[SOLVED] Worth going from i5 6600k to 8700k (Photoshop/Web Dev, Occasional gaming/premiere pro)

[saudor]

Hey all. Currently running i5 6600k and a RX 580. the i7 is ~$160 USD so it's basically 1/2 the usual price. Unfortunately, i would need a new board. Ryzen is no good since I run a hackintosh and those favor intel CPUs (hence the RX580 since Nvidia = no good)

I use this system for heavier photoshop (tons of layers, PSD sizes are about 300-700 mb) , illustrator, web development, some video editing and occasional gaming.
The games I play run ok for the most part but CPU runs a little high. In detroit become human, it's mostly stuck at 90%+ and can definitely see it bottle necking even with a rx580.

For graphics work, i think the i5 is enough but i don't know any better so maybe im missing out.

Thoughts? Or better to go for something newer


Other details: 4K Freesync display but i run all my games at 1080/1440 and tweak to reach around 45-60fps. 32GB DDR4@2400 RAM, 4GHz mild overclock @ stock voltages on the i5 on a Z170 XP Sli board

Thanks!

 

[Eximo]

i5-11400 would probably be better than an older i7. Not much more expensive. 10400F is also an option. at $154

8700k - 6 cores 12 threads, max boost 4.7Ghz
i5-10400F - 6 cores 12 threads, max boost 4.3Ghz (but 3 generational improvements in output)
i5-11400 - 6 cores 12 threads, max boost 4.4Ghz (but 4 generational improvements in output)
I5-11500 4.6Ghz max boost

 

[logainofhades]

I would agree going with an i5 11400/11400f. There is some IPC boost, for 11th gen vs 8th.

 

[geofelt]

What is your current motherboard?
How much ram do you have?

Photoshop can depend on lots of ram.

Your current motherboard should be able to support a processor as strong as a i7-7700K.
They go for something like $250 used on ebay.

I would not go that route.
For $210, you can buy a i5-11400 which is considerably stronger and any lga1200 motherboard will do, they start at about $70.

 

[logainofhades]

For $210, you can buy a i5-11400 which is considerably stronger and any lga1200 motherboard will do, they start at about $70.

Those $70 boards are junk, and can severely limit CPU performance.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3AEj3x39vQ&t=777s

 

[Karadjgne]

Ram helps. With the 11th gen cpus, you can take advantage of higher speed ram, same as with the K class cpus on a Z mobo.

Also 11th gen run 20pcie lanes, so m.2 in at least 1 slot is cpu direct, not run through the chipset, and pcie4.0 capable, which can work well with larger files used with Photoshop.

I don't see the move to an 8700k as being that much of an overall benefit over the 6600k, you'll spend $500+ to add 6 threads, with very little IPC gains.


11400 not only keeps up with a 9700k, but beats it. Results may vary depending on ram/OC.

And that's not mentioning the power and cooling requirements differences between a 11400 and 8700k which = noise.

 

[saudor]

What is your current motherboard?
How much ram do you have?

Photoshop can depend on lots of ram.

Your current motherboard should be able to support a processor as strong as a i7-7700K.
They go for something like $250 used on ebay.

I would not go that route.
For $210, you can buy a i5-11400 which is considerably stronger and any lga1200 motherboard will do, they start at about $70.

I am currently running 32 GB DDR4 @ 2400 on a Z170 XP SLI board. Bumped it up last year to 32 from 16 since CC2020 was chewing through it as i tend to have multiple files open to re-use assets.

I also do have a mild overclock on my i5 at 4 GHz at stock voltages.

And thanks for the advice everyone! Looks like a resounding no on the 8700 and better to go 11400 if anything (or just stick with the 6600k until hackintosh is no longer relevant and migrate to a ryzen build)

 

[Eximo]

I don't see the move to an 8700k as being that much of an overall benefit over the 6600k, you'll spend $500+ to add 6 threads, with very little IPC gains.

8 threads. 6600k is only a quad core.

 

[sonofjesse]

Since you got to get a new board I would look at the 10850k 10/20 CPU for 299 @ MC.

The older I7's run way tooo much most of the 200+......which is crazy for a CPU that is that old. I have no idea how their not under 100.

 

[Karadjgne]

Simple. They ran higher voltages/current and the manufacturing process was far less efficient in comparison.
Oh, BTW, the 10850k can pull almost 270w without issue. Age has little to do with that, it's a matter of additional cores, additional threads, Lcache, memory controller etc all adding up. The 10850k is not much more than a refined and tweaked 6600k, same architecture, just a lot more under the hood.

And doesn't do so well on a budget board simply because of VRM limitations.

As you can see, the 11600k basically beats out the 10900k, so thats going to put the 11400 and 10850k in the same general vacinity, the 11600k only having a slight edge over the 11400 because of clock speeds. For the money and requirements, the 11400 is far better value here than the 10850k. Compared to a 6600k, you'd be looking at closer to double the ability.