Windows hangs after switching to SATA

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A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB PATA. Now
Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and load. The
problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to fade in.
It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on. I
have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other suggestions?
SYS specs:
Chaintech 7NJL6
Athlon XP 3000+
512MB

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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote

> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB PATA.
> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and load. The
> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to fade in.
> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on. I
> have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other suggestions?

How did you copy the drive to the new one ?

Thats most likely the problem, you need to ensure
that XP cant see both the new copy and the original
on the first boot after the copy has been done.

Do the copy again and do that bit correctly.

> SYS specs:
> Chaintech 7NJL6
> Athlon XP 3000+
> 512MB
 

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"" wrote:
> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>
> > A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB
> PATA.
> > Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and
> load. The
> > problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to
> fade in.
> > It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue
> on. I
> > have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other
> suggestions?
>
> How did you copy the drive to the new one ?
>
> Thats most likely the problem, you need to ensure
> that XP cant see both the new copy and the original
> on the first boot after the copy has been done.
>
> Do the copy again and do that bit correctly.
>
> > SYS specs:
> > Chaintech 7NJL6
> > Athlon XP 3000+
> > 512MB

I don’t have the original drive anymore. Is there a way I can check
that out manually?

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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote

>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB PATA.
>>> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and load. The
>>> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to fade in.
>>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on. I
>>> have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other suggestions?

>> How did you copy the drive to the new one ?

>> Thats most likely the problem, you need to ensure
>> that XP cant see both the new copy and the original
>> on the first boot after the copy has been done.

>> Do the copy again and do that bit correctly.

>>> SYS specs:
>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
>>> Athlon XP 3000+
>>> 512MB

> I don’t have the original drive anymore.
> Is there a way I can check that out manually?

Yes, it is possible to fix it now.

The simplest approach is to boot the XP install CD and proceed
as if you are going to do a clean install of XP on the new drive.
It will eventually say that it can see XP on the drive and will offer
to repair that installation. That repair will make it bootable.

If you dont even have the XP install CD, its still
possible to fix it, but is a bit more fiddly to fix.
 

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"" wrote:
> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
> >> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>
> >>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from
> 40GB PATA.
> >>> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and
> load. The
> >>> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts
> to fade in.
> >>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then
> continue on. I
> >>> have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other
> suggestions?
>
> >> How did you copy the drive to the new one ?
>
> >> Thats most likely the problem, you need to ensure
> >> that XP cant see both the new copy and the original
> >> on the first boot after the copy has been done.
>
> >> Do the copy again and do that bit correctly.
>
> >>> SYS specs:
> >>> Chaintech 7NJL6
> >>> Athlon XP 3000+
> >>> 512MB
>
> > I don’t have the original drive anymore.
> > Is there a way I can check that out manually?
>
> Yes, it is possible to fix it now.
>
> The simplest approach is to boot the XP install CD and proceed
> as if you are going to do a clean install of XP on the new
> drive.
> It will eventually say that it can see XP on the drive and
> will offer
> to repair that installation. That repair will make it
> bootable.
>
> If you dont even have the XP install CD, its still
> possible to fix it, but is a bit more fiddly to fix.

Originally i used symantic ghost to disk-to-disk the old to new. I
also have tried running the repair(the second one) as well as fixmbr
on the first available repair. What is your other suggestiong? Thanks

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> The
> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to fade in.
> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on.

So it hangs (no further activity) or just hesitates for ten seconds, but
then it continues normally?
 
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Hi,
I think u have to make a change in the Bios. There is an option " Run
in combined mode"
what's mean " ata, sata". Anyway maybe you'll need an update for ur
bios.
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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from
>> 40GB PATA.
>>>>> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and load.
>>>>> The problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts
>> to fade in.
>>>>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then
>> continue on. I
>>>>> have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other suggestions?
>>
>>>> How did you copy the drive to the new one ?
>>
>>>> Thats most likely the problem, you need to ensure
>>>> that XP cant see both the new copy and the original
>>>> on the first boot after the copy has been done.
>>
>>>> Do the copy again and do that bit correctly.
>>
>>>>> SYS specs:
>>>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
>>>>> Athlon XP 3000+
>>>>> 512MB
>>
>>> I don’t have the original drive anymore.
>>> Is there a way I can check that out manually?
>>
>> Yes, it is possible to fix it now.
>>
>> The simplest approach is to boot the XP install CD and proceed
>> as if you are going to do a clean install of XP on the new
>> drive.
>> It will eventually say that it can see XP on the drive and
>> will offer
>> to repair that installation. That repair will make it
>> bootable.
>>
>> If you dont even have the XP install CD, its still
>> possible to fix it, but is a bit more fiddly to fix.

> Originally i used symantic ghost to disk-to-disk the old to new.

Yeah, that figures, you usally get that result with ghost.

> I also have tried running the repair(the second one)

What happened with that ?

> as well as fixmbr on the first available repair.
> What is your other suggestion ?

Try
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305595&sd=tech
and see if you can get it to boot that way. If you can, move the boot.ini to
the hard drive, replacing the existing one. Its hidden on the hard drive, so
you will have to untick the hide hidden and system files in the Tools in
Explorer.

Try multi(1) if that doesnt work.
 
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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:

> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB PATA.
> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and load. The
> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to fade in.
> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on.

Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely separate problem.

When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.

> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other suggestions?
> SYS specs:
> Chaintech 7NJL6
> Athlon XP 3000+
> 512MB
 

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"" wrote:
> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
>
> > A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB
> PATA.
> > Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and
> load. The
> > problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to
> fade in.
> > It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue
> on.
>
> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely separate
> problem.
>
> When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.
>
> > I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other
> suggestions?
> > SYS specs:
> > Chaintech 7NJL6
> > Athlon XP 3000+
> > 512MB

I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on my mobo. Unless
you are talking about something else.

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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>
>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB PATA.
>>> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and
>> load. The
>>> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts to fade in.
>>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on.
>>
>> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely separate
>> problem.
>>
>> When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
>> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.
>>
>>> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other suggestions?
>>> SYS specs:
>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
>>> Athlon XP 3000+
>>> 512MB

> I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on my mobo.

Yes, but when doing a repair, you need to ensure that the install has them too.

> Unless you are talking about something else.

Nope.
 

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"" wrote:
> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
> >> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> >>
> >>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from
> 40GB PATA.
> >>> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and
> >> load. The
> >>> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen starts
> to fade in.
> >>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then
> continue on.
> >>
> >> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely separate
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
> >> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.
> >>
> >>> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other
> suggestions?
> >>> SYS specs:
> >>> Chaintech 7NJL6
> >>> Athlon XP 3000+
> >>> 512MB
>
> > I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on my
> mobo.
>
> Yes, but when doing a repair, you need to ensure that the
> install has them too.
>
> > Unless you are talking about something else.
>
> Nope.

Wouldn’t it give you an error if it needed a driver? Is there a way to
fix this from windows? I have ran the repair twice already.

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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote

>>>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB PATA.
>>>>> Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead and load. The
>>>>> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen startsto fade in.
>>>>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on.

>>>> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely separate problem.

>>>> When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
>>>> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.

>>>>> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other suggestions?
>>>>> SYS specs:
>>>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
>>>>> Athlon XP 3000+
>>>>> 512MB

>>> I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on my mobo.

>> Yes, but when doing a repair, you need
>> to ensure that the install has them too.

>>> Unless you are talking about something else.

>> Nope.

> Wouldn’t it give you an error if it needed a driver?

Nope, what XP has might well work fine apart
from that pause you dont like when it boots.

> Is there a way to fix this from windows?

Yes, its possible to update the sata driver from within XP.

> I have ran the repair twice already.
 
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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
> "" wrote:
>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>>>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB
>>>>>>> PATA. Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead
>> and load. The
>>>>>>> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen
>> startsto fade in.
>>>>>>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then continue on.
>>
>>>>>> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely separate
>>>>>> problem.
>>
>>>>>> When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
>>>>>> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.
>>
>>>>>>> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other
>>>>>>> suggestions? SYS specs:
>>>>>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
>>>>>>> Athlon XP 3000+
>>>>>>> 512MB
>>
>>>>> I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on my mobo.
>>
>>>> Yes, but when doing a repair, you need
>>>> to ensure that the install has them too.
>>
>>>>> Unless you are talking about something else.
>>
>>>> Nope.
>>
>>> Wouldn’t it give you an error if it needed a driver?
>>
>> Nope, what XP has might well work fine apart
>> from that pause you dont like when it boots.
>>
>>> Is there a way to fix this from windows?
>>
>> Yes, its possible to update the sata driver from within XP.
>>
>>> I have ran the repair twice already.

> There are not any new drivers for the hdd

I didnt mean new ones, just the driver supplied with the
motherboard which may behave differently to what XP
uses if you dont supply what came with the motherboard.

> and I don’t have that combined mode in my bios.

Yeah, its not very common. You did check if
there is an updated bios for the motherboard ?

> How might i edit the windows boot loader?

It isnt feasible on that pause you dont like.

> Could that be it?

Looks more likely to be the driver to me.

> I know it must be something when windows is first trying to load.

Yes, but its likely just the driver farting around initially.

You could try logging the boot and see if there is any useful
info in the log on what its doing when you see that pause.
 

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> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
> > "" wrote:
> >> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
> >>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> >>>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
> >>>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> >>
> >>>>>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from
> 40GB
> >>>>>>> PATA. Now Windows will start to load hang and then go
> ahead
> >> and load. The
> >>>>>>> problem occurse when the "loading windows" screen
> >> startsto fade in.
> >>>>>>> It will fade in 50% hang for about ten seconds then
> continue on.
> >>
> >>>>>> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely
> separate
> >>>>>> problem.
> >>
> >>>>>> When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
> >>>>>> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.
> >>
> >>>>>>> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other
> >>>>>>> suggestions? SYS specs:
> >>>>>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
> >>>>>>> Athlon XP 3000+
> >>>>>>> 512MB
> >>
> >>>>> I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on my
> mobo.
> >>
> >>>> Yes, but when doing a repair, you need
> >>>> to ensure that the install has them too.
> >>
> >>>>> Unless you are talking about something else.
> >>
> >>>> Nope.
> >>
> >>> Wouldn’t it give you an error if it needed a driver?
> >>
> >> Nope, what XP has might well work fine apart
> >> from that pause you dont like when it boots.
> >>
> >>> Is there a way to fix this from windows?
> >>
> >> Yes, its possible to update the sata driver from within XP.
> >>
> >>> I have ran the repair twice already.
>
> > There are not any new drivers for the hdd
>
> I didnt mean new ones, just the driver supplied with the
> motherboard which may behave differently to what XP
> uses if you dont supply what came with the motherboard.
>
> > and I don’t have that combined mode in my bios.
>
> Yeah, its not very common. You did check if
> there is an updated bios for the motherboard ?
>
> > How might i edit the windows boot loader?
>
> It isnt feasible on that pause you dont like.
>
> > Could that be it?
>
> Looks more likely to be the driver to me.
>
> > I know it must be something when windows is first trying to
> load.
>
> Yes, but its likely just the driver farting around initially.
>
> You could try logging the boot and see if there is any useful
> info in the log on what its doing when you see that pause.

How do you do a bootlog? I’ll try the driver for the mobo.
Thanks

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C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
> "" wrote:
>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
>>> "" wrote:
>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>>>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>>>>>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade from 40GB
>>>>>>>>> PATA. Now Windows will start to load hang and then go ahead
>>>>>>>>> and load. The problem occurse when the "loading windows"
>>>>>>>>> screen startsto fade in. It will fade in 50% hang for about
>>>>>>>>> ten seconds then continue on.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely separate
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you did the repair, did you use the initial option
>>>>>>>> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any other
>>>>>>>>> suggestions? SYS specs:
>>>>>>>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
>>>>>>>>> Athlon XP 3000+
>>>>>>>>> 512MB
>>>>
>>>>>>> I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on my mobo.
>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but when doing a repair, you need
>>>>>> to ensure that the install has them too.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless you are talking about something else.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn’t it give you an error if it needed a driver?
>>>>
>>>> Nope, what XP has might well work fine apart
>>>> from that pause you dont like when it boots.
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to fix this from windows?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, its possible to update the sata driver from within XP.
>>>>
>>>>> I have ran the repair twice already.
>>
>>> There are not any new drivers for the hdd
>>
>> I didnt mean new ones, just the driver supplied with the
>> motherboard which may behave differently to what XP
>> uses if you dont supply what came with the motherboard.
>>
>>> and I don’t have that combined mode in my bios.
>>
>> Yeah, its not very common. You did check if
>> there is an updated bios for the motherboard ?
>>
>>> How might i edit the windows boot loader?
>>
>> It isnt feasible on that pause you dont like.
>>
>>> Could that be it?
>>
>> Looks more likely to be the driver to me.
>>
>>> I know it must be something when windows is first trying to load.
>>
>> Yes, but its likely just the driver farting around initially.
>>
>> You could try logging the boot and see if there is any useful
>> info in the log on what its doing when you see that pause.

> How do you do a bootlog?

Same way you do a safe mode boot, its one of the entrys in that menu.

> I’ll try the driver for the mobo.
 

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> >>> "" wrote:
> >>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> >>>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
> >>>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> >>>>>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
> >>>>>>>> C <UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A while back I bought a 80GB SATA HDD, an upgrade
> from 40GB
> >>>>>>>>> PATA. Now Windows will start to load hang and then
> go ahead
> >>>>>>>>> and load. The problem occurse when the "loading
> windows"
> >>>>>>>>> screen startsto fade in. It will fade in 50% hang
> for about
> >>>>>>>>> ten seconds then continue on.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> Whoops, read that too quickly. Thats an entirely
> separate
> >>>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> When you did the repair, did you use the initial
> option
> >>>>>>>> to load the drivers off floppy for the SATA channel.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have ran fixmbr and checked the boot.ini. Any
> other
> >>>>>>>>> suggestions? SYS specs:
> >>>>>>>>> Chaintech 7NJL6
> >>>>>>>>> Athlon XP 3000+
> >>>>>>>>> 512MB
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> I already had the drivers in windows for the SATA on
> my mobo.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, but when doing a repair, you need
> >>>>>> to ensure that the install has them too.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Unless you are talking about something else.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Wouldn’t it give you an error if it needed a driver?
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope, what XP has might well work fine apart
> >>>> from that pause you dont like when it boots.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Is there a way to fix this from windows?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, its possible to update the sata driver from within
> XP.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have ran the repair twice already.
> >>
> >>> There are not any new drivers for the hdd
> >>
> >> I didnt mean new ones, just the driver supplied with the
> >> motherboard which may behave differently to what XP
> >> uses if you dont supply what came with the motherboard.
> >>
> >>> and I don’t have that combined mode in my bios.
> >>
> >> Yeah, its not very common. You did check if
> >> there is an updated bios for the motherboard ?
> >>
> >>> How might i edit the windows boot loader?
> >>
> >> It isnt feasible on that pause you dont like.
> >>
> >>> Could that be it?
> >>
> >> Looks more likely to be the driver to me.
> >>
> >>> I know it must be something when windows is first trying
> to load.
> >>
> >> Yes, but its likely just the driver farting around
> initially.
> >>
> >> You could try logging the boot and see if there is any
> useful
> >> info in the log on what its doing when you see that pause.
>
> > How do you do a bootlog?
>
> Same way you do a safe mode boot, its one of the entrys in
> that menu.
>
> > I’ll try the driver for the mobo.

I put the latest drivers on to no avail.

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