Windows Start Button Gone Forever, Replaced By Tutorial

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The best thing MS could do is provide a real tutorial, in my opinion.

Most of the negative feedback comes from people who never tried it, or people who tried it without knowing anything about how to use it and getting frustrated.

It's still too in-my-face to suit me, but the fact is, most of the time I don't even have to see Metro at all. I have the regular background up right now as I'm typing this, a beautiful screen I downloaded from Digital Blasphemy - no one could look at my screen and tell whether I was using Win 7 or Win 8 except for the label in the lower right corner that tells us it's the Windows 8 Consumer Preview. I have icons on it I can double-click to start apps, just like every earlier version of Windows. I have my taskbar set to be hidden until I bring it up by moving my mouse all the way to the bottom of the screen, as I do in my other versions of Windows, and you can see there's no Start button on the lower left when I do, but everything else is the same.

If I move my mouse to where the Start button was, a little preview pane of Metro shows up. Click on it, I get Metro, and can select any app there to start using it with one click - but in most cases I don't have to use it at all, if I don't want to. The Start button isn't gone, it's just changed to Metro and been made much more mobile-platform friendly. I can start my programs form icons on my regular desktop, and I can right-click the corner the Start button would be to get to many OS functions without switching to Metro - more than were listed on the Start menu in Win 7.

While I do wish they'd make Metro like the old Start-button menu that popped up in that it wasn't something that covered my whole screen but just a small part of it, it's not any less "intuitive", it's just different. I remember back when I started using Windows the first time, and I'll tell you, it didn't seem all that intuitive to me, and Metro is no worse than that. (No OS I've used has felt "intuitive" to me from the start.)

So far, the only real problem I have with Win 8 is that I can't find anything like "Advanced appearance settings" in it. (I'd say most people don't even know what I'm talking about.) I want that, and it will be a major irritation for me not to have it, if Win 8 is released without the abilities to customize Windows that it offers. Every previous version of Windows has had that capability, and I see no reason to leave it out - an upgrade of an OS (or anything) shouldn't ever be a downgrade in any way. The power user should ever be penalized to make things easier for those who use it in the simplest terms.

My judgment form actually having used it is that the improvements outweigh the negatives in the interface, and those negatives are generally greatly overblown. A tutorial would help people tremendously when it comes to adjusting to the changes.

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Windows 7 is a success because MS listened to what users don't like about Vista. From the small sample size of the readers commenting here, i'd say the "red" team is winning.
 
Guess this is as good of a reason as any for the every other flop OS M$ makes. From looking at the picture it looks to add steps/clicks/hassle to find my programs. Ill pass as the GUI is no reason to upgrade.
 
Holy crap! The first 2 pages of comments are mostly thumbed down and hidden, some serious Windows 8 fanboys/trolls at work on this one!

And on topic, I don't see myself running out to upgrade to Windows 8 ever......and not just because of this. 7 does everything I need it to do, therefore I have no reason to, unless DX12 is a Windows 8 exclusive like DX10 and Vista.
 
Just imagine the ads Apple is going to run when this train-wreck launches.
 


I dont see what the big deal is. If you press a Start button or something else it really does not matter. It is just like a different way of looking at the same thing. Still has to be a way to select one of your programs. Most of the time I just click on an icon anyway. The start menu is just a list of options with shortcuts. This is just nonsense. There will probably be an option to make it look like winxp.
 
[citation][nom]remyj123[/nom]I really think MS is shooting themselves in the foot on this. Whereas I understand them wanting to make the interface identical across all formats of computing, pretty much everyone agrees the Metro interface is not as useful on a desktop or laptop PC as it is on a phone or a tablet. Businesses are not going to like Windows 8 on their PC workstations. If they ask me, and they haven't, I would compromise by making the desktop version of Windows 8 essentially an update of Windows 7 and then toss the Metro tiles on the desktop. If people want to use them, they can, if they want to go to the start menu or task bar and launch from there as they have in the past, they still could. Why does this have to be an all or nothing proposition?[/citation]

I don't think it will matter in the business environment as the users in the business world only use a select few programs and do not mess with the installation of those programs. They should rarely use the start button now.

I'm sure people will get used to the new interface, and I'm sure everyone will hate it at first. Everyone hates change, but in time, we'll adapt and eventually claim it to be superior, or a few tweaks will happen and we'll claim it superior. I'm sure for the first year, it'll be bashed, however.
 
I just hope they don't start to take the Start button out of keyboards. Then we would really have a mess on our hands. Windows 7 will be my last Windows OS. Period. And this is coming from the guy who sort of liked Vista. I hope the media/TV/newspaper gods throw down fire from above on Microsoft's newest stupid idea.
 
[citation][nom]11796pcs[/nom]I just hope they don't start to take the Start button out of keyboards. Then we would really have a mess on our hands. Windows 7 will be my last Windows OS. Period. And this is coming from the guy who sort of liked Vista. I hope the media/TV/newspaper gods throw down fire from above on Microsoft's newest stupid idea.[/citation]

Me too like I said if they keep this design in upcoming Windows (8,9,10) then I'm going to switch to a different OS. Also when I build computers for people I'm installing Windows 7 until it can longer be found and is no longer supported by Microsoft.
 
Well I for one will most likely skip this version of Windows. Im very happy with 7 and consider it the best of all the Windows O/S to date. Ohh Im sure I will play around with 8 here and there but won't be buying OEM and retail copy's like I have of 7.
 
Looks like Microsoft has a secret team on here specifically down-voting negative comments on Windows 8. Pretty lulzy if you ask me.
 
[citation][nom]naveenk[/nom] but WIN7 Start was awesome... just press the Start button on ur keyboard and type it partially and press enter... just a matter of 2 seconds[/citation]
You can still do that. Only real problem I have with the interface is the hidden power button and hot-corners not working so great in multi-monitor setup, which isn't a problem for the average consumer.
 
I love Windows because I get stuff done, NONE of which is going to be getting done any faster with Windows 8. Microsoft has killed the essence of Windows by taking it back to the DOS era of one application at a time with a painstaking program launch interface. What made Windows great was the ability to multitask, running multiple applications in freaking windows ! It now takes a dozen mouse clicks to get from one app to launch another where it used to take 2-3, that's NOT progress !
 
I hope this is not an April 1st gag, but is real. If so, my faith in Windows 8 just went from skeptical to open-minded, because it shows that Microsoft are really thinking outside the box. Ironically, "clunky and unintuitive" is exactly what the current Start menu is, with its 101 diverse items things crammed into one smallish rectangle whether they fit naturally or not. If Microsoft have acknowledged that and figured out a way to better it, then that's great news.

Complaining about the need for a short, one-time tutorial is one of the dumbest complaints one could make about this sort of thing. If the system is genuinely more streamlined, then the time you'll save using it will outweigh the time you spend on the tutorial 1000 to 1. Imagined if the mouse was never introduced because they were too worried that keyboard users wouldn't want to spend a few hours getting accustomed to the feeling of it in their hand.
 
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