Worth it to upgrade my i7 4790?

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Hi there,
I hope this the right place to post the questions bellow.
A quick story/introduction for the reason I'm looking to build a new PC.

I have an issue the last 2 or 3 years where my PC just turns off and the RAM OK LED blinks in a steady rhythm for either seconds to up to an hour and then the PC turns on. Happens randomly from once a month to multiple times a day. It could be a bad MoBo, CPU, PSU (Not enough wattage?), RAM... who knows.
I've tried taking everything apart and cleaning them, also new thermal paste, and my temperatures are in the safe zone but it's unsolved.
So I'm looking to start from scratch and salve whatever I can if worthy, like the CPU.

My build:
Asus Z97-C Mainboard Sockel 1150
Intel Core i7-4790, 4x 3.60GHz, 6MB, Soc.1150 (Not Unlocked - Stock Cooler)
Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB GDDR5
be quiet! CM BQT E9-CM Straight Power PC 680Watt
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800)

My main question is: Is it worthy to upgrade my CPU to a newer generation?
When? 2019
How I use my PC? I equally play games and edit videos and photos in DaVinci Resolve and Adobe's softwares. I'm not a professional so I don't care for fastest render times. Just balance between playing and editing. Definitely not worse than what I already have.
What else I want to upgrade? My GPU to preferably a 2080ti.
Note: I want to stay mostly on a 1080p monitor.

Do you think my i7-4790 would cause issues with a 1080ti or 2080ti? Like bottlenecking while playing at 1080p. If yes, what are my options?

I don't want to dive into overclocking. This is why I chose the locked version of my CPU, to save money while having peace of mind about cooling and not doing the most optimal work.
Is it worth it buying for example an i7 9700k if I'm not going to OC it? Maybe the features (again, I'm not aware of them if any) and overall architecture are more positive than leaving it at the base speed?

But then again more cores doesn't mean better gaming. And lately I've seen only push of cores count... so is there anything coming in 2019 which would just be better overall and not only up the core count?

Of course I'm also gonna buy a closed water cooling system for the CPU when I decide what's the CPU gonna be.

Thank you very much for your time and help.
I hope the information is on point.
 
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No problems at all. I have the 8700K and can only sing it's praises...Overclocks to 5GHz and I have mine running a 24/7 overclock at 4.9GHz at only 1.278v..With regards to motherboards, just for longevity, I would get a Z390 and Gigabyte have a really good range with the Gigabyte Elite or Pro at a fairly cost effective price of $172.04 for the Elite and $180.77 for the Pro. More importantly they both have a 12+1 Phase VRM that is outstanding. Both boards can handle the 9900K overclocked and 8700K overclocked to the max!

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z390-AORUS-LGA1151-Motherboard/dp/B07HRWJ555/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1542314864&sr=8-6&keywords=gigabyte+z390...
The 4790 non K is still not a bad CPU but based on the issues you have been having, if you are looking at upgrading, yes, mobing to the next gen CPU's from Intel and AMD will make a difference.

You have 2 choices:

Intel - I would recommend for your uses, the 8700K rather than the 9700K...but this does depend on price. If the 8700K is cheaper, then go 8700K. The 8700K is a great CPU for gaming and for your workloads. It will give you maximum FPS coupled to a 1080ti or 2080ti and with a Z390 motherboard will still allow for an upgrade in the future to a 9900K...The 9700K, again is a full 8 cores without the hyperthreading but still very powerful and again will handle gaming, maybe even a tiny bit better than the 8700K but the 8700K on the editing side will shade it with it's additional threads so 6 cores and 12 threads versus 8 straight cores...Also you have overclocking if you ever want to go that route and trust me on the Intel side it is very simple now to get a free boost to 4.8 or 4.9GHz with little to no effort...

On the Ryzen side you have the 2700 and 2700X which again are fantastic CPU's and costs a lot less. It wont give you the very best FPS especially at 1080P where the 8700K and 9700K will beat it but on the productivity side it will shine with a full 8 cores and 16 threads..Also it is important to get good quality memory and at the highest speed you can as Ryzen will make use of it, so something like DDR4 3200 will be good.

So you have to simply balance cost against performance...both are very good options and will make a difference to your current setup that you will feel....I use a Corsair AIO the 360mm H150i Pro but any decent 240mm or 280mm AIO will do a great job in cooling the CPU's..

As to waiting, yes that might be worthwhile to see if prices drop but you can't really make a bad decision as the CPU's are all very good now..
 
Ok, I see that features are not really different other than hyper threading and cores/threads + clock speed.
I will probably go for the 8700k with the hyper threading and the ability for future upgrade. Although there are some mixed opinions with the 9900k as I saw since I made this thread.

Is it possible that the 1151 socket would continue after the 9900k?
I don't know if the answer is obvious, I guess by that time I would be looking for the 9900k price for an upgrade instead of the newest high priced tech.

I also saw this comparison between the two https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/4028vs3937
Not much difference if you don't really push the clock speed and put more effort and care in OC and cooling.

About the RAM I don't know. It seems that latency goes down in DDR4 and I'm not sure if it's worthy to even upgrade my 1600 CL9 RAM... Maybe add 2 more sticks and go to 4 slots at 32GB. And even that seems overkill if I'm not doing above 4k editing or very heavy 3D renderings.

You think there is any particular manufacturer of a Z390 motherboard I should prefer? Why?

Thank you for your answer!

Edit:
Sat and watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZcqw-K1drY with this guy that has tested a some z390 budget motherboards.
I don't how will this effect the 8700K with a bit lower overclocking like 4.5ghz give or take and probably less heat. Overall it doesn't seem to be a good choice for the 9900K up to 5ghz.

I'm not into multiple PCI express slots, RAID, WiFi, on board audio and what not features the premium have. But the expensive ones seem to have a better built. Should I go for a micro ATX?

Or if z370 has well built motherboards and cheaper since they are not as new and maybe forget the idea of a 9900K if it still remains not the best upgrade option.

So many options 😛 so much digging. I just don't want the same bug my current PC and motherboard has which has the lowest features/price of its series. Or have the issue of over heating cause of budget z390s.

I'd love your input.
 
No problems at all. I have the 8700K and can only sing it's praises...Overclocks to 5GHz and I have mine running a 24/7 overclock at 4.9GHz at only 1.278v..With regards to motherboards, just for longevity, I would get a Z390 and Gigabyte have a really good range with the Gigabyte Elite or Pro at a fairly cost effective price of $172.04 for the Elite and $180.77 for the Pro. More importantly they both have a 12+1 Phase VRM that is outstanding. Both boards can handle the 9900K overclocked and 8700K overclocked to the max!

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z390-AORUS-LGA1151-Motherboard/dp/B07HRWJ555/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1542314864&sr=8-6&keywords=gigabyte+z390

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z390-AORUS-PRO-Motherboard/dp/B07HRZRBRJ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1542314885&sr=8-4&keywords=gigabyte+z390

You should be able to find even better deals for black Friday...All I would say is go at least mid-range on the Z390 boards like the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon etc. On the socket 1155, I don't think we will be that lucky, especially as 14nm is at an end and the next round of Intel CPU's will be 10nm mid to end of 2019....

As to ram, sadly, you will have to upgrade RAM if you go for the 8700K or 9900K either on the Z370 or Z390 as it can only take DDR4...DDR4 3200 is the sweet spot and even 3000 is fine though there is hardly any difference in price...so go for the highest speed at the best price...

Personally, you can't go wrong with the 8700K as it is tremendously fast, overclocks extremely well and will more than last the next 3 to 4 years...
 
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