JOBBS WAS STILL ALIVE, ok? (it's less than what Samsung sells)
iPad went from 100% last year to about 30% this year. This number was expected to gradually decrease BY ALL ANALISTS and again WHILE JOBBS WAS STILL AIVE, ok?

PS
Regarding TFA, I'm disgusted by the fact that former Microsoft executive could become CEO of a major brand and turn the company into Microsoft's exclusive hardware boy.
 

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this means the iPad will be dead in the water by 2013...and likely the iPhone will begin a gradual decline about the same time.

I give it 5 years and apple will be moribund.

Do you think that Steve love Apple so much that it will it to the grave with him?
 
[citation][nom]digiex[/nom]Do you think that Steve love Apple so much that it will it to the grave with him?[/citation]

If Apple becomes a degenerate company it had become in the late 90's without Jobs, I think it would be much better if it was indeed taken to the grave.
 

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[citation][nom]kartu[/nom]iPhone market went from nearly 100% to about 18% WHILE JOBBS WAS STILL ALIVE, ok? (it's less than what Samsung sells)iPad went from 100% last year to about 30% this year.[/citation]
Er... no and no.
A - Apple NEVER had 100% of the phone market or 100% of the smart phone market.
B - As of today, Android has 52.3% of the market. (Gartner) iOS is at 15%.
C - Apple iOS market share has dropped 1.6%, yet SOLD MORE units. Symbian, a dying platform is still a tad more than Apple, has been cut in half. MS has gone DOWN to 1.5% market share.

My numbers above are for Android (phones & tablets) and iOS (iPhone & iPads).

D - As OF the past 45 days, tablet market share =
73% = iOS
17% = Android (most of the devices are crap)
05% = RIM / QNX
WebOS = 3% (hello - firesale)
02% = MS, MeeGo, Other.

Projections for 2015 =
46% = iOS
36% = Android
08% = RIM / QNX
11% = Microsoft

But *I* don't agree with those 2015 projections. They are based on MS's brute force sales. Not product innovation.

*MY Projection for 2015 - rough*
50% = iOS
30% = Microsoft (Windows Mobile 8)
17% = Android (half of this is Amazon's tablets)
02% = RIM

Why? Apple's eco system is solid and continues to grow. MS's Metro interface will do things that iOS as of today can't.... run desktop software. Android is being sued to death... if you are a hardware company - paying MS royalty fees may cost more than simply going with WM8-Metro. Other than Amazon and B&N - no other Android platform has a viable eco platform to work with...
... and as of today, neither does Microsoft. Google Music service may change that. But unlike Apple and MS/Nokia (MS should go ahead and buy them out - but what they are doing now is better than dealing with the FTC), those two have the hardwaresoftware together. Apple has content.
Android makers does NOT have that. Its strictly hardware. Google handles the .

When Samsung sells that tablet or phone... that is pretty much it. Google makes the money from apps and music. Apple makes money from the hardware and almost ALL content.

[citation]I'm disgusted by the fact that former Microsoft executive could become CEO of a major brand and turn the company into Microsoft's exclusive hardware boy.[/citation]
Nods... but we don't know if that was planned or it simply worked out that way. If Symbian was a strong mOS that wasn't the mess it is today, Nokia wouldn't need Android or MS... Trust me, MS needs Nokia badly at this time. Nokia could have gone Android. So either Nokia becomes THE only MS Mobile company or Samsung, HTC, etc all join the WM8 platform with open arms. Those factors will effect the future.

Samsung, HTC, Motorola all depend on Android at this point. The market doesn't need another mobileOS.

 

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"Windows 8 Tablet in June 2012, Says Nokia Executive"

It's August 2012 and still NO Nokia tablet in sight. Well done mr. Paul Amsellem, you seem VERY capable in doing your job. Now could you explain wtf you actually did during these last 14 months? Did you actually lift your arse from you desk? Are is bureaucracy and speculation your job as a "Nokia Executive"?
Perhaps they can Execute you now for being incompetent?
 

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I also change my predictions... these are for TABLETS, not phones.

After using Windows 8 and how MS is going about it... I think Win8 will just always be sub-par. While back in late 2011, I assumed a WP7 like UI would be used for the tablet (yes) - the reality of how they screwed us with the desktop should hurt tablet and phone sales. Also since that time - April of 2012, the market share for WP7 phones (world wide) is at 2% or less, and that is with selling the Nokia Lumia 900 for $50! Yet people are not thinking twice about buying a $100~200 HTC, Motorola or Samsung.

As of today, a Nokia branded tablet seems to be under the radar. With the Lumia phones tanking, I'm guessing that Nokia has put the tablet idea on the back burner.

*MY Projection for 2015 tablets - rough* - (AUG 2012 update)
50% = iOS
45% = Android (1/3 of these are Amazon's tablets)
05% = Microsoft (Windows Mobile 8)
00% = RIM (Because they are dead)

* The Amazon tablet is odd, its a threat to Android, but it depends on Android.
 
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