Working on a new budget build

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So I've been eyeballing GPU's lately for an upgrade and the more I look the more inclined I am to just start slowly buying parts for a whole new budget machine.

Afterwards just adding ram to my older one for a photo shop machine for the wife's photography business.

I'm in Canada, s o parts are pricey atm due to the dollar and much harder to source from Canadian retailers it seems.
I have a best buy that is local. Outside of that it'll have to be ordered and shipped.

Decided already it'll be a budget build again, and I'm set on an athlon x4 cpu. Most likely an 860k. Or an 880 but I'm not sure if it's worth the price jump tbh.

This will be my first rig I'm buying specifically on a budget to overclock the cpu.
My last two had unlocked cpu's but I never did get around to it and the mobo's werent really built for it.

It'll be a slow process of deal shopping and ordering parts one at a time as I can. It's no big rush and right now I'm looking for your educated opinions on my best price/ performance options that suit what I'm trying to do.

TLDR
Slowly building a newer more current budget gaming cpu with an 860k at its core.
Iso your help and advice.

First questions.

Nvm the 880k right? I can get the 860k for 25$ less or better and overclock it to 4.x ghz right?

If possible, since I'm overclocking. Should I just grab and OEM/tray if I can that's cheaper then a retail boxed?

If so I'll be opting for the CM hyper 212 Evo cooler. It's regularly available at <40$ and it's never let me down.

Mobo.
As i'll be buying this specifically to overclock, can you recommend to me a good fm2+ mobo for overclocking.
Also what am I looking for from a mobo if I'd like to use it to overclock?

For the mobo. I'm looking to just get a stable overclock around the 4.0 mark. Nothing crazy.
I'm open to color themed mobo's that can do this overclock as long as the price tag isn't silly.
Price will always win if it's like 30 or more $ just to get a color on it.
 
Solution
I think you are wrong to base a budget build on any amd processor at this time.
Intel is much stronger and has a better upgrade path.
Here is a post I made some time ago on a "budget" build.

------------------------------ budget skylake build ---------------------------
For a budget gaming build, I like to recommend that one builds for future expandability.
That means paying a bit more up front for some parts that allow for an easier future upgrade.
A good rule of thumb is to budget twice as much for the graphics card than for the cpu.

Let me start where you might not expect:

1. Buy a good 500w psu or better. 500w will run a card as good as a GTX970. 600w will run a GTX980ti.
Future graphics cards will be built on smaller...
I think you are wrong to base a budget build on any amd processor at this time.
Intel is much stronger and has a better upgrade path.
Here is a post I made some time ago on a "budget" build.

------------------------------ budget skylake build ---------------------------
For a budget gaming build, I like to recommend that one builds for future expandability.
That means paying a bit more up front for some parts that allow for an easier future upgrade.
A good rule of thumb is to budget twice as much for the graphics card than for the cpu.

Let me start where you might not expect:

1. Buy a good 500w psu or better. 500w will run a card as good as a GTX970. 600w will run a GTX980ti.
Future graphics cards will be built on smaller 14nm so they should not need more power than today.
I would normally suggest Seasonic 620w: Expect to pay around $65.
Look for a tier 1 or 2 quality unit on a list such as this:
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true

2. Buy a Z170 based motherboard. Z170 will allow you to install a overclockable cpu and even permit a future Kaby lake processor upgrade.
You should find one for under $100. Lesser lga1151 chipsets will work for the truly budget constrained but at the expense of future upgrade optiions.
Here is a M-ATX example: ASRock Z170M Pro4S for $99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157637

3. I suggest a I3-6100 @3.7. About $130. If you are truly budget limited, you can buy a g4400 dual core for $60.
In time, you can upgrade to any I3/I5/I7 cpu that you want and market theoriginal processor.

4. The intel stock cooler will do the job. Skylake runs cool.
If you want, you can use a cryorig H7 cooler with a 120mm fan. $35. It will be quieter.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565
One can always add a cpu cooler later.

5. For ram, speed is not important. Buy a 8gb kit of 2 x 4gb DDR4 1.2v 2133 speed ram.
About $40 for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148858
Heat spreaders are marketing and generally useless.
Faster ram is not worth it for skylake:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1478-page1.html

6. Cases are a personal thing. Buy one you love. Most will do the job for <$50.
Here is a silverstone PS08 for $35; It fits a smallar M-ATX motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163223

7. The graphics card is the most important component for gaming.
I like the GTX750ti and EVGA as a brand.
Here is a superclock version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You could go stronger in the video card if your budget permits and your games need it.
On the other hand, you could build using the integrated 530 graphics which is quite good and see how you do.
By deferring on the graphics card, you will get a better idea of what you really need.
Integrated is fine for sims, but not fast action games.
8. Lastly, I will never build again without a SSD for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do so much quicker. 120gb will hold the OS and a handful of games.
With 240gb you may never need a hard drive at all. Defer on a hard drive until your ssd approaches 90% full.
Currently, I like samsung 850 EVO best.

-------------good luck------------





Take from it what you will.
Here are three links for you to look at; they are a bit old:

http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/
http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-9.html
 
Solution
Must be amd.
Not interested in Intel builds, also upgrading in the future will be a new build eventually on a zen platform most likely.
Upgrade paths aren't all that important to me as the 860k just like my old 965 be is plenty good enough for a strictly gaming rig, I'd imagine overclocked it'll only get better.

As of right now my main concern is a board that's budget minded whilst being able to overclock with good stability.

I'll go from there afterwards.
Gpu will most likely be an rx model 480
Psu will likely be Antec or seasonic 600 watt